I laucnched DLX and SLS linux on my PSP. I guess someone ported a x86 emulator to the PSP, so I'm damn well happy.

This has been out for nearly 2 years now, and is practically useless >.>

I think it's absolutely hilarious that you put Linux on a PSP.

It's like... NO GAMES SQUARED.

roflroflrofl

If this makes you happy you should probably kill yourself.

lmao, i can't believe everyone hates the psp so much.

Um, lets see, theres MGS1, FF VII, and every other PS1 game EVER made available.

And what about MGS: PO? The PSP is doing fine, the DS, in my opinion, after owning BOTH systems, is more of a kiddie plaything, while the PSP has a whole lot more use. Music, video, internet capability, unzipping utilities, free games and utilities, I mean come on here people. Once you get a keyboard, it's pretty much a handheld computer, even without linux or windows.

Except for you know, like most of the games for DS being more fun to play and the DS outselling PSP that post almost made sense.

I know that, and it's a sad statistic.

I'd still rather have a system I can write programs for and tinker with and do stuff, then be stuck with a bulky hadheld that had to be remade.

Project linuxbox2?

Project port-any-c/c++-code to the PSP.

Sorry, but there's plenty of games on the PSP (nowadays). MGS: Portable Ops, Daxter, the new Ratchet and Clank, and the Silent Hill sequel coming out shortly are enough to make me want to get one again :|

i have portable ops, its a good game. if developers would actually do something other than port we would see more good games. oh and btw the psp could smoke your pc, tiberium

While the PSP's game library may still be lacking (there are a few stellar titles: MGS:PO, Lumines, etc. IMO the EA Sports games for PSP are very well done) the homebrew potential annihilates the DS imo. PSP can pretty much emulate every major console from 1985 (NES) to the GBA(2002?)/PSX. It's absolutely amazing for retro-gaming with over a decade of available games.

It can run excellent homebrew games (C/C++, LUA) and there is a decent amount of useful apps (a very nice Wifi sniffer is my favorite). It can also play relatively high resolution video that looks AWESOME on the sizeable PSP screen. 24/Dexter on the go ==

Homebrew on the DS is decent, but apparently no fullspeed emulation for GBA and of course nothing even close to PSX fullspeed. DS homebrew also requires expensive hardware flashcarts, putting it basically in the same price category as the PSP.

So, yeah, if you discount homebrew (which is basically what this thread is about) then maybe DS > PSP, but an unlocked PSP's game/software/media library puts the DS to shame. It's truly a gaming powerhouse in your pocket.

Personally I don't take sales into consideration when I evaluate a game or gaming device, but PSP games and sales did very well in January/February. Still below the DS but the DS isn't selling ridiculous amounts like it was during Christmas season.

a java port is currently on the way. sun supports it, too.

.... How?

I've been waiting for the Playstation store to release the old PS1 games such as FFVII

What the PSP has:

A. Tons of homebrew. It can emulate everything from Atari to GBA with near-perfection. PS1 games are emulated now and they run great. And there's an N64 emulator that in the next couple months will be running at great speeds (right now Mario 64 is just barely playable, but it's only a couple months in development)
B. Aside from the emulators, there is also a lot of custom games, including one called "SnakeSP". If you have a PSP, I highly recommend you get that game, it's VERY good looking, free, and fun.
C. There is also a ton of customization. Just about everything in the PSP's XMB has been hacked, including fonts, waves, wallpapers, icons, gameboots, removal of the PSP logo, etc.
D. There is now custom firmware which allows people to play games on their terms, as well as add other features such as playing your MP3s ingame, taking screenshots, and turning on USB whenever.
E. There is a lot of "functional" homebrew, such as IR Remote software, VNC, links web browser, text/pdf readers, manga readers, wifi sniffers, FTP/HTTP servers, shoutcast internet radio players, streaming video players, various audio/music related software, etc.
F. It plays MP3s, WMAs, ATRAC3/plus, AVC (h264) video, pictures, and more. It has GPS capabilities, and has (admittedly low-quality) a camera addon.
G. It still has quite a bit of fun and excellent games, including the ultimate puzzle game since Tetris: Lumines. I swear to God I would buy a PSP just for that game alone. Wipeout (a new one is coming soon), Ridge Racer, Lumines, Every Extend Extra, MGS, plus more I want to get.

Not to mention it's one of the only handhelds in the history of the gameboy to actually hold its own in the market. I won't argue that the DS has a much greater market share, but to say the PSP hasn't made an influence, or at least gave the DS a run for it's money? You'd be lying to yourself.

It pretty much comes down to the DS being strictly a gaming device, while the PSP is an all-around entertainment device, which I feel fills an empty void in mobile entertainment. It does everything, and it does it all well.

Actually the PSP isn't giving the DS a run for it's money. The DS sells more than three times the amount of systems that the PSP sells. Nintendo isn't losing any sleep over the PSP.

I hate PSP vs DS debates.

Just get what suits you.

?? Did I get Jon'C wrong? He said no games when you put linux on it, didnd't he??

But I heard there is ScummVM for it, is that true?? Does that need linux?

my DS is sweet.

The PSP has 24.70 million units worldwide, while the DS has 36.8 million. Yes, the DS is winning and I am not saying it will lose. I am saying that it's put a much bigger fight into the handheld market than anything that's come before it. To say that Nintendo isn't worried about the PSP at all would be silly.




Yes, ScummVM is on the PSP, without Linux.

I've owned both. Sold my PSP because I was in dire need of money. I have a DS now and I love it. I loved my PSP too when I had it. In my opinion, they are both awesome gaming devices with their own pro's and con's. I do still wish I had my PSP. All the homebrew stuff you could do was just awesome. I have been tempted to try DS homebrew but I am not about for fork out $130 or whatever it costs for that special USB DS card.

Hardware sales only tell part of the story. As far as I know, software sales of the PSP have been falling drastically behind those of the DS. PSP Fanboy ran a story on this recently. In December, U.S. software sales for the DS were 5 million. U.S. software sales for the PSP were 1 million. Even the DS's larger userbase can not even come close to accounting for this dramatic difference. The $15 additional cost of PSP games certainly is a factor, but the difference between the two figures is nonetheless pretty darn huge. I think the PSP's multimedia and homebrew features might be both it's greatest strength as well as its greatest weakness: if people are not buying enough games across the board and commercially successful titles are few and far between, that might decrease software support for the system over time.

Let me get this straight. Homebrewing on the PSP has become such an "advantage" over the DS, yet it is something that Sony, the creator of the PSP, didn't want happening. I find that funny.

The people who actually made the PSP wanted homebrew to happen; the only people at Sony who don't want PSP homebrew are the same incompetent ****s who brought you Bluray and rootkits. There are menu items built into the firmware to allow it and Japanese launch PSPs (Firmware 1.0) allowed it.

That's actually why I bought one: because the homebrew prospects were so promising. Then I realized that I don't really care about writing software for a handheld. Or replaying all of the great opensource classics on a little piece of junk when I have a computer 80 times more powerful.


You can also run homebrew on the DS, actually, and it involves about the same amount of work as it does on a 2.0+ PSP.

Actually no, it takes me 10 minutes to set up homebrew on any PSP with 3.03- firmware, while for the DS, you would have to flash and rewrite the bios, and buy many things offline. For the PSP it's free.

Plus, why waste time writing software for the DS, it has limited homebrew capability, tiny screens, and the wifi (last time I checked) hasn't been cracked.

Also:

If you want FFIIV on your PSP, you'll have to downgrade to 1.5(possible in 3.03 if you have an origional GTA: LCS), and re-upgrade to the "3.03 OE-C" custom firmware by DarK_AleX. This unlocks all features of the 3.03 upgrade while still having homebrew capabilities. Along with the OE files, theres a PSP ISO converter named Popstation(Not the handheld PSP clone), and you can convert ANY PS1 game to the PSP eboot format. (I'm not sure how multi-disc games work, but I'm sure it's possible).

I didn't realize you can do that much with the PSP. Because of games like Metal Gear Portable Ops and Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles, I'm tempted to purchase one.