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omgtwins!? Better sue the doctor...
2007-09-18, 9:32 AM #1
..because, y'know, spending a couple hundred $ on a pram is the last straw. :suicide:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22439232-29277,00.html?from=mostpop

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Lesbian couple sues over twins

By Melissa Jenkins

September 18, 2007 02:26pm
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A LESBIAN couple is suring a Canberra doctor after one of them gave birth to twins instead of one child.

In the first case of its kind in Australia, the couple, who now live in Melbourne, are suing Dr Robert Armellin for more than $400,000 to cover the cost of raising one of the twin girls until the age of 21.
The birth mother of the girls, who are now aged three, claims Dr Armellin implanted her with two embryos, when she told him minutes before the IVF procedure in November 2003 that she only wanted one.

The women, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, told the ACT Supreme Court today the mother suffered nausea during her pregnancy and in the latter stages could only move around with a walking stick.

She said she and her partner briefly considered adopting out one of the girls but dismissed the idea.

"You thought: `Which one am I not meant to have'?" Dr Armellin's barrister Kim Burke asked.
"Yes, I did," the woman replied.

She said adopting out one child would be unfair to both girls.

"The primary consideration was that adoption shifted the burden of responsibility for this situation onto the children," she said.

"The burden is not the children's to bear. The burden is ours alone."

The woman said she enjoyed some aspects of the pregnancy, such as decorating the girls' nursery, but other parts were distressing, including purchasing a pram.

"It was like the last frontier of acceptance to spend hundreds of dollars on a pram," she said.

The couple, whose combine income exceeds $100,000, are seeking $398,000 to cover the costs of raising one of the girls, including private school fees.

They also want around $15,000 to compensate them for time off work, plus an additional amount for medical expenses.

The case is the first of its kind in Australia, Ms Burke said.

There have been two other similar cases in the United Kingdom, where the names of the plaintiffs have also been suppressed.

The civil hearing before Justice Annabel Bennett continues.
woot!
2007-09-18, 9:39 AM #2
What a load of bull****. They use two embroys for IVF to help ensure that at least one will survive. She can't sue a doctor for being fertile.
2007-09-18, 9:39 AM #3
apparently she can
free(jin);
tofu sucks
2007-09-18, 10:03 AM #4
In America, if you're not suing someone, you should be.
2007-09-18, 10:08 AM #5
Am I the only one who had to look up "pram"?
2007-09-18, 10:12 AM #6
an 8 foot sailboat?
free(jin);
tofu sucks
2007-09-18, 11:41 AM #7
Originally posted by Aglar:
Am I the only one who had to look up "pram"?

Nope ;)
Sorry for the lousy German
2007-09-18, 11:45 AM #8
A shame the only real-life hot lesbians live in Sweden.
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2007-09-18, 11:47 AM #9
I don't know, actually. Was she informed beforehand that this could possibly happen?
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2007-09-18, 11:50 AM #10
Originally posted by Michael MacFarlane:
I don't know, actually. Was she informed beforehand that this could possibly happen?


Who knows...but $400k..? Holycow.
woot!
2007-09-18, 12:43 PM #11
Originally posted by Anovis:
In America, if you're not suing someone, you should be.


In other news: This is happening in Australia.
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2007-09-18, 1:12 PM #12
Originally posted by Aglar:
Am I the only one who had to look up "pram"?


+1
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2007-09-18, 1:14 PM #13
Originally posted by happydud:
In other news: This is happening in Australia.

Haha, that actually made me laugh.

I can't wait for women to sue men for impregnating them.
omnia mea mecum porto
2007-09-18, 1:19 PM #14
We already have something like that.

Except you don't get to plead your case in front of a judge because men don't have any real rights to their children.
2007-09-18, 1:21 PM #15
Originally posted by Aglar:
Am I the only one who had to look up "pram"?


I only knew what it was due to Monty Python.
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2007-09-18, 1:22 PM #16
That's the way I like it.

After all, if women have to ditch their careers just to take care of the future generations, the men don't really need to have rights to their children. God I love absolutes.

Stupid children.
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2007-09-18, 1:25 PM #17
Originally posted by landfish:
an 8 foot sailboat?


Actually a boat with two flat ends, usually a norwegian style of boatbuilding>__>

o.0
2007-09-18, 1:29 PM #18
Originally posted by JLee:
Who knows...but $400k..? Holycow.


Yeah, it's too much. I'm just thinking that it may not be a wholly frivolous lawsuit. She might be entitled to some damages, even if the amount she wants is excessive.
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2007-09-18, 1:36 PM #19
What damages is she entitled to? It's her own body's fault. Should doctors start making lesbian couples less capable of incubating children before they agree to work with them?
omnia mea mecum porto
2007-09-18, 1:42 PM #20
I bet she would have sued if it didn't work.



She's probably fat and has chin hair. I say we all turn a blind eye and let her deal with the consequences of not reading the fine.
2007-09-18, 1:55 PM #21
Originally posted by Roach:
What damages is she entitled to? It's her own body's fault. Should doctors start making lesbian couples less capable of incubating children before they agree to work with them?


Of course not. Like I said, my only question is whether she was properly informed. I'm certainly no lawyer, but it seems possible to me that she could be given some compensation if they didn't warn her she could end up with twins.

If they told her this could happen beforehand and she still decided to go through with the procedure, then yeah, she's got nothing.
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2007-09-18, 2:05 PM #22
Originally posted by Anovis:
In America, if you're not suing someone, you should be.


The cake is a lie... THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!!!
2007-09-18, 3:24 PM #23
I sued Taco Bell
'Cause I ate half a million Chalupas
And I got fat!

I sued Panasonic
They never said I shouldn't use their microwave
To dry off my cat

Huh, I sued Earthlink
'Cause I called them up
N' they had the nerve to put me on hold

I sued Starbucks
'Cause I spilled a Frappucino in my lap
And brrr, it was cold!

I sued Toys'R'Us
'Cause I swallowed a Nerf ball
And nearly choked to death

Ugh, I sued PetCo
'Cause I ate a bag of kitty litter
And now I got bad breath!

I sued Coca-Cola, yo
'Cause I put my finger down in a bottle
And it got stuck!

I sued Delta Airlines
'Cause they sold me a ticket to New Jersey
I went there, and it sucked!

Yeah!!!

If you stand me up on a date
If you deliver my pizza 30 seconds late

I'm gonna sue, sue
Yes, I'm gonna sue
Sue, sue, yeah that's what I'm gonna do
I'm gonna sue, sue
Yes, I'm gonna sue
Sue, sue, yeah I might even sue you!

Ugh!!

I sued Duracell
They never told me not to shove that double-A
Right up my nose

I sued Home Depot
'Cause they sold me a hammer
Which they knew I might drop on my toes

I sued Dell Computers
'Cause I took a bath with my laptop
Now it doesn't work

I sued Fruit of the Loom
'Cause when I wear their tightie-whities on my head
I look like a jerk

I sued Verizon
'Cause I get all depressed
Any time my cell phone is roaming

I sued Colorado
'Cause you know, I think it looks a little bit too much
Like Wyoming

I sued Neiman Marcus
'Cause they put up their Christmas decorations
Way out of season

I sued Ben Affleck
...
Aw, do I even need a reason?

Ugh!

If I sprain my ankle
While I'm robbing your place

If I hurt my knuckles
When I punch you in the face

I'm gonna sue, sue
Yes, I'm gonna sue
Sue, sue, yeah that's what I'm gonna do
I'm gonna sue, sue
Yes, I'm gonna sue
Sue, sue, that's right I'm gonna sue you

Ugh!
Ugh!
Ugh!

I'll sue ya!
I'll take all of your money
I'll sue ya!
If you even look at me funny

I'll sue ya!
I'll take all of your money
I'll sue ya!
If you even look at me funny

I'll sue ya!
I'll take all of your money
I'll sue ya!
If you even look at me funny

I'll sue ya!
I'll take all of your money
I'll sue ya!
If you even look at me funny

I'll sue ya!
Ha-ha ha ha-haa
I'll sue ya!
What'chall think of that?

I'll sue ya!
Ha-ha ha ha-haa
Boo ya!
I'll sue ya!

Ugh!
2007-09-18, 3:33 PM #24
Originally posted by Michael MacFarlane:
Of course not. Like I said, my only question is whether she was properly informed. I'm certainly no lawyer, but it seems possible to me that she could be given some compensation if they didn't warn her she could end up with twins.

If they told her this could happen beforehand and she still decided to go through with the procedure, then yeah, she's got nothing.

Ok, I can somewhat understand that. I'm sure there was a very detailed pamphlet and the doctor described the procedure, but I suppose it wouldn't be hard to imagine they mostly covered risks of losing the kid long term and possible rejections and whatnot than to the whole "oh...and technically it's possible for you to have multiple children."
omnia mea mecum porto
2007-09-18, 4:33 PM #25
Quote:
The women . . . told the ACT Supreme Court today the mother suffered nausea during her pregnancy and in the latter stages could only move around with a walking stick.


Unprecedented! Have these women never heard of morning sickness?
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2007-09-18, 8:18 PM #26
*facepalm*
Fincham: Where are you going?
Me: I have no idea
Fincham: I meant where are you sitting. This wasn't an existential question.
2007-09-18, 8:20 PM #27
Anyone going through Invitro knows that they wil be given more then one egg at a time... this is done to ensure that at least one egg develops.

This is a rediculous case, but the sueing song is amazing!
Mirthy

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2007-09-18, 8:21 PM #28
(PS - Mirthy is my favorite person in the world)
Fincham: Where are you going?
Me: I have no idea
Fincham: I meant where are you sitting. This wasn't an existential question.
2007-09-18, 8:24 PM #29
Originally posted by SavageX378:


Flash Animation is ruining animation. :(
2007-09-18, 10:36 PM #30
this is really retarded! unless she specifically asked "hey doc, is there a chance i might end up with twins" and he said "nope, not a chance in the world" this is one of the stupidest lawsuits I've ever heard of.
if this trend continues i wont be able to step out my door without being smothered by government instituted "safety" to protect humans from their own boobery! :suicide:
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2007-09-18, 10:42 PM #31
Originally posted by Rob:
Flash Animation is ruining animation. :(


Oh wah. It's perfectly fine.
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2007-09-19, 12:31 AM #32
Originally posted by Gebohq:
Oh wah. It's perfectly fine.


Well, it's good animation for flash

But that's kind of the problem :(
2007-09-19, 12:41 AM #33
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
;855720']Well, it's good animation for flash

But that's kind of the problem :(


It's just a different style of animation. I don't hear anyone complaining about South Park's animation style ruining animation, and it's essentially the same thing. You all have been spoiled by the contextually revolutionary animations of 80's music videos.
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2007-09-19, 3:01 AM #34
Damn.

I want kids so bad.
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2007-09-19, 6:56 AM #35
Originally posted by Gebohq:
It's just a different style of animation. I don't hear anyone complaining about South Park's animation style ruining animation, and it's essentially the same thing. You all have been spoiled by the contextually revolutionary animations of 80's music videos.


<3 cafe racers


But no, have you ever noticed how similiar like most flash animations look? They're pretty bland. :/ Maybe it's the limitation of a new technology, but I just thing the medium is best hand drawn.

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