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Democratic National Convention
2004-07-26, 5:53 PM #1
Carter was pretty bad, Gore was alright, Clinton was fantastic. You know things are going well when all 4 news advisors on Fox News agree that Clinton's speech was extraordinary, much due to the fact that the monotone Bush-bashing has finally been replaced by some positive thinking.

On the other hand, Carter's speech was horrendous. He talked like a lame mule (pardon me, but that is the only way to really describe it) and his word usage was extreme (calling Republicans radical and extremists). I think they should have just dropped Carter from the program altogether.

Which poses the question: why do Democrats feel the need to use the Bush-is-teh-Dev1l approach if they can do so much better? Apparently, Clinton needs to teach Kerry a thing or two about effective speech making.
2004-07-26, 5:58 PM #2
I forced myself to watch part of it. I watched through Gore's speech, and turned it off in disgust. He is still upset about his loss in '01. He dwelled on that too much.

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2004-07-26, 6:00 PM #3
Both Clinton and Edwards have learned that making negative speeches endear themselves to no one that doesn't already support them. Kerry hasn't.

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2004-07-26, 6:09 PM #4
Well the campaigning we've seen to date has been Democrats energizing their "Anyone but Bush" base. They have to change the tone or risk alienating themselves from potential voters.

I found it funny that Carter talked about America's victory in the Cold War since that is most attributable to changes that occured in America after he was defeated.

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2004-07-26, 6:23 PM #5
You mean people watch the Democratic National Convention?

Seriously, I'm a huge political junkie, and I don't think I could bring myself to sit through that. From what I can tell, these conventions have more to do with self-congratulation than actual politics.

Edit: Although, come to think of it, the two may have more in common than I originally thought.

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2004-07-27, 2:47 AM #6
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I forced myself to watch part of it. I watched through Gore's speech, and turned it off in disgust. He is still upset about his loss in '01. He dwelled on that too much.
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He didn't lose.
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2004-07-27, 5:16 AM #7
Maybe not in '01 but he certainly did in 2000. You see, that's why he isn't President. I can understand some bitterness. Afterall he did receive more popular votes and the whole thing would have been a moot point if he could have carried his homestate.

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2004-07-27, 5:51 AM #8
Oh I can see where this is going..

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2004-07-27, 5:56 AM #9
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He didn't lose.</font>


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2004-07-27, 5:56 AM #10
Although I did not agree with most of what clinton said, his speech and the way he presented it was excellent.




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2004-07-27, 7:14 AM #11
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Oh I can see where this is going..

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2004-07-27, 7:24 AM #12
Ok, it is time for the ridiculous debate committee to sit down and pick sides on the retarded issue at hand. Shall we use the same team players as the 'chick' debate or shall we reset the side?

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2004-07-27, 7:33 AM #13
I think we should put everyone's names into a big hat, and just draw names for each side at random. Should make the debate even funnier.
2004-07-27, 7:38 AM #14
Well, to get back to the topic at hand, I didn't watch any of the speeches all the way through. I caught a smidgeon of Gore, I thought it was funny when he said he was the first one laid off. Watched abit of Carter. Don't really have anything good to say about his speach. Clinton as usual did a good job. He's very charismatic. The substance of his speach was crap, in my opinion, but he's preaching to the choir and the weak minded anyway (I don't mean that derrogatorilly, weak minded in respect to those that will simply believe whatever they hear without applying any thought process of their own to it).

On a side note I was watching Fox News, O'Reily at the time, and he was interviewing Joan Jett. I'm always curious to hear celebrities views because more often than not I disagree with them. I thought she was great. She's a Democrat and a liberal and manages to carry on a conversation without being insulting to people that may hold different views. She's intelligent and is considerate enough to not insult those in her fanbase that might disagree with her views. In the end that serves to benefit her more professionally and financially. I don't understand why so many celebrities don't get that.

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