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Ok So Dumbledore is...
2007-10-22, 6:22 AM #41
The reason I posted this because it ISNT important news but something simply insane...

Hope George Lucas doesnt follow... Prehaps Jar Jar... no I'm not going there
2007-10-22, 7:03 AM #42
Originally posted by Lord_Grismath:
What I don't understand is why the audience applauded when the author revealed this... :confused:


Have you ever seen Harry Potter fan-fiction?

This is what they've been waiting for for the past 10 years :awesome:
2007-10-22, 7:05 AM #43
Originally posted by Freelancer:
Hardly. The law may still be on the books, but give me just one contemporary example of enforcement.


Maybe crazed Vietnam vets enforce this as well as the U.S. flag code
2007-10-22, 8:51 AM #44
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
I think Kirby will agree with me here, but the militant gays are basically looking for a cause so they can get that feeling of being in a niche. Society is not anti-gay. Militant gay rights people look for opportunity to act oppressed, and militant anti-gay people look for every instance of that so they can whine. It's a self sustaining ball of stupid. If the gay people were honest they look at the anti gay groups and dismiss them as crazy people, and give them no further thought. If the anti-gay groups were consistent, they'd realize that focusing on gay people while turning a blind eye to the fact that everyone has sex before marriage, ect. makes them hypocritical douchebags. They are also for several other fundamental reasons, and this is coming from a guy who believes homosexuality is wrong.

Basically I can't stand loud people looking for an excuse to be indignant.

I don't understand how gay rights people are "militant". They don't engage in violent behaviour and they don't use threatening speech. The same words get levelled at other minority equality groups: militant feminists, militant atheists etc, but there's nothing militant about what they have to say.
Gay rights people are campaigning to have exactly the same rights as you and I don't see why that should be a problem. I don't see why anyone thinks they have a right to push their crappy religious views on other people's private affairs. As for the militant anti-gay people, it's got to be hard for gay-rights folk to ignore them when every once in a while a gay guy gets beaten to death by a bunch of similarly minded ignoramuses just for being a queer.

Sure there's hyperbole going on, this Harry Potter thing is stupid and irrelevant, and the anti-gay guys aren't being consistent in their bible-bashing (although it doesn't make them any less dumb if they wanted to start attacking non-married couples).
2007-10-22, 9:39 AM #45
Maybe JKR said it just to piss off those that already hate Harry Potter.
2007-10-22, 11:42 AM #46
Originally posted by stat:
Doesn't Snape kill him?


HATE CRIME!!!! :argh:
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2007-10-22, 11:54 AM #47
The only gay rights activists I ever had a problem with were highschool level GSA (Gay-Straight Alliance) toolbags.


Like dudes, doesn't belong in highschool. You're all like 16, half of you are pretending to be bi for attention.

Sitting in middle of the hallway isn't getting your message out as much as it is pissing everyone else off.

You're annoying, go away.


Crap, I'm even on their side. But seriously.






And for the record, their are militant gay rights activists. They're called The Pink Panthers.
2007-10-22, 12:44 PM #48
Originally posted by Recusant:
I don't understand how gay rights people are "militant". They don't engage in violent behaviour and they don't use threatening speech.


What about Bill O'Reilly's pink-pistol lesbian gangs?
2007-10-22, 1:18 PM #49
This news really isn't that shocking.

Did anyone else get the feeling that Dumbledors brother was into bestiality?
My blawgh.
2007-10-22, 1:22 PM #50
Originally posted by Recusant:
I don't understand how gay rights people are "militant". They don't engage in violent behaviour and they don't use threatening speech. The same words get levelled at other minority equality groups: militant feminists, militant atheists etc, but there's nothing militant about what they have to say.

They get labeled that way so fundies can call themselves the victims. :downs:
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2007-10-22, 1:23 PM #51
Originally posted by Jarl:
It occurs to me that since this whole Gandalf Slash situation occured in WW2, he (and possibly his love, the guy he's most famous for killing) would both be hot.

-So there's that to look up to :)
I know, but imagine a Gandalf/Saruman/Voldemort/Dumbedoor/the guy he killed love pentagon, that'd be even hotterrrr
2007-10-22, 1:27 PM #52
who's griswold btw
2007-10-22, 2:59 PM #53
while i am probably going to get a LOT of flack for this im going to go ahead and say it anyhow...

the gay rights movement does not want to change the law to give equal rights. they want the law to be "fair", they want to be able to marry the person they love. as it stands right now, in the eyes of the law gays have the same rights as straight people. a gay man cannot marry another gay man, but a straight man cannot marry a gay man either, nor marry another straight man. right now the laws are equal, but that doesn't mean it is fair. some serious work is going to need to be done in what defines a marriage before the law can be changed to accommodate same gender marriages. example: should the basis for who can get married depend only on "love" ,this man loves this other man so they should be able to get married, where is the line in this, can a man legally marry his cat because they are in love? yes this a ridiculous question but i can guarantee it will come up. before any real progress can be made the question of "what constitutes a marriage" needs to be seriously looked into. it is not going to be easy and it WILL create intense moral conflicts. both sides are justified in their opposition to the other.

having said that, i am not anti gay, and i certainly do not condone attacking anyone on that basis. so if your going to spout off about how "your just a biggot" then you are a fool and can sit on it and spin for all i care.

cheeres :v:
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2007-10-22, 3:25 PM #54
Eh, you're not a bigot, just an idiot who really hasn't paid this any thought. Gays can't marry their partners, straights can. Marital status has an influence on a lot of laws which gay people are denied on grounds of "ickiness".
2007-10-22, 3:51 PM #55
Originally posted by Phantom-Seraph:
This news really isn't that shocking.

Did anyone else get the feeling that Dumbledors brother was into bestiality?


I definitely got that vibe. I hope Michael Caine plays Aberforth in the movie.

And Rob, high school is where it's most needed. That's the time most people are becoming aware of and exploring their sexuality. It's also the time people are most likely to be harassed or beaten up for being different.
2007-10-22, 3:54 PM #56
That's a really stupid logic, Darth_Alran. I don't think you're a bigot, I just think your misguided and looking at this semantically. Logically, if a citizen loves another citizen, he or she should have the right to marry them, regardless of what their parts are. We are a nation that does not discriminate against gender, and this means that we do not define people as males or females, but instead as individuals with individual needs. Dogs are not citizens, and thus there's no way the law could have legal precedence to marry them. But 2 men are both adult citizens that are consenting to marriage. This right is denied to them for no reason other than social intolerance and religious bigotry. The fact that homosexuality isn't natural is irrelivant, as the law does not enforce natural law, it enforces laws that prevent people from being hurt, protect their unalienable rights, and offer them the pursuit of happiness. Granting two people the ability to marry eachother regardless of their gender does not offend anyone else's rights or happiness (And happiness is not defined by comfort. It's defined as the ability for someone to be successful, safe, and a citizen) and is a direct testament to our constitution, and founding of our nation. We escaped thinking like yours when we came to America. We don't think the law has the ability to bar us from freedom and happiness, and we expect the law to protect our freedom and happiness.
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2007-10-22, 4:00 PM #57
Homosexuality is natural. It's been documented in over a thousand species.

What isn't natural? Marriage. Government. Brushing your teeth.

And I find it really ridiculous when people use "What's next? People marrying horses?" as an argument against gay marriage. It's pretty obvious that a horse, or a cat, is not a human. A cat can't say "I do."

I wonder if in the 20's, Woman's Suffrage opposers said, "What's next? Are we going to let our DOGS vote? Our toasters?"
2007-10-22, 4:17 PM #58
Depending on what you consider natural. Personally, I'm in agreement with you. Other people's opinion is that we're not animals, and we're God's favorite pet. Another group of people think that sex between two men not yielding babies makes it unnatural, which is a poor understanding of "natural." Natural order does not mean popping babies. Sexual expression, tension, and desires are relieved when you have sex with a consenting, emotionally involved person. It's population control, as well as good practice for reproducing.
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2007-10-22, 4:24 PM #59
I'd think a toaster could vote better than the American populace.
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2007-10-22, 4:25 PM #60
AFAIK It's not natural to boink a woman in the missionary position either.

ISNT DOGGYSTYLE NATURAL? SEXUAL CONERVATIVES ARE HYPCORTIES LOL
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2007-10-22, 7:52 PM #61
Dammit, I called Dumbledore Gandalf again.
I wonder how long I've been doing that.
Anyways, I meant that Dumbledore would have been hot back in ww2, he'd be, what, 20? 30? Gandalf was never hot, except maybe when he still went by Mithrandir.
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who's griswold btw

The guy Dumbledore is most famous for killing, some wizard from back in ww2 times. I dunno if it gets brought up in the seventh book, haven't read it yet, but "Killed Clark Griswald" or whatever is on Dumbledore's wizard card in the first book.

-I'll admit, I did it again when typing that response to money*bie, switched Gandalf and Dumbledore.
2007-10-22, 8:11 PM #62
Originally posted by JediKirby:
Another group of people think that sex between two men not yielding babies makes it unnatural, which is a poor understanding of "natural."

Let's not forget that saying something that is unnatural is bad is a complete logical fallacy.
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2007-10-22, 8:19 PM #63
Originally posted by Emon:
Let's not forget that saying something that is unnatural is bad is a complete logical fallacy.


I like how its the lifestyle of both super conservatives and hippies. >_>

o.0
2007-10-22, 9:35 PM #64
Originally posted by Greenboy:
I like how its the lifestyle of both super conservatives and hippies. >_>


Hahaha, Spooking good point.
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2007-10-22, 11:53 PM #65
Originally posted by Jarl:
Dammit, I called Dumbledore Gandalf again.
I wonder how long I've been doing that.
Anyways, I meant that Dumbledore would have been hot back in ww2, he'd be, what, 20? 30? Gandalf was never hot, except maybe when he still went by Mithrandir.

The guy Dumbledore is most famous for killing, some wizard from back in ww2 times. I dunno if it gets brought up in the seventh book, haven't read it yet, but "Killed Clark Griswald" or whatever is on Dumbledore's wizard card in the first book.

-I'll admit, I did it again when typing that response to money*bie, switched Gandalf and Dumbledore.


I thought he didn't kill him.
2007-10-23, 1:39 AM #66
kirby, i have to say kudos to you. you have one of the best arguments for homosexual marriages being legalized. in particular that laws should
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prevent people from being hurt, protect their unalienable rights, and offer them the pursuit of happiness.
i probably didnt make it clear in my post that all the points i brought up do NOT represent how i feel about gays. but, they dont. however they ARE issues that weather they are good bad or irrelevant Will be brought up by the populace regardless of how idiotic they are. i was by no means trying to compare a human with a dog or cat, but that issue will undoubtedly arise ind will have to be dealt with. anyhoo... that was quite a good rebuttal. :)
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2007-10-23, 6:29 AM #67
:D
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2007-10-23, 11:41 AM #68
They're gay. They're supposed to be loud. And colourful.
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