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The future of high definition
2007-07-15, 7:43 PM #1
A digital camera known as Red One is capable of recording resolutions of 4520 x 2540. Peter Jackson has recently tested the camera by filming a short WWI movie known as Crossing the Line. You can see some photos here. Pretty amazing how fast technology is progressing isn't it? I wonder how long it will take before we see TVs capable of producing that resolution.
2007-07-15, 7:54 PM #2
Dayyummm....'tis a nice camera.
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2007-07-15, 7:58 PM #3
Um... what?
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2007-07-15, 8:29 PM #4
Oh, that's nothing. You should see the guy with the 2 GP camera.

Yes, 2 Gigapixels. He took the surveillance camera from an old RB-60 (I think that's the one, it's the British spy plane that went to FL600 for pics), worked up his own lensing scheme, and it actually works as a scenery camera. Does full wall montages where, if you take a magnifying glass to it, you can make out detail.

And before anybody shouts at me, yes, that looks like an awesome camera, I just thought the guy I mentioned above is awesome too.
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2007-07-15, 8:39 PM #5
Imagine, in the future, cellphone will record 1.3 gigapixels.

You'll be able to zoom in on the hair follicles on your arm from a distance.
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2007-07-15, 8:44 PM #6
Yeah! Red One!

I went to NAB this past year and got to see the video and the actual cameras. The line was really long to get into the mini-theater they had set up, but it was totally worth it.

The coolest thing about Jackson's video is that it was done with a prototype, I think named "Boris." (They had another one named Natasha.) And the crazy thing is that these prototypes only had a start/stop button.

They were extremely protective over the film too. Only like 20-30 people were allowed in the theater at a time, and they repeatedly said that if anyone even thought about pulling out a recording device, they would have them ejected from NAB all together.

The greatest thing about The Red One is how low it'll be priced. For a good HD film camera you really pretty much have to have a Hollywood budget for it to be comfortable. But this, HD DIGITAL camera priced just around 17 grand to get better-than-film is incredible. So incredible, that when people were first finding out about it, they thought it was like a hoax or someone's wishful thinking.

There was only about 2 things as or more incredible at NAB:
ULTA high definition, and an RV wired with a complete professional HD editing bay with near 30 TERAbytes of storage space.
2007-07-15, 9:05 PM #7
Originally posted by KyleKatarn7:
Oh, that's nothing. You should see the guy with the 2 GP camera.

Yes, 2 Gigapixels. He took the surveillance camera from an old RB-60 (I think that's the one, it's the British spy plane that went to FL600 for pics), worked up his own lensing scheme, and it actually works as a scenery camera. Does full wall montages where, if you take a magnifying glass to it, you can make out detail.

And before anybody shouts at me, yes, that looks like an awesome camera, I just thought the guy I mentioned above is awesome too.


Is that video or still photos?
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2007-07-15, 9:09 PM #8
No, it's still.

People have done multi-gigapixel photos just by merging smaller photos taken on a tripod setup.
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2007-07-15, 9:19 PM #9
Originally posted by Emon:
No, it's still.

People have done multi-gigapixel photos just by merging smaller photos taken on a tripod setup.


Unless I'm completely missing something, that makes it a completely different animal and is, as such, somewhat irrelevant to the topic at hand? :P
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2007-07-16, 12:30 AM #10
I dont remember where i saw it but some old dude has a camera he built that takes huge res photos, it was neat because once your download one (like 200mb) you can zoom in far on things (he took a picture off a cliff towards a city) and they all zoom perfectly clear... l
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2007-07-16, 3:16 AM #11
Originally posted by KOP_AoEJedi:
I dont remember where i saw it but some old dude has a camera he built that takes huge res photos, it was neat because once your download one (like 200mb) you can zoom in far on things (he took a picture off a cliff towards a city) and they all zoom perfectly clear... l


Ooooo I like the sound of that...!
2007-07-16, 4:25 AM #12
Megapixels don't really mean much. :/
2007-07-16, 4:32 AM #13
Wasn't it decided that 1080p is already the high end of what the eye can discern for the average home TV?
2007-07-16, 6:20 AM #14
damnit all this thread did is make me want to see more WW1 movies made... and the german MG pic is possibly going to be my new desktop
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2007-07-16, 9:57 AM #15
Yeah the Red One is awesome. I read somewhere that it was designed with the purpose of the full resolution image being the same clarity of a 1080p image on a 52" or so television, but only on a theatre screen. I think this is awesome.
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2007-07-16, 10:19 AM #16
Still ain't impressed.
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2007-07-16, 12:09 PM #17
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
Wasn't it decided that 1080p is already the high end of what the eye can discern for the average home TV?

1080p is nowhere near the limit of human vision, but is close to the limit of HD displays.
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2007-07-16, 3:05 PM #18
Call me when they can take video in UHDV

7,680 × 4,320 ah yeah
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2007-07-16, 3:30 PM #19
Psh, call ME when they have these in consumer PCs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein-coated_disc
2007-07-16, 3:36 PM #20
Originally posted by kyle90:
Call me when they can take video in UHDV

7,680 × 4,320 ah yeah


oh come on kyle, we'll call you and say "hey check out this UHDV" and what will you say? "call me when they can do it in <insert new technology here> LOL"
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2007-07-16, 7:49 PM #21
The Ultra High exhibition had a new crazy sound system too. While I was watching it someone in the audience gave out a "whoo!" and it was a football part so I thought someone was calling out for their team, and I got all ticked until I realized it was the video. :O
2007-07-16, 9:16 PM #22
Pfsh, not impressed. Call me when they're using holograms.

Or should I say message me through my cybernetic implant. [http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/2286/feijjmd8.gif]

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