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Technology hates me
2007-08-11, 2:43 PM #1
Long story short, my computers broken. Ive replaced everything aside from the CPU and the Case itself.

The motherboard (the new one) is getting power from a new PSU. The front panel is plugged in correctly ( the board has each pin labeled). Everything is plugged in, jumpers are set properly. And yet it still wont turn on.

So either my case power button is messed up (dont know how that could happen) or my CPU is dead?

I dont know where to go from here. Should i just take a stab in teh dark and order a cheap case and a new CPU and see if that fixes it?
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2007-08-11, 2:55 PM #2
Well, to check the button. take a screwdriver and touch the two pins together that you plug your power button jumper too. Im skeptical, but it might be this. If that does not work go ahead and try and connect all the pins in that little group, two by two.

While it would suck, your ram might have been zapped as well. When did you start having problems? Can you trace back to when things started going wrong?
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2007-08-11, 3:03 PM #3
yeah, have you checked ram/power supply/video card?
gbk is 50 probably

MB IS FAT
2007-08-11, 3:05 PM #4
The PSU and Video card are both new. Would bad ram really prevent the computer from even powering up?

The screwdriver only lit up a light on my motherboard called PWRSW.
It doesnt seem to be doing that with this PSU though.... so im going to try my other PSU again
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2007-08-11, 5:21 PM #5
Removing everything and starting piece by piece worked for a bit. then i decided to plug in more stuff and try and its not turning on again. sooo.... i guess ill try again later

blah
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2007-08-11, 5:36 PM #6
Is your PSU powerful enough for everything you have connected?
2007-08-11, 8:02 PM #7
Originally posted by mb:
Removing everything and starting piece by piece worked for a bit. then i decided to plug in more stuff and try and its not turning on again. sooo.... i guess ill try again later

blah


Wait... what did you plug in before it wouldn't start.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-08-11, 8:45 PM #8
Take out the case power switch from the MoBo. If it power's on when you turn on the PSU, then that would be your problem.
2007-08-11, 10:30 PM #9
To answer you question about the ram, Yes, one stick of bad ram will stop the computer from starting up all together, Ive had it happen to me once or twice before. I kind of doubt that the PSU isn't powerful enough. A lot of people think you need a 500 W or Higher PSU to power a modern computer, but that is not true, most computer will work with a 300+ PSU (and some older ones will work with less, go look up some power draw charts if you don't believe me).

So, as others have said, try going back to just the CPU, Ram and Video card (if you MoBo has an onboard Video card use that) If it doesn't work then you know it is one of those 3 pieces that is having trouble. Generally, CPUs will not fail unless you break a pin or overclock them (you know if you Overclock it, you would change voltage, FSB, or multiplier). Even static charge is LESS likely to break a CPU (but no impossible). I guess poor cooling can do it (did you use thermal grease and is your fan working?). VERY Rarely (Pretty much never) will a manufacturer send out a broken CPU. So if it is broke you probably did it.

For the Ram, it is a bit more volatile (small pun). Shocking the ram (not grabbing your case before touching the ram), Overclocking it, and even the occasional bad stick are all possibilities. you are MUCH more likely to get a bad stick of ram then a bad CPU. It is also possible (but rare) that your motherboard does not support the ram you have. This is more an issue with other Mother Boards.

And your motherboard. Pretty much they arrive dead or alive and work forever. They susceptible to shock, but it is unlikely that you did that. I have seen it before where the terminals at the bottom of the board where touching the case, once I installed the elevation pins everything worked fine. Some motherboards can have their capacitors blown out. Check to see if there is unusual bulging on the cylinders on your mobo (they are the capacitors). Overclocking can kill a MoBo as well (see CPU stuff). One other thing is the fans may be dead on the MoBo, but that usually does not kill it, just causes instability.

For the videocard, Honestly I have never heard of a DOA Video card, so I assume they are rare. Shock, and overclocking would be the most likely killers. But shock is really not all that likely, just worth mentioning.

Your PSU might be dead, but I doubt it. When PSU's die they usually go up in smoke (and take a few other components with them) you probably would have smelt something.

As a side note, Above I mentioned that PSU's at 300W can handle most modern computers, that is not wrong, I ran my Core 2 Duo on a 400 W ThermalTake with a Nvidia 7600 GS, 2 hds and 2 Cd/dvd burners. I even managed to overclock it up to 3 GHZ. After that I needed a better PSU because it only supported the 4 prong spare connector and not the spare 8 prong, which provides a more stable voltage and thus a higher OC. The key to a PSU is really brand name. The Wattage does not mean a whole lot. A Quality brand 400W PSU can run circles around a Generic 800W. Never use the PSU that comes free with your case. With PSU's the adage is true, you get what you pay for. So if you spend $30 for a 600W PSU, chances are the PSU sucks, you should be spending above $50 for a PSU, with that being $50 for about 400W $60 500 and so forth.

Good luck, and I hope this helps
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