By vote of 76-22

lol amerikka

Seriously.

****.

Yeah, because we don't want to offend Iran or anything.

My thoughts on the matter are summed up nicely by the comments:

Attention: Those who plan to vote in the Democratic Presidential Primary:

If you vote for Clinton, you are voting FOR military action in Iran! Clinton voted FOR the invasion of Iraq and now FOR the invasion (or worse yet, nuclear bombing) of Iran. You might as well vote for a NeoCon.

I am voting for Kucinich.

If you vote for Clinton, you are not voting for a “progressive,” no matter what the screaming NeoCons claim. Remember, those crazies call the mainstream media “liberal!”

WTF Democrats! You all know that this Amendment is a precursor to a war in Iran, and you f*%$*ng signed it anyway! Retards!

Outrage, disbelief, and a disheartening sense of lack of Democracy only begin to describe my current mood in regard to the modern political climate in this once great country.

I just wrote my letter to the Democratic Party in regard to their lack of awareness of their electorate, of responsibility to integrity, and of their spineless allowance of the Republican war machine.

How did this even get to a vote? Is this why we worked and spent and called to get a democratic majority elected in 2006? We could have saved our time and spent the money on partying for all the good it did.

Feh.

Of course. It’s time we all wake up and recognize the simple fact that neither party represents the general welfare of this republic or its people. The federal government has long since become a body preoccupied only with self-preservation and self-aggrandizement.

Statesmanship is dead. The Punch-and-Judy partisan theatrics to which the peasant masses are exposed are little more than a front for the true bipartisan sensibility, which is to protect the members of the club and their benefactors at all costs. I am sickened today by the very small people to whom the fortunes of this great republic have been entrusted. We have all–liberal, conservative, American–been betrayed.

This is not small. This is big.

This is the Senate doing the exact same thing they did in 03 in Iraq.

They just gave the president the go ahead to attack Iran.

Anyone voting for any of these senators who voted yea, is a fool.

Its over. And I don’t think I am voting next year.



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This is total bull****. **** the democrats, I am through with them.

Sorry, I personally didn't want to entertain the propaganda on that site, nor will I in your post. So if you have something specific to say on the matter, fine. Say it.

Can't forget this one:

The Republicans run Congress more effectively as the minority party than the Democrats can as the majority party. I can’t stand it. What cowards.

The Republicans are jerks and the Democrats are jerks. They each have their own unique, and at the same time, same flavor. I'll vote write in for Ron Paul. His fad following will be long gone by then, but who cares? It's not like we have any real options anyway. Americans are too short sighted and selfish to even help themselves out on a longer time scale than five years. I'd move, but it's not like there are any better countries.

At when I suffer, all the idiots who brought things about will suffer as well. Not really much consolation though.

Wait wait wait. I don't wanna hold up the conversation or anything, But does this mean that its more then 50/50 that you guys are going after Iran? Or worse.. Nuking them?

It gives the U.S. the option to use military force against Iran. The bill didn't rule out nukes.

So i can go ahead and be depressed again?

Yes, yes you can.

Congress has forgotten its constituents. America is broken beyond repair.

Or the constituents have no faith in their congress.

Actually the problem is that congress has remembered it's constituents. Most of them are idiots.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r110:1:./temp/~r110xYUw55:e531061:

Thanks for posting that, Wookie. More people need to read the document that authorized war with Iran for themselves.

Knowledge is power and any free thinking individual will realize the ammendment is far from what some purport it to be. Oops, maybe I should redneck that last sentence down a bit.

Exactly. Warhawks are scurrying like hell to tell everyone the bill doesn't mean anything, but the bill is far from what they purport it to be.

You know what response one guy got after calling his senator and getting an aide? "Oh, this bill doesn't mean anything."

Yeah, right. If it doesn't mean anything then that's all the more reason the dems should have grown a backbone and killed it.

Anyway, the bill clearly states that "military instruments" can be used against Iran.

Yeah, Iranian terrorists. But that probably is most of them.

Yeah, isn't that group they labelled as terrorists actually their state army? So... yeah. Duh. That's full-on war.

No, from what I understand it is a radical branch of their military. I'll do a little research after the BIONIC WOMAN.

It's their 'elite' unit though.

Besides, it doesn't even matter. It's a state-sanctioned portion of their military. It would be like Canada declaring the USMC terrorists, then expecting the USMC to fight Canada by itself without the rest of the U.S. military intervening.

What I'm saying is if we attack Iran's Royal Guard (or whatever it's called), then Iran's regular army will OF COURSE attack as well, and they have every right to.

It's not really attacking them though. It's acknowledgement that they have already been attacking us and that military force against them is permissable.

It's a commercial.

Bionic woman is something we can all agree on.

The USMC would totally not even need the rest of the armed forces to beat Canada.

Oh well. Doesn't affect me. Have fun in Iran guys.

I'm just too tired to care right now.

So true but it was a poor analogy to begin with.

In the middle of the show here and the signal in my hotel room is crappy as hell. It was decent but then out of the blue went to ****. These cheap bastards run some bastardized blend of over the air, cable, and satelite and the whole thing is crap. Can't wait to get home on Friday.

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You Americans know only how to make lame wars these days. LOL LOL DESERT LOL SAND LOL

Not even filming them in HD and broadcasting that green crap whenever you start your wars.

What a bunch of letdowns.




... on a bit less serious note, there should have been a war against the Iranian ******* regime a long time ago yet I would support that war instead of war on I-Rack. Then again, you guys can't even maintain peace in Iraq and Afghanistan so thinking that this war would actually solve something is HI-LA-RI-OUS.

The amendment does not exactly authorize an air-strike on Iran's nuclear facilities or anything.

Congress sets the rules of engagement of Iraq. It's not surprising that they have decided to authorize the military to engage with Iran when Iran enters Iraq. It's not exactly like, but similar to, the military engaging China in Korea without us actually going to war with China, although MacArthur sort of wanted to...

Hehe. Ground war with China.... Laughable.

I'm not really worried about a war with Iran. It would be over in weeks but, there is no way would could Hold Afghanistan Iraq AND Iran. We would have to just destroy their army and then pull out.

And leave rebuilding to someone else?

Mm'mm American way.

If they want to hinder the rebuilding process in Iraq why should we waste time rebuilding their country?

I dunno, you people usually tend to bomb something to smithereens - doesn't really matter if it's for a truly good cause (Afghanistan) or passing time (Iraq) - and leave those smithereens for someone else to rebuild. Usually those who didn't support the war in the first place.

And repeat the same thing every few years!

I dunno, it would actually be a lot better if you bombed some evil country to ground and actually rebuilt it as a better country instead of creating a bunch of bitter smithereen people attacking just about any American-seeming fellows with blowing boobs or pitchforks. And decapitating their heads.

You know?

How frustrating it must be to be an American voter.

We should've blown up Iran a long time ago. They will try to take over the world. That sounds like extremism and blowing things out of proportion, but Iran is full of itself. They're mini-america when it comes to nukes and middle eastern control. I still don't know how smart it is to start a war now, though.

Amen brotha.

Wait, what the ****? Where the hell are you guys getting off like this?

Of course Iran is full of itself, every damned country is, and every damned country tries to act in it's own best interests. To think otherwise is foolish.

Iran is trying to gain local dominance in its region, just like most of the other countries that try and jockey for position. "They are mini-america"? What the **** are you talking about? Put it this way, the last major war they had was with Iraq, where they were the ones invaded in the first place, where every other country was pretty much freely supplying Iraq with weapons, including chemical weapons.

That place has a right to feel like they need more power, otherwise they will be screwed over like they have been for the past hundred or so years. From the "great game", the WWII invasion, operation Ajax, the Iraq-Iran war until now, Iran's been the ***** of the area. I think it's fully reasonable they want to make a power grab, because everyone else is in a constant battle to screw them.

However I'm not saying they shouldn't be stopped because they sure as hell aren't doing the region any good by supporting terrorists and causing general havok. But don't brush motives aside when you deal with a problem, at least give them a fair assessment. Iran has a reason to have a chip on its shoulder. They have few allies in the region (and none they can count on), many enemies, and the current superpower in the world has them on their **** list.

Iran has just seen Iraq, which was pretty much just *sitting there* get blown to all hell. I'd be paranoid as hell and desperately seeking a way to avoid that sort of end game. Considering their lack of allies and the impotence of the UN, they certainly can't hope for any sort of fair peaceful resolution. Sure, they could curl up into a ball and concede every point, cut off contact with every terrorist organization they have, stop all nuclear research of any sort, and basically sit there with baited breath at the next commands the more developed countries would have. Again, considering previous history in the region, that probably isn't a very attractive position to them. Who's to say the US wouldn't pull another Iraq on them anyway, invading anyway with no real reason or evidence?

And when you say "a long time ago", how far back do you mean?

This is a blank check for military action. Seriously, does even half of Congress read the bills it passes anymore?

Iran may be full of jerks, but FDR for all his faults was right, we can't make preemptive strikes against our enemies. I think most of the middle east has gotten the message that we're hot heads who will pretty much go Rambo if they do any major terror attacks on our home soil. Even if the president of Iran is an idiot, he must surly realize that any attempt to detonate a nuclear weapon in anger against us or our allies will result in a retaliatory nuclear strike that will make his country nothing but hundreds of miles of radioactive glass. I suppose he could try to use it as leverage, but like all hostage situations he would get burnt in the end.