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First 8800GT benchmarks
2007-10-23, 9:44 AM #1
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=100836

If this goes for the rumored price of $250, I'm definitely buying one. Crysis, here I come!
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2007-10-23, 9:53 AM #2
/want
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2007-10-23, 10:29 AM #3
from the benchmarks it looks like theyve got hardware video decoding on there too, which im not sure the 2900xt or 8800gts/x had
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2007-10-23, 11:37 AM #4
think I'll stick with my GTX.
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2007-10-23, 1:24 PM #5
Nice, if it goes for that price. Not gonna upgrade my 8800GTS for it though :p
2007-10-23, 1:42 PM #6
I'm going to wait for the 112sp GTS. I think it's basically that core with 640MB of RAM and a 320bit bus.

That is, if it's not just a rumor.
2007-10-23, 2:12 PM #7
yeah, ive got a 8800 gts. not worth it to upgrade for 5 more fps when its already doing 40+ fps :-P
2007-10-23, 2:46 PM #8
I love technology.
2007-10-23, 2:58 PM #9
Good bye DX9!
2007-10-23, 4:20 PM #10
My machine doesn't have the proper space (or PSU) for an 8800... But from the googled pics of this, it'll actually fit in a single slot but is really long... Hrm...
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2007-10-23, 4:40 PM #11
Only about as long as my X1950.
Thank god its so thin. I can actually fit this baby in.
2007-10-23, 5:00 PM #12
After an inspection, it could theoretically fit in mine...possibly... In any case I probably won't be getting one, now an 8600 GT doesn't seem too bad...considering I've been running games on what is technically a low end card from like 2005.
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2007-10-23, 5:30 PM #13
Originally posted by Tiberium_Empire:
Thank god its so thin. I can actually fit this baby in.



thats what she said
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2007-10-23, 6:31 PM #14
Damn NoESC. I really should've seen that one coming...
2007-10-25, 12:11 PM #15
After looking at the benchmarks more closely they used an Intel Core 2 Quad. Might not be the best benchmarks out there due to the fact that the vast majority of people out there have no where near that much CPU power and DDR3 RAM.
2007-10-25, 12:33 PM #16
Uh, what? They're benchmarking the GPU, not the CPU. A good benchmark will use a specific hardware setup in order to decently test the hardware in question.

For example: you use a high-end CPU when testing GPUs because you don't want the CPU to be the limiting factor.

You use a crappy GPU when testing the CPU so that the CPU comes into play.

ETC.
2007-10-25, 12:50 PM #17
Originally posted by Denominator:
After looking at the benchmarks more closely they used an Intel Core 2 Quad. Might not be the best benchmarks out there due to the fact that the vast majority of people out there have no where near that much CPU power and DDR3 RAM.


you. don't. understand. tech.

now please, go die in a fire.
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2007-10-25, 1:10 PM #18
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
Uh, what? They're benchmarking the GPU, not the CPU. A good benchmark will use a specific hardware setup in order to decently test the hardware in question.

For example: you use a high-end CPU when testing GPUs because you don't want the CPU to be the limiting factor.

You use a crappy GPU when testing the CPU so that the CPU comes into play.

ETC.


Exactly. So most people out there who still use the old 939 socket, or are using a single-core am2 socket, aren't getting the power they would because they might be bottlenecking their GPU. Vista itself is a demanding OS. If I was using the average CPU a gamer has, I would experience slower frame rates.

Basically I'm just saying, if you're the kind of gamer who has a mid-range system, with lower specs, don't expect the same performance, you'd have on that system. Also the AI, sound, physics, etc are all still controlled by the CPU.
2007-10-25, 2:11 PM #19
but what does that have to do with the benchmarks?

If they benchmarked on a system where the CPU was the bottleneck then all the GPUs would perform almost identically.
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2007-10-25, 3:11 PM #20
Ummm. X1950 pro FTW!!!!!

i wish i had an 8800 :(
2007-10-25, 3:12 PM #21
Heh, I have an X1950 pro too.
(So do i)
2007-10-25, 3:14 PM #22
You also own an X1950, that you own?
2007-10-25, 3:22 PM #23
Yes.
2007-10-25, 3:33 PM #24
Originally posted by Denominator:
Exactly. So most people out there who still use the old 939 socket, or are using a single-core am2 socket, aren't getting the power they would because they might be bottlenecking their GPU. Vista itself is a demanding OS. If I was using the average CPU a gamer has, I would experience slower frame rates.

Basically I'm just saying, if you're the kind of gamer who has a mid-range system, with lower specs, don't expect the same performance, you'd have on that system. Also the AI, sound, physics, etc are all still controlled by the CPU.


Do you even understand what a benchmark is?

It's not to tell you what performance YOU can expect, it's to tell you which card will serve you better.
2007-10-25, 4:12 PM #25
Yeah, the purpose of the benchmarks is to compare yes, but still looking at them it's almost an unfair. I mean does anyone really think a lesser CPU will bottleneck? It's good for comparison, but for realistic frame rates, it doesn't hit home to reality.

Benchmarks serve TWO purposes. Yes one is to compare, but one is also t assess the relative performance of an a component is a realistic environment.
2007-10-25, 5:56 PM #26
Originally posted by Denominator:
Yeah, the purpose of the benchmarks is to compare yes, but still looking at them it's almost an unfair. I mean does anyone really think a lesser CPU will bottleneck? It's good for comparison, but for realistic frame rates, it doesn't hit home to reality.

Benchmarks serve TWO purposes. Yes one is to compare, but one is also t assess the relative performance of an a component is a realistic environment.


No, you're totally wrong.

All they are doing is comparing which video card is better. That's it. Nothing more.

Testing the video card on a "midrange" system would not be an accurate representation of the capabilities of the cards, which is the only goal of the benchmark. They are not testing the capabilities of the system, they're testing the capabilities of the card

They aren't listing "realistic" framerates, they're listing what those cards achieved on that system. The framerates are only used as a way of measuring the difference between the two.

The fact that you believe they should do otherwise scares me, and flies in the face of nearly every benchmark, ever.
2007-10-25, 7:25 PM #27
I don't even care about these bench marks.
It's fast, cheap and DX10. The only reason i don't want to upgrade is because Valve seems to **** over nVidia owners with free stuff.

But thats hardly a reason, Wonder if ATi will have a HD2950 Pro or something.
2007-10-25, 7:48 PM #28
/facepalm
2007-10-25, 8:11 PM #29
Originally posted by Denominator:
Yeah, the purpose of the benchmarks is to compare yes, but still looking at them it's almost an unfair. I mean does anyone really think a lesser CPU will bottleneck? It's good for comparison, but for realistic frame rates, it doesn't hit home to reality.

Benchmarks serve TWO purposes. Yes one is to compare, but one is also t assess the relative performance of an a component is a realistic environment.


Anybody with half a brain that has learned ANYTHING about computers will realize that lesser components will hold back the entire system. Reviews are NOT about telling you what a card would do in your system, there is not a single Computer review like that from any reputable reviewing site. Reviews are simply to tell you which component is faster, thats it, nothing more. And you will find that good reviews will review what will show which areas a certain component will preform the best at.

Where on earth did you get the Idea that reviews where meant to tell you how something will preform in your machine? Sounds like you tried to upgrade to a Core 2 Duo system will still clinging on to your Geforce 2, and then you complain that Oblivion is running slow and someone should have done a review of a Geforce 2 with a Core 2 duo because there is no way you could have known that your GPU was holding you back.

So here is the challenge, you say that reviews are supposed to tell you how a card will preform in your system, Go, find any review within the last 10 years that actually does that, good luck in your quest.
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2007-10-25, 8:14 PM #30
I wonder what frame rate I could get in counter strike....
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2007-10-25, 8:38 PM #31
Originally posted by NoESC:
thats what she said to carpking


Fixed.
2007-10-25, 9:10 PM #32
im happy with my 8800 gtx
2007-10-25, 10:16 PM #33
Originally posted by Denominator:
I mean does anyone really think a lesser CPU will bottleneck?

Yes, everyone, including chimpanzees, bonobos, and trained seals.

Except for you.
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2007-10-25, 11:07 PM #34
Originally posted by Denominator:
Exactly. So most people out there who still use the old 939 socket, or are using a single-core am2 socket, aren't getting the power they would because they might be bottlenecking their GPU. Vista itself is a demanding OS. If I was using the average CPU a gamer has, I would experience slower frame rates.

Basically I'm just saying, if you're the kind of gamer who has a mid-range system, with lower specs, don't expect the same performance, you'd have on that system. Also the AI, sound, physics, etc are all still controlled by the CPU.


Glad to see you haven't really learned anything since you were ousted for being a tard.
2007-10-26, 7:05 AM #35
Jesus denominator even i know that a crap CPU will bottleneck.

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