All ye come to discuss your experiences with depression, social anxiety, and paranoia, or indeed any mental issues (drug induced included). I'm interested to hear what others think and feel about it!



Myself, after 2 bad weeks of going increasing bizarre and emotionally unstable, i was taken to hospital for a few hours today, talked to by a doctor, (after my local gp got me driven there by free charge taxi, very nice of them). spent 5 hours there, 2 sessions of 1 hour talks with the resident psychologist and an another doctor.

Already diagnosed with moderate bi polar depression, now seems to include some serious social anxiety and paranoia. :saddowns: I call it, being crazy, but it seems this has a technical term.:psyduck:

So back on anti depressants I go. They decided councilling would do little or no good, since it had no effect last time.

Here's hoping I can still do lots of modding until i re-adjust.

So who else has such experience? Any older massassians who had it in their 20's, did it get better with age? I'm 23 now, dont wanna be like this forever.

Thanks in advance.

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I had a lot of depression/anxiety for several years... I'm starting to get more and more beyond that and beginning to be content with my life.

The right woman can change a lot for you.

My friend's brother's totally changed from extreme emo <all white make up and eyeliner> to preppy, popular Hollister guy after getting a girlfriend.
Either she threatened to torture him or maybe she really changed him, who knows but he did change.

Well, Ruthy, at least you know you're "crazy" otherwise it wouldn't be good.

woohoo, i've got a similar head**** to you!

i'm alright, i divide my time between being drunk and suicidal... it could be worse.

After I got a girlfriend I was happy for a while... after I moved in with her, not so much... but things are getting better.

I'm diagnosed bipolar I with borderline tendencies (really extreme mood swings and self mutilation). Recently I stayed for a week in a hospital psych unit here until I was no longer a danger to myself and the meds were stabilized. I'm on an antipsychotic right now because of rapid cycling and mixed episodes (both extremely serious bipolar states) but will probably downgrade to a mood stabilizer (something like lithium) fairly soon.

Have they talked to you about being on a mood stabilizer instead of antidepressants? If you really are bipolar, the antidepressants can trigger a manic episode.

It supposedly gets easier with time. My dad is bipolar (I just found out recently) and he seems to get by OK and doesn't let it stop him from achieving his goals (he speaks 4 languages, has 2 masters and a doctorate, works ER, has a book published, and oversees the medical components of several local fire stations). You can't let it run your life.

Take a long vacation and get away from the things that are causing you depression/anxiety for a while. You'll come back with your head on straight.

It's nice to see people being understanding/helpful in this thread. So many people these days just write you off with a "stfu whiny emoface".

Good luck with that.

**** the naysayers 'cause they don't mean a thing

Best of luck to you, man (all of you, actually)!

Losing the right woman is what triggered this.



Bloody females.

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only occasionally

I'm really sorry to hear that though. <3!!

Maybe it's because these problems all suck.

I seriously fail to see how all of the sudden everyone is so ****ed in the head. Humanity made it awfuly far without things like this being huge problems, and a HELL of alot farther without anti-depressants. So really, I'm calling bull**** on MOST (Not all, learn to read) of it.


I could probably go into some pretty great detail about how my life sucks, but I don't. I do offer tidbits, and in the past when I was younger I was pretty open about some of the stuff that goes on. But really, I don't need or want the attention from it. And I don't let it change who I am.

And dude, let me tell you. If this were a pissing contest I'd drown most of you whiney ****s. Atleast I recognize and cope with the fact that some of it is my fault, alot of it isn't, AND I MOVE THE **** ON WITH LIFE.

So when I tell you yout problems aren't that big of a deal, and that you need to get over them and stop being /wrists, maybe you'll understand why a little better.

well timed rob.

I dont know why depression is so common now, you're right, we;ve gotten this far till now, why all the sudden problems? Half the problem is knowing what it is. In the old days, there was no such thing as depression, they called it lazy or boring.

All i know is, my situation is pretty much lose/lose. Most of it is my fault. Some of it isnt. The problem is, even knowing that, if you suffer depression, you dont move on with lfe, cos your brain chemistry is screwed, and thus cant deal with life in the same way as everyone else.

I dont want this, i dont want "mopey goth attention seeking moodiness".

I tried to be like everyone else, and be happy, and drink, and pull in a club, and be socially confident.
But i failed.:argh:

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Okay.

This is what I hear.

Wahh wahh wahh whahhh excuses excuses excuses wahh wahh wahh wahhh.


If it's so ****ing bad, why don't you off yourself? AHA. Thats because it isn't that bad. THINK ABOUT THAT.

You're like ****ing 20 years old. Step up to the plate. The world isn't all ****ing sunshine and happiness. It's mostly farts and moldy bread. GET USED TO IT.

Be ****ing happy and amazed you have food to eat, clothes to wear, and a roof over your head.

You're gonna make a great father one day

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I think the number one problem is that people aren't chemically inbalanced or broke, and can't play it dumb and act like treatment and counciling is supposed to magically fix you. People aren't going to get better unless they want to. If you don't want to get better, and then wonder why treatments don't work, then you've got the thinking problem right there.

Just try to find where your thinking goes wrong, and fix it.

"Man life suck-" stop there. Lots of people have it worse, lots of people have it better. IF life sucks, make it better. Making it worse and saying life sucks is just complaining.
"Well, my dog died and my girlfriend left me." There are pounds and pubs for those problems. Suicide and Self-loathing are not the solvency.

I honestly think it's people's broke down egoes and then their inability to logically rationalize obvious courses of action that gets people in depressions. Chemical imbalances are SIDE EFFECTS of these methods of thinking, not the cause.

PS: Robs pretty much right, just tactless.

Humanity also made it awfully far without treatments for cancer, heart disease, antibiotics or treatments for thousands of other ailments. Seriously, you keep making this argument, and I have a hard time believing you're dumb enough to not see the flaws in it.


:tomcruise:

Care to back that up? Because the opposite has years of peer-reviewed medical research to back it up. You are ignoring the facts in favor of your ignorant preconceptions.


That's the idea behind counseling. It's not easy to do it yourself.


If it was a simple matter of wanting to be better, it wouldn't be a problem.


No, it goes both ways. This Wikipedia article is very comprehensive and also cites its sources. Where are yours?

DEE DEE DEE.

Yeah, people die and get sick. DURR.

But seriously. You don't read about ancient rome and see all this **** about WELL THERE WAS A MASSIVE EPIC DEPRESSION REGRESSION AND PEOPLE LIKE DIDN'T GIVE A **** AND COMMIT SUICIDE AT AN ALARMING RATE.

Even slaves weren't known as much to commit suicide. And being a slave must be some seriously hella depressing **** to go through.

That line of thought will leave you in your 20s, single, living with your parents and working a lame job at UPS. Oh wait...

Which proves what, exactly? I don't even know where suicide even came into this.

If you seem to think that suicide rates have changed over time or are somehow related to the current discussion, you should probably back up your claims.

But atleast I'm not a quiverring "depressed" sissy that needs happy pills to get on with my painfuly average and normal life.

That site doesn't disagree with me at all. And sorry I didn't butter up my post for you:

"We should help young people because they weren't taught how to handle situations logically, so they resort to emotions which don't help very much. That's hard to handle for teens, and we should try to find where their thinking goes wrong, so we can help them understand why wanting to be emotionally stable, and be logically able to deal with life's problems is a good and rewarding thing."

My main point was medicating and applying "mental treatment" is only going to temporarily solve the problem. It's like removing spyware off of your dad's machine every 3 weeks without telling him how to get porn without spyware. Medication and fandangled medical prognosis isn't enough.

Mental treatment being, what, exactly? It seems to me you may have a misunderstanding of exactly what modern treatments are.

I don't know the word for it. The difference between counciling and psyco-babble and talking about our feelings. Counciling where you take a kid out and bring them to habitat for humanity and show them what productivity is. You help them understand how to handle their personal situations instead of trying to diagnose and "fix" the generic brain problem.

You teach a man to fish instead of giving him a fish, amirite?

Man this got ugly real fast.

I see both sides of the arguement.

My Doctor was all too happy to offer me happy pills, cos its the easy option for her.

I know how to improve my situation, but with any luck, after a month of citalopram, i'll have the confidence to be more pro-active to taht end.

I'm speaking from experience. I was put on citalopram once before, and after a month i went from self mutilating unstable depressed weirdo, to a happier social amusing more active weirdo.

I prefered being the latter.

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not that easy buddo... i just realised that leeching from the system before I build up enough confidence to kill myself is easier.

I generalized. I also didn't say it was easy. I take it back if that was implied. I just don't think our current methods do any good. It's the way we bring kids up that screws them up, not initial chemcial inbalances.

Oh no, they got a pill for that now!

That's basically what psychotherapy is. Medication is meant to treat physical symptoms. The only time depression should be treated with only medication is in the case of something like dysthymia which is inherently physical.

I don't know where you're getting these ideas from, but no doctor worth his salt would ever recommend medical treatment without corresponding, long term psychotherapy as a treatment for depression. Hell, even my psychiatrists at the Cleveland Clinic push psychotherapy over medication. They are very reluctant to make changes in medication.


How do you know current methods don't work? Seriously, that's a very :downs: statement. You are in no way qualified to judge that current treatments don't work.


Chemical imbalances affect mood and related physical properties (sleep, etc), which in turn affect thought patterns, but they don't "screw you up" in the sense that you are thinking.

anti depressants are awesome for drinking with though.

When confronted with a lonely and pointless existence, I turned to rum. I drank (am drinking) a lot of it, and I wouldn't recommend it for anyone. That is all.

i've been downing tequila recently but its not the best really.

as for drinking with anti depresants spe..., is like stupidity... and beyond

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We wuv you Ruthy!

<3

I go through the same thing ocasionally. I'm not taking any medication for it though. So sorry I cant really give you any advice.

I've been on anti-depressants for a while. My depression and social anxiety comes mainly as a result of a chronic illness. With the right meds, some decent psychotherapy and plenty of exercise you can see some good improvements.

I recall you've posted similar threads in the post and you always seem to be going on and off your medication. It may be that you just need to stick with one for a longer period of time (even indefinetly). It's not a good idea to come off the pills when you're feeling good, because it's the pills that are making you feel better.

It can help if you have a mate to talk to about these things, preferably one who understands the difference between being depressed and having depression. For the audience, being depressed is something you can just snap out of. Having depression (clinical) is something else entirely, it's an illness the same way as diabetes or multiple sclerosis.

It does get better if you manage it properly. You need to stick to your meds, there's no need to be embarrassed or feel lessened by the fact you're taking medication for it. Diabetics don't feel guilty about taking insulin and you shouldn't feel bad about needing medication either.

Whether or not you tell people is up to you, I never do, because it's nobody's business and I couldn't be bothered spending the time to explain it like Emon is doing. Cutting out a lot of the alcohol is going to help too. Exercise is also an underused therapy. Just start slow and work up to it, although when you are depressed it can be hard to motivate yourself to do it. Don't worry about it, just do what you can, when you can and try your best to work it into a routine.

After a few days of taking 20mg again, the side effects are amusing and it helps pass the time.

Havent spun out much, feel a little weird.

There's a serious problem though.

I've been taking Sumatriptan for migraine attacks. Those little tablets have saved my life, and made me able to function.

But Sumatriptan is VERY dangerous to take while on antidepressants.
So if i get a migraine, i'm screwed

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You should probably like, you know, go have a catscan if you haven't had one already.


Bwahahaha. I had one but there was nothing wrong, SO MY MIGRAINES GO UNEXPLAINED.