http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/06/01/kevorkian.release.ap/index.html

Dr. Death is out, although it has been said he doesn't have much time to live due to Hepatitis. Interestingly, I didn't know this fact (from the article):


I thought such a practice (basically assisted-suicide?) was illegal in all states.

Yeah, personally I don't really care. But I guess some people would.

I wonder what the oregan death rate is like.

...I'm assuming 100%, just like everywhere.

bagenius

That's Roach for ya.

As his hepatitis progresses, I wonder if he will terminate his own life.

Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't imagine his decision would be weighed less than anyone else who has a similar problem.

I'm glad he got released early, he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Wow, I didn't image we'd agree on that, Kuat.

Damn tootin'

Dr. Kevorkian thing was the first time I can really remember myself as a youngster thinking very rationally "these people chose to do this. It is an agreement he makes with them. They are the ones that in the end have to push the button". For all of his cases, if I remember correctly, it was up to the person to push the button / syringe or whatever. Only once I think did he actually perform the action.

There's a few reasons I agree with what Kevorkian aimed to do, and indeed could write some long and lengthy boring post, but it boils down to essentially what mscbuck said. Those individuals make a clear decision to take their own lives. Except that last case, where he actually did the final act himself. Which was, of course, still the guy's decision, just not as blindingly clear cut as the others (in that maybe he wouldn't have actually went through with it if he had full control himself).

Terminally ill patients who basically have their future and freedom stripped away should have a right to end their existence. It can be seen as cruel to force them to live through the horror that accompanies progression of a disease, or continued existence as helplessly disabled. Hell, I'm an atheist and I think this life is our one and only chance we get, but I'd rather end the journey on a relatively high note than wasting away with bed sores the size of basketballs.

You know, "Dr. Death" is much more appropriate with that guy who intentionally gave his patients who most likely didn't want to die false amounts of medicine... I think he was from the UK for something.

Silly Americans and their euthanasia dilemma.

And that right there is why I was surprised; for some reason, I thought you were a christian.

Good gravy, no! And Christianity of all the religions! Where... where did I go wrong?!

I was wondering why you thought it was strange we'd agree.

So...

Why in the name of anything did you think that?! (You don't have to answer that, heh).

I'm dangerously close to being a militant atheist, in fact. I won't go further (as no one likes religious flamewars), but to me religion is the bane of humanity.

yeah, I can remember from a very young age being utterly baffled by the way people think that if a pet has a debilitating and/or terminal illness, the only humane thing to do is to have it put down, and yet humans in the same situation are supposed to suffer through it. Especially considering humans are usually able to communicate to others that they are in pain and wish to die.

but perhaps it's just a lack of religion thing

I am pro-death.

We know your national socialist tendencies, Eugenia. I mean, Vinny.

Harold Shipman?

You people make me

I'd take that as a compliment, Isuwen.

You take it however you want, that doesn't change how I meant it.

That's what I was thinking.

BUT GUYS.

TERRI SCHIAVO WAS ALIVE!

THE BALLOONS MOVED! IT'S HER COMMUNICATING HER WILL TO LIVE!

Oh wait, sorry.

I feel horrible that Kevorkian ever got sent to prison. Now the man is going to suffer ridicule and prodding surrounding his ever progressing and terminal illness. The poor guy should be spared that irony.

Oh noes, we have our own belief structures...

YE GODS!

PS-Is a man sodomizing a woman a crime punishable by death in your world?

PS, he's asking if you think anything other than traditional intercourse is punishable by death.


AKA, if Angelina Jolie gives you a blowjob are you going to stone her to death.

Is there some connection between getting a blowjob from Angeline Jolie and euthanasia that I'm not seeing?

I marvel at the twisted logic that led to this reply.

Is the woman consenting?

And, my world? If you are trying to imply things, please say them outright.

Oh god i can sense the epicness sturring!
[Alos just incase anyone cares (you don't) im pro death]

Yes, one should not beat around the bush using emotions and vague posts.

In honor of this I'll be direct: Do you have a point? If so, make it.

You're only agreeing with the majority in hope that we'll like you.

Mission failed.

Point is, you seem so horrified at the fact that people believe that unreasonable amounts of physical suffering which has no remedy, should not be something people are forced to endure against their will.

However, we are equally horrified at many of your warped beliefs. Oh wait, I'm warped, not you. (Okay ****ers, let's ignore the fact that I AM actually warped) It's a relative thing. My reference to non traditional sex was going to prove a point about the difference of our worldviews, but I think I mostly said it because that what was on my mind. heh.

You see, I learned the wonderful tactic of not addressing an argument, but rather the person's worldview from Massassi. Politicians use it daily. I bet most senators are lurkers here too.

But my point, however lost it may have been in my ramblings about killing old people and anal sex, is that YOU, my friend, seem to have a problem with my worldview. But I have a problem with yours too, so instead of debating wether Agnosticism or Christi"tao"muslimbuddhibohemianism is the correct way to look at the world, let's talk about wether Dr. Kevorkian should have gone to jail, according the the laws and statutes of our country, not wether my habit of sodomy with girls (which is representative of all that you seem to ) is a sin in your worldview of Christi"tao"muslimbuddhibohemianism.

And why Angeline (sic) Jolie? haha fanboy

Also, we can go into people who commit suicide when they are emo and they should be allowed to do that blah blah blah, but they are often said to not be in a proper state of mind. IIRC, "Dr. Death" here, who was a professional, made a point of making sure that the patients were lucid enough to consent. Just thought I'd nip that retarded argument in the bud before someone made it.

EDIT:I really don't know if I got my point through at any point in that post.

Because Angelina Jolie has beautiful lucious lips. Ahem.

Everyone should be allowed to decide their own death. Obviously if a person is making their descision as a result of mental illness - such as depression - then as much help as possible should be given to help them... I don't know how to word this, but "be happy and not off themselves."

But if they're dieing of a terminal illness, of which the end result is going to be a long and painful death, why shouldn't they be allowed to spare themselves from it? Or even if the result wasn't death - perhaps they've been in a car accident and broke their neck. I wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life as a quadriplegic.

I await the "but it was god's will, :downswords:" argument.