What do you know about this respect campaign?

I just heard about it and I've been looking over it. The initial reason I visited was because I heard they were taking entire families(I think it was 9,000 last year) and taking them to "respect camps", where they were not let out until they were deemed socially acceptable and are no longer "anti-social".

Obviously it's going to be harder to find things on the site if they are controversial because they might not be exactly forth right. However, from just the site I've looked at, there are quite a few "violations" that I would imagine are already illegal. The thing I am bothered by are the things like "Neighbor Nuisance". I read it and it is so vague that it just screams to be used to violate human rights all over the place.

These very minor violations such as begging and neighbor nuisance look like they could even be subject to thousands of pounds in fines and even suspended prison terms.

I hope this is just alarmism and there isn't anything to this, but if it's true....then wtf?

edit: One of the examples of the dogdy vagueness I see on the site. "We will take a new approach to tackle the behaviour of ‘problem families’ by challenging them to accept support to change their behaviour, backed up by enforcement measures. In 2006, a network of intensive family support schemes will be launched that target these challenging families."

....wtf does "intensive family support schemes" mean?

edit2: Again, perhaps I'm thinking shallowly, but this is another excerpt from their site:

"The Respect Squad is a team of troubleshooters who can be called in to help local agencies tackle anti-social behaviour incidents causing misery to local communities up and down the country.

The Respect Task Force will ensure that there is no let up in tackling anti-social behaviour, until every community in every part of the country gets a swift and effective response to their problem. The Respect Squad will help with this by accelerating action in cases where police and local authorities need extra support, or where severe cases are going unchecked."

Yeah, that makes me just a little nervous...

"Putting Neighbour back into Neighbourhood"

More like putting the Romance back in Necromancy.

Neveh hoid of it.

But you might be interested in this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbo

I was about to post the same thing as Baconfish. Some of the things ASBOs are handed out for are silly. I'll admit that I haven't done a large amount of research into the subject, but they just seem like a knee-jerk reaction like ADHD. "Oh, this young person is getting into trouble at school! ADHD!", "Oh, this young person has been in trouble with the law! ASBO!"

Thing is its basically like a badge of honour to the folk that should have been strangled at birth.

We need larger prisons.

Crazy Brits

Kieran - you needn't worry about the human rights of ****ing annoying neighbours being violated because there are no people who uphold those 'laws'. The people with ASBOs are never prosecuted for breaking them and the police are now not responsible for asking noisy neighbours to keep quiet (that's now the job of your local council who only keep office hours...).

There was a massive under-age birthday party at the street that backs onto our flat a few months ago - it was a sunday night, we were both up for work at 6 and 6:30 respectively and this party was stil in full drunken swing at 3am. We called the police who politely told us that dealing with this was no longer their remit and to call the council. The number they gave us was for a bloody answering machine.

Those laws fon't count for rat****.

Think of it as the idea of people being allowed to do whatever they want as long as they don't harm anyone else in the process.

I'm not sure whether it's a good idea, half of me thinks "well, these people did bring it upon themselves) but the other half of me thinks "what right does the government have to interfere in this?" It's a complicated issue, the issue of anti-social behaviour has to be addressed somehow but nobody has really come up with a good solution.

They just need a dope slap squad.

A historian's dream

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/interactive/timelines/british/index.shtml

(since we're on topic about British and I'm too lazy to make a thread.)

Clearly, Brits don't want civil rights.

Nah, we just don't want people packing near our castles.

The whole thing about 'Respect' that its a government programme policy tack that deals with the 'Yob Culture' that exists here in Britian. And no it does not work at all. A joke put it that way. Don't think I need to say anymore.

Thats my view anway.

people in camps you say?

it isnt a permanent solution but it'll work for a while.

I dont like it. Things like this make me nervous.