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Cult believes Tupac Shakur was the modern reincarnation of Machiavelli
2007-03-15, 2:24 PM #1
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070315/ap_on_re_us/daughter_decapitated%3B_ylt%3DAiOq.BW_MlgXF5Da8aoURVxvzwcF

Well, duh; Machievelli believed any evil action can be justified if in the best nature of the state and it's populace, an "ends justify the means" interpretation of politics, and stately procedure, while tupac belived in the idea of "busting caps in asses", a "*** justify the caps" interpretation. You could very easily draw the parallels and join a cult that thinks you should kill your child because Tupac believes it's the devil.

Duh.
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2007-03-15, 2:25 PM #2
you forgot the poll!

Quote:
(4:16:32 PM) fishstickz: Spann's father, Gary Spann, told The Sacramento Bee in 2005 his daughter routinely called the girl a "devil child," and she belonged to a cult that worshipped the late rapper Tupac Shakur as the reincarnation of the 16th century political philosopher Machiavelli.
(4:16:33 PM) fishstickz: what
(4:16:33 PM) fishstickz: the
(4:16:34 PM) fishstickz: ****
(4:16:46 PM) Anovis: that doesn't make sense
(4:17:45 PM) Genki: O_o
(4:18:06 PM) fishstickz: I don't know
(4:18:14 PM) fishstickz: Tupac is kind of like machiavelli
(4:18:40 PM) Anovis: no
(4:18:42 PM) Anovis: no he's not
(4:19:51 PM) fishstickz: I mean, Machievelli believed any evil action can be justified if in the best nature of the state and it's populace, an "ends justify the means" interpretation of politics
(4:20:00 PM) fishstickz: and Tupac believed in "busting caps in asses"
(4:20:06 PM) Anovis: that's NOTHING like it :P
(4:20:11 PM) fishstickz: YA HUH
(4:20:32 PM) fishstickz: I don't know
(4:20:37 PM) Anovis: >.>
(4:20:38 PM) fishstickz: I don't know much about tupac
(4:20:41 PM) Anovis: this deserves a thread
(4:20:45 PM) fishstickz: Agreed
(4:20:48 PM) fishstickz: DIBS
(4:22:01 PM) Anovis: okay
(4:24:17 PM) fishstickz: posted
2007-03-15, 2:52 PM #3
Damn you Americans are nuts.

But this is one case where I don't like doing the usual DYAAN shtick and actually express my disgust with people like that. Doing something like that and then trying to blame it on some higher thing... yuck.
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2007-03-15, 2:56 PM #4
This idea is at least as old as the number of years since Pac's death ... Pac himself was doing the whole Machiavelli thing
一个大西瓜
2007-03-15, 3:20 PM #5
Tupac didn't "believe" in "busting caps in asses". While the parallels are stupid, Tupac didn't like gangbanging, but realized that in the ghetto it was a neccessity to live (or, even if not a neccessity, something that facilitated a MUCH easier life). Later on, after joining Death Row (****ing Suge) his raps turned more "gangster" only because he was in contract with Suge Knight to pose that image for the label.

That said, I think the idea is stupid, even though he did indeed call himself "Makavelli" (not because he couldn't spell Machiavelli, before you comment on that) and did hold a couple of the same principles, they weren't much alike.
D E A T H
2007-03-15, 3:21 PM #6
I liked Tupac more than Machiavelli.

More style. Better poetry.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2007-03-15, 3:21 PM #7
Dude. It was a joke.
"If you watch television news, you will know less about the world than if you just drink gin straight out of the bottle."
--Garrison Keillor
2007-03-15, 3:28 PM #8
Originally posted by fishstickz:
Dude. It was a joke.

Dude, it was a bad one.
D E A T H
2007-03-15, 3:50 PM #9
[quote=Dj Yoshi]Tupac didn't like gangbanging, but realized that in the ghetto it was a neccessity to live...[/quote]

LOL.
幻術
2007-03-15, 3:54 PM #10
Originally posted by Koobie:
LOL.


Dude it was a joke.

Actually, sadly, it isn't.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2007-03-15, 4:17 PM #11
TUPAC SAID BAD WORDS OMGGAODZ

2007-03-15, 5:18 PM #12
Meh...

Patton believed he was reincarnated...several times over.
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2007-03-15, 5:40 PM #13
Ummmm...

I feel sorry for the poor girl who was killed? All jokes aside, that's a nasty way to go.
Why do the heathens rage behind the firehouse?
2007-03-15, 6:44 PM #14
I don't get the point of the cult. Even if Tupac was a reincarnation of Machiavelli, that's no reason to worship him.
:master::master::master:
2007-03-15, 7:29 PM #15
Originally posted by Koobie:
LOL.


Actually, it's true. TuPac's early rap was very much a social critique of the ghetto, and he came down on it pretty hard. These early albums were critically acclaimed by lots of different people in the entertainment industry. His later albums were gangsta rap and were his top selling albums.
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