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Hitman film seems to be R rated and faithful to the games
2007-08-12, 4:59 PM #1
First two new high res shots that I got from the imdb boards.Noticed how 47 is in a disguise for the second shot.
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4483/szenenbild01jpeg933x140qb9.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2669/szenenbild02jpeg1538x10oq5.jpg

Now as for the R rating. Someone on the IMDb board said that Director Gens fought hard with the studio to maintain keep the R rating. Also some people have said the script is quite violent (reviewed favorably too).

Quote:
As some have already said, this script is a violent one. We have graphic mutilations, stabbing in throats (think ‘Pen scene’ in Casino x 10), body dismemberment (think ‘Truck scene’ in The Hitcher x 10), shootings (obviously), strangulations.


Very very minor spoilers just to note
source: http://www.switchblademaniac.com/scripts/h.htm

I haven't read the script myself, but if you're really curious you can ask for someone off of the IMDb for a copy. The movie seems to be on the right track so far though I do hope that the so called "love interest" is nothing more than an assassin disguise or someone who is like Mei Ling from the game.
2007-08-12, 5:02 PM #2
I don't know. The actor looks like he shows too much emotion. But I hope it's good.
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2007-08-12, 5:03 PM #3
I agree. His face isn't cold enough.
2007-08-12, 5:07 PM #4
Sounds good. But yeah, he doesn't look nearly as cold-blooded and detached as the 47 from the games.
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2007-08-12, 5:08 PM #5
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2007-08-12, 5:09 PM #6
Is it a bad thing that I laughed when I saw the second picture?
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2007-08-12, 5:23 PM #7
Shouldof casted Vin Diesel fo sho'.
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2007-08-12, 6:16 PM #8
Or Daniel Day Lewis.
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2007-08-12, 6:18 PM #9
Patrick Stewart anyone :P
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2007-08-12, 6:35 PM #10
Originally posted by Phantom-Seraph:
Patrick Stewart anyone :P


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NOT GOOD ENOUGH!
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2007-08-12, 6:41 PM #11
Originally posted by Koobie:
Sounds good. But yeah, he doesn't look nearly as cold-blooded and detached as the 47 from the games.


Agreed. His face doesn't really have the hard lines that 47's does in the games either.
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2007-08-12, 7:36 PM #12
Yeah, should've been Vin Diesel.

Naked the whole movie though.
2007-08-12, 7:36 PM #13
He doesn't look the part, but if the movie does it justice I will be appeased.
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2007-08-12, 9:35 PM #14
Yeah, let's just ignore the fact that Timothy Olyphant is an incredibly talented actor, and whine about him being "too young" or "baby faced" for the role.
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2007-08-12, 9:42 PM #15
Well, obviously the only way to cast the role is by resembalance to the video game character.
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2007-08-12, 10:01 PM #16
Yeah, that's the perfect train of thought. Cast someone based on physical appearance only.
>>untie shoes
2007-08-12, 10:07 PM #17
Use the baldness index.
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2007-08-12, 11:16 PM #18
Originally posted by Antony:
Yeah, that's the perfect train of thought. Cast someone based on physical appearance only.


well, it is a big part of good casting, and in this case, should probably be the MOST important thing to look for. it's an action movie - all he needs to do is look cold-blooded while doing some action shots.

poor casting job imo. definitely too "baby faced", as some of you have already pointed out.
2007-08-12, 11:22 PM #19
Actually it should've been Jason Statham.
2007-08-12, 11:30 PM #20
game movies being good that's lulliffic
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2007-08-12, 11:30 PM #21
Hey, Wing Commander is pretty good.
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2007-08-12, 11:50 PM #22
The Wing Commander movie didn't have Mark Hamill in it. Not even a cameo.
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2007-08-13, 1:40 AM #23
Mark Hamill's best role ever was Bob Sheridan in LaserHawk

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2007-08-13, 4:43 AM #24
A film where the main character had zero personality would make for a fairly tedious affair. It might be fine for a game where YOU the player have involvement, but in a passive medium like film you need something to involve the viewer besides just guns and explosions. Obviously there are some people who would cope if that was all, but most people need to see character development - that's the point of telling a story isn't it?

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2007-08-13, 5:10 AM #25
I think that they should've casted David Bateson.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0061055/
幻術
2007-08-13, 6:04 AM #26
Originally posted by Antony:
Yeah, let's just ignore the fact that Timothy Olyphant is an incredibly talented actor, and whine about him being "too young" or "baby faced" for the role.


Yeap, amen to that. My vote goes to the actor who can actually act.
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2007-08-13, 6:32 AM #27
Originally posted by Spork:
Yeap, amen to that. My vote goes to the actor who can actually act.


But "act" like what? Not everyone responds to emotional situations in an intriguing way. Even if you had cast the world's most convincing emotive actor in the role of 47, in my opinion, he would still have to act emotionless, as that's what the role calls for.
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2007-08-13, 10:31 AM #28
You ever hear about an actor delivering a nuanced performance?

And 47 was never completely emotionless.
>>untie shoes
2007-08-13, 10:31 AM #29
Like a whole once in the entire series. :/
2007-08-13, 2:47 PM #30
Originally posted by Lord_Grismath:
But "act" like what? Not everyone responds to emotional situations in an intriguing way. Even if you had cast the world's most convincing emotive actor in the role of 47, in my opinion, he would still have to act emotionless, as that's what the role calls for.


Go watch season 1 of Deadwood and tell me Timothy Olyphant isnt one of the best actors around at giving an emotionally charged but outwardly understated performance.

I'm not saying that 47 = Sherrif Bullock, but I am saying that Olyphant a damn good actor who can play a challenging role pretty freaking well.
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2007-08-13, 2:49 PM #31
The problem is that the CHARACTER of 47 from the game is formed mostly by how imposing he looks, and how deep his voice is, since he doesn't talk often it can be chilling.
2007-08-13, 3:10 PM #32
1911 + hot girl in second shot.


Thats all I care about. It's a video game movie. I have no hopes.
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2007-08-13, 3:10 PM #33
Originally posted by Rob:
The problem is that the CHARACTER of 47 from the game is formed mostly by how imposing he looks, and how deep his voice is, since he doesn't talk often it can be chilling.


Hence, David Bateson!
幻術
2007-08-13, 3:41 PM #34
Originally posted by Spook:
1911 + hot girl in second shot.


Thats all I care about. It's a video game movie. I have no hopes.

Yeah...but it'd be better if it wasn't a 9mm. Why would anyone want a 1911 in 9mm is beyond me.
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2007-08-13, 3:58 PM #35
Originally posted by Roach:
Yeah...but it'd be better if it wasn't a 9mm. Why would anyone want a 1911 in 9mm is beyond me.


Is it really? Isn't that the point of the Browning hi-po? It's like a 1911, but without the problems that changing calibers creates?

laaaaame
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2007-08-13, 4:00 PM #36
If it's the same model as the first pic (and I think it is), it's a ParaOrdnance P18-9.

[Edit- I'm pretty sure the Browning Hi-Power was just the result of Browning realizing he was a fool for giving up the rights to the 1911 design.]
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2007-08-13, 6:31 PM #37
Seems a lot of people are still not satisfied with Oliphaunt as 47. How was he in Die Hard 4 by the way?
2007-08-13, 7:13 PM #38
Originally posted by Cloud:
Seems a lot of people are still not satisfied with Oliphaunt as 47. How was he in Die Hard 4 by the way?

He was pretty lame. I usually like him, but it was pretty bad.
2007-08-14, 5:00 AM #39
Originally posted by Roach:
If it's the same model as the first pic (and I think it is), it's a ParaOrdnance P18-9.

[Edit- I'm pretty sure the Browning Hi-Power was just the result of Browning realizing he was a fool for giving up the rights to the 1911 design.]


hard to tell. the first shot is definitely a p18-9 (ew, not a fan of double stack 1911s), though in the game, 47 uses AMT hardballers with pachmeyr grips. the second shot, it's really too blurry to tell, but it COULD be a browning HP. who knows, there are so many 1911-type pistols out there...
2007-08-14, 5:28 AM #40
Originally posted by Rob:
The problem is that the CHARACTER of 47 from the game is formed mostly by how imposing he looks, and how deep his voice is, since he doesn't talk often it can be chilling.


I'm with Rob on this one. I don't care how good Olyphaunt (sp?) is as an actor, I care about his fidelity to the established persona of the character he's playing.

For instance, I think Rowan Atkinson is a great comedic actor; however, if he were cast as James Bond (and I'm not talking Johnny English) in a serious Bond flick, if he failed to be debonair, classy, and lethal and "interpreted" the role into a more tragic, comedic, and bumbling one, any great leaps of skill or creativity he might make in doing so would be for naught. The Bond character has been established through a long line of predecessor films. The character can still evolve, but it's unlikely that the evolution would be so sudden or dramatic.

With 47, we know he's a conditioned, cold, and generally emotionless clone. The creepiness of 47 is that he displays no emotions. Whereas many killers kill out of hatred or fear, 47 is like a machine. He's supposed to be beyond human emotion. But I think in today's collective consciousness there's a very strong "emotions first" attitude that makes a true-to-the-games 47 a bitter (or at least inconsistent with what's out there) pill to swallow.
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