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What the hell
2007-07-20, 9:46 AM #1
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/07/20/superfast.net.ap/index.html

:argh:
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2007-07-20, 9:48 AM #2
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2007-07-20, 9:52 AM #3
:argh:
2007-07-20, 9:53 AM #4
What a waste. :/


I wonder if thats fast enough to make everyone else in an online game lag.
2007-07-20, 10:39 AM #5
Awesome! Where do I sign up?
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2007-07-20, 11:37 AM #6
I wonder where she can use even a tiny fraction of that bandwidth.
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2007-07-20, 11:39 AM #7
We really need nationwide internet. God knows that'd never happen considering how many hands the bells have in our government's pockets. Imagine next to free VOIP, internet, and then soon after that TV?
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2007-07-20, 11:43 AM #8
You wanna go ahead and define "nationwide internet?"

Does that mean America gets its own private internets? I don't think there are enough room for that many tubes.
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2007-07-20, 11:49 AM #9
Originally posted by JediKirby:
We really need nationwide internet. God knows that'd never happen considering how many hands the bells have in our government's pockets. Imagine next to free VOIP, internet, and then soon after that TV?


If you want the government to control stuff like that, there's always Red China to think about.
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2007-07-20, 12:00 PM #10
Originally posted by JediKirby:
We really need nationwide internet. God knows that'd never happen considering how many hands the bells have in our government's pockets. Imagine next to free VOIP, internet, and then soon after that TV?


The internet is nation wide.

Thats how other countries access it, duh.
2007-07-20, 12:04 PM #11
Originally posted by happydud:
You wanna go ahead and define "nationwide internet?"

Does that mean America gets its own private internets? I don't think there are enough room for that many tubes.


I mean that the government installs fiberoptic interweb everywhere, and makes it government run.
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2007-07-20, 12:05 PM #12
Originally posted by JediKirby:
I mean that the government installs fiberoptic interweb everywhere, and makes it government run.


Because that would go over really well.

Really.
2007-07-20, 12:09 PM #13
I prefer private companies over government-runned fast internet connections. Competition helps improve the world of fast internet. If my connection went down, I can demand it go back up by calling the company. If the government handled it...
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2007-07-20, 12:14 PM #14
Originally posted by JediKirby:
I mean that the government installs fiberoptic interweb everywhere, and makes it government run.


I also want the government to rub my feet every morning. That would be great. Oh, and maybe fan my behind. That would be great.

Hey, and blowjobs. Can't forget government provided BJ's, that would be awesome, right guys?
2007-07-20, 12:26 PM #15
Suddenly making Internet a public service (i.e. government monopoly) would pretty much cause a number of allocative inefficiencies, cause a number of firms to incur major losses or shut down, and **** up at least a chunk of the economy.
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2007-07-20, 12:28 PM #16
Originally posted by JediKirby:
We really need nationwide internet. God knows that'd never happen considering how many hands the bells have in our government's pockets. Imagine next to free VOIP, internet, and then soon after that TV?

It couldn't be that our country is huge and nationwide internet would be horribly expensive, slow not to mention the fact that the government would ruin it horribly and censor it, could it?
D E A T H
2007-07-20, 12:43 PM #17
Er, nationalised health care doesn't replace private health care. The NHS doesn't forbid private practice. Britain believes that health care is a fundemental human right, which everyone should have access to; the NHS provides free health for everyone, but if you have the money you can still go private (in various different ways).

Similarly, I believe we're getting to the point where access to the internet ought to be a fundemental human right which everyone should have - access to this incredible wealth of shared human knowledge. Much like the NHS provides free health care, the government ought also provide free internet. Of course it wouldn't forbid you from 'going private', as we all are at the moment, but it would provide free internet access to those that cannot otherwise afford it.
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2007-07-20, 12:46 PM #18
Originally posted by Mort-Hog:
Er, nationalised health care doesn't replace private health care. The NHS doesn't forbid private practice. Britain believes that health care is a fundemental human right, which everyone should have access to; the NHS provides free health for everyone, but if you have the money you can still go private (in various different ways).

Similarly, I believe we're getting to the point where access to the internet ought to be a fundemental human right which everyone should have - access to this incredible wealth of shared human knowledge. Much like the NHS provides free health care, the government ought also provide free internet. Of course it wouldn't forbid you from 'going private', as we all are at the moment, but it would provide free internet access to those that cannot otherwise afford it.

Unless you live in rural areas you CAN get free internet--privatized at that. It's not great, but it works.

The US government has been looking for a way to censor the internet for years now, and this would just give them the excuse that they need to step in and put ridiculous restrictions on internet traffic, not to mention they'd probably force quite a few privatized businesses into closing so their option is more viable (albeit more censored and restricted).

I don't think you get how the US works. In every other country, yes, nationalization is at least somewhat feasible. In the US, it's nowhere near feasible.

EDIT: Not to mention the billions of dollars it would take to run all that wire in the rural areas--you also forget how big the US is compared to the countries of Europe and even Asia--and look at how long it's taken Europe to get decent internet speed/connectability/availability.
D E A T H
2007-07-20, 12:51 PM #19
Originally posted by Lord Kuat:
Hey, and blowjobs. Can't forget government provided BJ's, that would be awesome, right guys?


Isn't that what the whole Lewinski thing was about?
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2007-07-20, 1:01 PM #20
I think you're all crazy. If there were national internet, we could quickly cut down on overhead expenses everywhere. And while they might have an easier way to stop are warez, we could also control spam, and lots of really harmful illegal activity if we're willing to give up our child porn and warez. The government could simply buy the companies that they'd be replacing, and use their infrastructure to pilot a new standard in fat-pipe-laying.

I honestly think you guys are just paranoid.
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2007-07-20, 1:03 PM #21
The elimination of CP harvesting weirdos like CarpKing from internet isn't worth the surplus censorship a government run internet would bring.
2007-07-20, 1:05 PM #22
The government should provide access to information for free? Hey, it's called a library and they provide internet for free there. If they don't, they should. That solves that fundamental human right. Now why should the government provide free internet service to everyone's home?
2007-07-20, 1:07 PM #23
Originally posted by Jedi Legend:
The government should provide access to information for free? Hey, it's called a library and they provide internet for free there. If they don't, they should. That solves that fundamental human right. Now why should the government provide free internet service to everyone's home?


Kirby wants his free porn though, man. That's a human right too! And you can't very well jerk off in public, now can you, hmm?

Originally posted by JediKirby:
Stuff.


Hey Kirby, who's going to pay for all that stuff?
2007-07-20, 1:14 PM #24
Very few towns actually have free, public wireless internet network that its citizens can use at home (if these citizens have a wireless network card.) I'm all for that, seeing that it doesn't cost craploads of cash to put in wires everywhere. Of course, it's not as fast as cable or fiber-optics. Thus, I like to turn to private companies for reliable, easy, fast and uncensored internet connection.
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2007-07-20, 3:17 PM #25
Originally posted by JediKirby:
I think you're all crazy. If there were national internet, we could quickly cut down on overhead expenses everywhere. And while they might have an easier way to stop are warez, we could also control spam, and lots of really harmful illegal activity if we're willing to give up our child porn and warez. The government could simply buy the companies that they'd be replacing, and use their infrastructure to pilot a new standard in fat-pipe-laying.

I honestly think you guys are just paranoid.


No, I'm not paranoid.

I've just had bad experiences with our government. Trust me, my friend, bad **** like this WILL happen if there is a big enough opportunity.
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2007-07-20, 3:48 PM #26
Originally posted by JediKirby:
I think you're all crazy. If there were national internet, we could quickly cut down on overhead expenses everywhere. And while they might have an easier way to stop are warez, we could also control spam, and lots of really harmful illegal activity if we're willing to give up our child porn and warez. The government could simply buy the companies that they'd be replacing, and use their infrastructure to pilot a new standard in fat-pipe-laying.

I honestly think you guys are just paranoid.

You don't think that the internet is one of the few sources of truly open media nowadays? You don't think that freedom of speech on the internet is complete whereas everywhere else it's not? My christ, we're "paranoid"? Look at the kind of **** bush has been pulling the last seven years--I hardly think worrying about one of our last vestiges of freedom in an increasingly socialistic regime is "paranoia" and is more common sense. I think you're just too dense to see the political aspect of what you're asking.
D E A T H
2007-07-20, 4:06 PM #27
Wow, 40 gigabits-per-second. I'm actually quite jealous.
2007-07-20, 4:26 PM #28
Haha, I've heard the Bush regime been described as a lot of things, but 'socialist' (or 'socialistic', fairly unnecessary super-adjectivification there) is possibly the most the absurd. Really, Americans don't have a left-wing.
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2007-07-20, 4:57 PM #29
Originally posted by JediKirby:
I think you're all crazy. If there were national internet, we could quickly cut down on overhead expenses everywhere. And while they might have an easier way to stop are warez, we could also control spam, and lots of really harmful illegal activity if we're willing to give up our child porn and warez. The government could simply buy the companies that they'd be replacing, and use their infrastructure to pilot a new standard in fat-pipe-laying.

I honestly think you guys are just paranoid.
Yes, let's waste money on "really harmful illegal activity" that exists independantly from the internet, while giving the government an evergrowing capacity to be authoritarian.
2007-07-20, 5:04 PM #30
Originally posted by Mort-Hog:
Haha, I've heard the Bush regime been described as a lot of things, but 'socialist' (or 'socialistic', fairly unnecessary super-adjectivification there) is possibly the most the absurd. Really, Americans don't have a left-wing.


Mmm.
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2007-07-20, 6:58 PM #31
I just want to say that the federal government is extremely inefficient at doing things. It will cost more than it should, an not work as well as it could. I mean that on a drastic scale. Private companies are the way to go.
2007-07-20, 8:23 PM #32
Originally posted by Axis:
I just want to say that the federal government is extremely inefficient at doing things.


Yeah I know.

Reporting your really offensive website, the one with the scripture overlayed on a picture of the burning twin towers, to the FBI didn't get me ****ing anywhere. :argh:
2007-07-20, 8:29 PM #33
Originally posted by Axis:
I just want to say that the federal government is extremely inefficient at doing things.


You have no idea. I had to sign something like 25 different forms at the end my dispatch to get my time sheet turned in, among other things.
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2007-07-20, 11:23 PM #34
Originally posted by SavageX378:
If you want the government to control stuff like that, there's always Red China to think about.


Because that's the only model for government control of anything of course...:rolleyes:
2007-07-21, 4:12 AM #35
Originally posted by Axis:
I just want to say that the federal government is extremely inefficient at doing things. It will cost more than it should, an not work as well as it could. I mean that on a drastic scale. Private companies are the way to go.


Government is also the only institution that will protect your human rights and the rights of trade unions, and provide your basic services. Education, transport, (to some degree) healthcare, and various other services that government provides everyone. If government didn't provide these services, a large portion of the population wouldn't have access to them.
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2007-07-21, 12:37 PM #36
Yay for spending more money that we don't have! :rolleyes: That's going to end up screwing us over someday. Free government services. Kind of like credit cards let you get free stuff.



Anyway, I'd be surprised if she actually had 40gb/s coming into her house. Her modem and router and nic wouldn't be able to handle more than 1 gb/s at best, and even the PC's internal infrastructure wouldn't be able to saturate it. Heck, even PCIe x16 has only 32gb/s of bandwidth. The memory bandwidth on a Geforce 3 isn't even much higher.
2007-07-21, 12:49 PM #37
She's got an internet backbone router in her basement Obi, that's how we do things in Sweden.
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2007-07-22, 1:13 AM #38
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
Yay for spending more money that we don't have! :rolleyes: That's going to end up screwing us over someday. Free government services. Kind of like credit cards let you get free stuff.


I know!

How dare we develop social systems that benefit our citizens! We should just drag all the people we don't like into the street, beat them to death, then cook them and feed them to everyone else! YEAH. That'd save alot of money! I need more $100 bills to wipe my ***, I wouldn't want to have to resort to using $20's!
2007-07-22, 1:35 AM #39
Originally posted by Rob:
I know!

How dare we develop social systems that benefit are citizens! We should just drag all the people we don't like into the street, beat them to death, then cook them and feed them to everyone else! YEAH. That'd save alot of money! I need more $100 bills to wipe my ***, I wouldn't want to have to resort to using $20's!


That's a pretty modest proposal right there.
2007-07-22, 1:41 AM #40
Thanks for quoting me before I noticed I used the wrong homonym. :(
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