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URGENT: Problems with a new computer build...
2007-07-17, 12:30 PM #1
I´ve done some google searching, and have found people with my problem, but none of the solutions listed work.

Computer:
Amd Athlon XP 2800
1024 mb DDR RAM
2 120GB Maxtor Diamond Plus 9 SATA
1 PC TVI Card
GeForce FXF 5200 256MB
ASUS KT600

The problem:
Last night, my computer froze, and I turned it off. Today I turned it on, and I get a BSOD after the Win XP Pro loading thing, and then a split second later, my computer restarts automaticaly.
I tried safe mode, and it loads up to mup.sys, then a few seconds later, it restarts.
Tried the recovery console from Win XP CD, it begins to load my first HDD, and just stays there, doing no thing.
Apparently, everyone with this problem has an SATA drive.

I need to URGENTLY get on this system by tomorrow. No, this system has nothing to do with my current mmo project or anything, all those files are backed up safely on my laptop. Thats where I´m currently posting from.

Can anyone help?

On a side note: The HDD was formated in NTFS, not FAT32, so thats not the problem here. I also had a dump of PICTURES on it, that are no longer on the camera memory, I can't reformat.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-07-17, 12:33 PM #2
You're going to have to reformat.

Not to mention your harddrive has a good chance of being ****ed period. That's what you get for using VIA chipsets on the socket A series (they sucked hard).
D E A T H
2007-07-17, 12:39 PM #3
How does the FBI recover data from formatted/damaged hard disks? I think that's what Massassians need to use.
Cordially,
Lord Tiberius Grismath
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2007-07-17, 12:40 PM #4
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi:
You're going to have to reformat.

Not to mention your harddrive has a good chance of being ****ed period. That's what you get for using VIA chipsets on the socket A series (they sucked hard).


Thats NOT the solution, the problem will present itself again, Win ME was on the drives BEFORE I formatted them, and it was working just fine, for like 6 months before I decided to use them. I'm switching from my old IDE drive, to these new SATAs. From what I gather, this is a dirver problem of some sort. I just learned that CHKDSK might do it, but in most cases it didn´t work, I'm going to go give it a try.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-07-17, 12:42 PM #5
How would reformatting not fix something that chkdsk could, unless you have bad sectors? (In which case your hard drives are dying as he said anyway)

And Yoshi is right, VIA chipsets blew.
2007-07-17, 12:44 PM #6
Good to know you know more than everyone who you asked for help from.

On that note, I hope you know how to fix it on your own.
D E A T H
2007-07-17, 12:45 PM #7
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
How would reformatting not fix something that chkdsk could, unless you have bad sectors? (In which case your hard drives are dying as he said anyway)

And Yoshi is right, VIA chipsets blew.


The problem will come again a few days after reformatting. These hard drives are semi new. Theres no reason for them to fail.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-07-17, 12:47 PM #8
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
The problem will come again a few days after reformatting. These hard drives are semi new. Theres no reason for them to fail.


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2007-07-17, 12:48 PM #9
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
The problem will come again a few days after reformatting. These hard drives are semi new. Theres no reason for them to fail.

New harddrives can fail too oh so intelligent one. Harddrives fail randomly--meaning there's always a chance (albeit a small one) that they can fail RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX.
D E A T H
2007-07-17, 12:49 PM #10
Hard drives don't need a reason to fail.
2007-07-17, 12:51 PM #11
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi:
New harddrives can fail too oh so intelligent one. Harddrives fail randomly--meaning there's always a chance (albeit a small one) that they can fail RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX.


Intelligent one? You don´t get it do you? I didn´t come here to brag or prove anything. I came here because I need a solution that doesn´t consist in reformatting, because I need to backup some files. I don't care if its a temporary solution all I want is to back up my photos and a couple other things. Can you help me out and not give me the simple lazy answer of reformatting?
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-07-17, 12:55 PM #12
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
Intelligent one? You don´t get it do you? I didn´t come here to brag or prove anything. I came here because I need a solution that doesn´t consist in reformatting, because I need to backup some files. I don't care if its a temporary solution all I want is to back up my photos and a couple other things. Can you help me out and not give me the simple lazy answer of reformatting?


hav u tride reformattzing? :tfti:
2007-07-17, 12:58 PM #13
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
i want your help but only if it's the answers i want. :downswords:


i will help you good sir!

your hard drives are spinning to fast and it's overheating, here's how to fix it:

1. CAREFULLY open both hard drives.
2. try not to breathe the whole time, if you get any air on them it won't work.
3. pour in motor oil (has to be synthetic, not dino)
4. seal the drive back up with "great stuff"
5. let it dry and trim the excess foam
6. reinstall the drives and they are now "via compatible"

:cool:
gbk is 50 probably

MB IS FAT
2007-07-17, 1:02 PM #14
I had the same problem, I solved it by not using my SATA disk as the windows disks. This was after trying reformating and repartitioning several times. Never had a problem with the disk since, it just never worked as the system disk.
Detty. Professional Expert.
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2007-07-17, 1:02 PM #15
Originally posted by NoESC:
i will help you good sir!

your hard drives are spinning to fast and it's overheating, here's how to fix it:

1. CAREFULLY open both hard drives.
2. try not to breathe the whole time, if you get any air on them it won't work.
3. pour in motor oil (has to be synthetic, not dino)
4. seal the drive back up with "great stuff"
5. let it dry and trim the excess foam
6. reinstall the drives and they are now "via compatible"

:cool:
lollllllllllllooooo
2007-07-17, 1:04 PM #16
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
I´ve done some google searching, and have found people with my problem, but none of the solutions listed work.

Computer:
Amd Athlon XP 2800
1024 mb DDR RAM
2 120GB Maxtor Diamond Plus 9 SATA
1 PC TVI Card
GeForce FXF 5200 256MB
ASUS KT600

The problem:
Last night, my computer froze, and I turned it off. Today I turned it on, and I get a BSOD after the Win XP Pro loading thing, and then a split second later, my computer restarts automaticaly.
I tried safe mode, and it loads up to mup.sys, then a few seconds later, it restarts.
Tried the recovery console from Win XP CD, it begins to load my first HDD, and just stays there, doing no thing.
Apparently, everyone with this problem has an SATA drive.

I need to URGENTLY get on this system by tomorrow. No, this system has nothing to do with my current mmo project or anything, all those files are backed up safely on my laptop. Thats where I´m currently posting from.

Can anyone help?

On a side note: The HDD was formated in NTFS, not FAT32, so thats not the problem here. I also had a dump of PICTURES on it, that are no longer on the camera memory, I can't reformat.



Whats the matter? Did someone plant a virus time bomb on your computer to wipe out your non-existant game again?
2007-07-17, 1:04 PM #17
laugh if you want, he'll be thanking me later
gbk is 50 probably

MB IS FAT
2007-07-17, 1:04 PM #18
Originally posted by Detty:
I had the same problem, I solved it by not using my SATA disk as the windows disks. This was after trying reformating and repartitioning several times. Never had a problem with the disk since, it just never worked as the system disk.


The only other disc I have is my old IDE, which is failing, which was my main reason to using these other SATA. I think I have to switch mother boards. Aparrently the drives WILL work on another system.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-07-17, 1:05 PM #19
Originally posted by Rob:
Whats the matter? Did someone plant a virus time bomb on your computer to wipe out your non-existant game again?


Read the post, these hard drives do NOT have any of the files related to that project.

On a side note, I´ve had it with this forum and its immaturity and unprofesionalism along with its rascim and elitism. This is THE GODDAMN END.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-07-17, 1:07 PM #20
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
This is THE GODDAMN END.
of the universe??
2007-07-17, 1:07 PM #21
I'm sure.

I bet you piggyback an excuse for not completing the game you aren't making on your hardware failures.

Which you will then blame on a conspiracy.

Which you will then blame on being a dirt poor mexican. (Who strangely enough has a much more modern, better computer than TE, Hmm)
2007-07-17, 1:10 PM #22
AHHHHHHHHHHHH MOTHERLAND!
D E A T H
2007-07-17, 1:14 PM #23
FATHERLAND!
2007-07-17, 1:20 PM #24
I... uh... Hm.

Ask for help then snap saying that they're wrong when you get it?
"Jayne, this is something the Captain has to do for himself"

"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2007-07-17, 1:22 PM #25
You should reformat.
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2007-07-17, 1:25 PM #26
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
On a side note, I´ve had it with this forum and its immaturity and unprofesionalism along with its rascim and elitism. This is THE GODDAMN END.


I'm sure you'll find it anywhere you go.
"If you watch television news, you will know less about the world than if you just drink gin straight out of the bottle."
--Garrison Keillor
2007-07-17, 1:27 PM #27
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
immaturity and unprofesionalism


Aren't you the guy that stole game content and then lied about it?

That sounds pretty immature and unprofessional to me. Way more immature than anything I've ever done.

As far as unprofessional..... WTF dude, we're a forum of starwars fans. This isn't a profession, douchebag.
2007-07-17, 1:36 PM #28
People are so dumb. They ask for free help and why they find out that the solution they want doesn't exist, they get mad at the people who took the time to help them for free. You should be especially glad you got any help Gold, given your less than shiny reputation around here.

To be honest, I'd give a repair install a shot, and if that doesn't you'll probably have to end up formatting because you don't have another desktop or the knowhow to slave it and try to replace mup.sys manually. (If that would even work. Besides, if you could do this you could just get the pics, and format anyway.) Also, it sounds like the crappy VIA chipset might not be playing nice with the SATA drives. I'd try to use IDE or something in the future.

My money is on you having to format, though, I doubt that will permanently fix it if it will fix it at all.


Quote:
This is THE GODDAMN END.


We could only be so lucky. Also, were you trying to pull the race card? You're not even Hispanic.
2007-07-17, 2:07 PM #29
He isn't?
2007-07-17, 2:08 PM #30
Massassi's racist?
omnia mea mecum porto
2007-07-17, 2:33 PM #31
Originally posted by Roach:
Massassi's racist?


just against dirty stinking mexicans
gbk is 50 probably

MB IS FAT
2007-07-17, 2:45 PM #32
Just a note, if it's data you're worried about, boot a live cd like knoppix, mount your NTFS partitions as readonly, and it will let you read the data that's on there. At least you'll be able to get your pictures.
2007-07-17, 2:47 PM #33
Racist because it's GREEEEEN
2007-07-17, 4:55 PM #34
Originally posted by Roach:
Massassi's racist?

This is MADNESS!!!

sorry, couldn't help myself
People of our generation should not be subjected to mornings.

Rbots
2007-07-17, 6:00 PM #35
Originally posted by James Bond:
This is MADNESS!!!

sorry, couldn't help myself


MADNESS!? THIS. IS. ...

Oh nevermind.
"In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams
Are you finding Ling-Ling's head?
Last Stand
2007-07-18, 4:21 AM #36
Why don't you just hook up that hard drive with the pictures to another computer (a friend's, for example). That way you can recover the data from the drive without it having to boot as system disk.
ORJ / My Level: ORJ Temple Tournament I
2007-07-18, 4:45 AM #37
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
On a side note, I´ve had it with this forum and its immaturity and unprofesionalism along with its rascim and elitism. This is THE GODDAMN END.


You're making me want to listen to REM. Please, it's not that serious. Except for your hard drive, It's ****ed. GG, next map.

As for the immaturity, lol. Zloc_Vergo I think it is is like 9 years old and he's way more mature than you'll ever be. It's not us, it's you, and I think we should see other people.

The racism? Few times have I seen DJ Yoshi and Rob actually offer advice without being condescending beforehand, and you **** on them in return. I think it's just because you're an idiot. PROTIP: Playing the race card when no instance of racism has occured proves that YOU, and not us, are racist.

The elitism? Welcome to the internet. For your recommended daily dosage, Jon`C has to post somewhere in this thread. But his is the good wholesome kind that never feel wrong.

Oh, and your solution is in Brian's post.

That is all.
error; function{getsig} returns 'null'
2007-07-18, 5:15 AM #38
Once you have your data back, buy a new hard drive. They are not expensive.
2007-07-18, 7:51 AM #39
He can't.

He lives in Mexico. Where the citizens are incapable of being consumders or working for a wage, according to SF_Gold.

He built his computer out of smuggled banjos I guess.
2007-07-18, 9:35 AM #40
And I feel finnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeee

Anyways, what's the actual stop error code in your BSOD?

Have you considered the following?

Quote:
Here is a partial list of problems (with solutions in parentheses) that have been identified as causing the "Safe Mode boot sequence hangs after loading mup.sys" failure signature (many of these were reported by several users):

- Registry entry pointing to a non-existent keyboard (clear bad registry entry)

- Conflicts between XP Service Pack 2 and certain hardware and/or drivers (revert to XP SP1 or change out the offending hardware (probably no longer an issue as compatible drivers are almost certainly available by now))

- Unspecified HDD media problem (fixed by running "chkdsk /p" via Recovery Console)

- CMOS setting problem (clear CMOS settings back to defaults)

- Bad IDE cable (replace the cable)

- APIC / Power Management not enabled in BIOS (enable APIC / Power Management in BIOS)

- nVidia IDE driver problem (remove the driver and let Windows' default IDE driver do the job)

- Cause unknown (reload Windows using Repair Install option)

- User follows improper procedure to upgrade motherboard or CPU on WinXP system (reload Windows using Repair Install option)

- Bad memory module (replace bad memory module)

- BIOS drivers not compatible with new hardware attached to motherboard (update BIOS drivers or remove offending hardware)


For your benefit, here is a thirty-four page thread on the issue:
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/31874/?o=0
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