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Fastest fictional spacecraft
2007-10-30, 6:13 PM #41
Originally posted by kyle90:
So you've got 2 different speeds right there, and how do you compare that to something like an Alcubierre warp drive, with which both clocks would measure roughly the same amount of time, but that time could be, say, a month?


I know at least in Star Wars that time dilation fields are used within the craft such that the time "spent" inside equals that of the time according to realspace.
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2007-10-30, 7:20 PM #42
Originally posted by Rob:
For a fairly obese geekanerd you sure aren't up on your starwars.

I sentence to you 30 minutes listening to fanboy from Freakazoid.



That was a stupid rationalization from a horrendously crappy book. I got what was probably the only 100 A+ out of a class thirty kids in AP Lit by doing an oral report on how much that book sucked.
2007-10-30, 8:58 PM #43
Stargates allow a person to travel to another planet within a few seconds of stepping through.

Other Stargate speeds:
- I imagine intergalactic travel through a Stargate takes slightly longer than interstellar. (SGA 1x01) It's never stated how long, however the "McKay-Carter gate bridge" in SG Atlantis (SGA 3x??) between the Milky Way and Pegasus takes 30 minutes travel time with multiple gates linked together into a chain. Presumably a direct link would be shorter.
- In Stargate SG-1, our heroes once made a hyperspace jump out of a system with a sun going nova (which they had caused) and somehow getting caught in the tail end of the explosion sent them into another galaxy in the space of a minute or so. (SG-1 ?x?? somewhere in the middle of the series)
- As for INTENDED speed, they get back once the replicators modify the ship's engines to travel back within days .
- ZPM enhanced B-304 (Daedalus) can go between the Milky Way and Pegasus in 4 days. Without the ZPM the trip takes 2 weeks (I think). (SGA 2x01)
- Jack O'Neill used the knowledge of the Ancients to enhance a Goa'uld Cargo Ship's hyperdrive (SG-1 7x22). SG-1 later used it to travel to the Asgard home galaxy within 2 weeks. (SG-1 8x??)

...

Why yes, I do like Stargate.

2007-10-30, 9:06 PM #44
Don't we all?
2007-10-30, 9:14 PM #45
Originally posted by kyle90:

Though to be truthful I'm not actually aware of any fiction that uses the "huge linear mass driver" approach to interstellar travel.

(P.S. Yes obviously one of these ships would not be much good without another matching accelerator at the other end to slow it down again.)


Why yes, in fact there is. In Variable Star, a Spider Robinson novel based on the notes of Robert A. Heinlein, such a ship is used to travel to a planet 40 light years away. they accelerated at a steady 1/3g taking twenty years to reach a top speed of .998(something)c, at which point the ship would flip over...somehow, i forget exactly what was stated, then decelerate for the next twenty years.
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2007-10-30, 10:43 PM #46
The Delta Flyer (Star Trek: Voyager) once reached Warp 10, at which point it existed simultaneously in every point of the universe. Infinite speed.

Andromeda uses Slipstream drives which allow you to tunnel to any point in the universe, depending on your knowledge of the destination and the force of your will.

Wing Commander uses jump drive which allows an instaneous teleport between specific, linked jump points.

Various games, notably the X series, Starlancer, Freelancer and Eve Online use Warp Gates, which allow instantaneous travel between linked gates.

Battlestar Galactica's FTL drive allows instant travel to any point in the universe, limited only by the navigational computer's ability to calculate the destination.

Dune's space folding drive allows instant travel to any point in the universe, limited only by the navigational computer's or navigator's ability to calculate the destination. This is accomplished through the use of spice melange, which actually allows the navigator to see the result of the jump before it happens.

Pick one, they're all infinity speed.
2007-10-30, 11:54 PM #47
The one that involves drugged up pilots seeing the future is obviously the best. >_>

o.0
2007-10-31, 6:53 AM #48
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
That was a stupid rationalization from a horrendously crappy book. I got what was probably the only 100 A+ out of a class thirty kids in AP Lit by doing an oral report on how much that book sucked.


Highschool never counts for anything, busy bee tunnel vision boy. Not everyone spends all their time in highschool working on good grades with smiley faces home for momma to pin on the fridge.
2007-10-31, 7:05 AM #49
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Pick one, they're all infinity speed.


Yeah, well, the Fastotron is infinity speed times a million
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2007-10-31, 7:15 AM #50
Fastotron actually gets there before it was even built.
2007-10-31, 8:52 AM #51
Originally posted by Rob:
Highschool never counts for anything, busy bee tunnel vision boy. Not everyone spends all their time in highschool working on good grades with smiley faces home for momma to pin on the fridge.


I got a good grade because my report was hilarious. I put enough effort into high school to prepare me for engineering, and while not much, I still managed to get A's. It doesn't exactly take a monumental effort to get A's in high school.

At least I didn't have to make sure my grades are low so I can still be cool in front of my douche bag friends. Because then I'd just be a tool.
2007-10-31, 4:57 PM #52
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
I got a good grade because my report was hilarious. I put enough effort into high school to prepare me for engineering, and while not much, I still managed to get A's. It doesn't exactly take a monumental effort to get A's in high school.

At least I didn't have to make sure my grades are low so I can still be cool in front of my douche bag friends. Because then I'd just be a tool.


It's high school, you shouldn't have to put any effort into it at all.
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2007-10-31, 5:31 PM #53
It was really hard to get all nearly failing grades but still graduate.
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2007-10-31, 5:52 PM #54
Originally posted by Darkjedibob:
It's high school, you shouldn't have to put any effort into it at all.


Thank you parrot boy.
2007-10-31, 6:18 PM #55
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
Thank you parrot boy.


He probably meant home school.
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2007-10-31, 6:30 PM #56
Ludicrous speed.
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2007-10-31, 6:59 PM #57
Originally posted by Spook:
He probably meant home school.


No, I meant regular high school.
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2007-11-01, 6:27 AM #58
i dont know, in sg1 when apophis's ship got modified by replicators, it traveled intergalactic distances in a matter of minutes. but i would have to say that the tardis is the fastest as it doesnt even exist in regular spacetime
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2007-11-01, 6:39 AM #59
Originally posted by Jon`C:
The Delta Flyer (Star Trek: Voyager) once reached Warp 10, at which point it existed simultaneously in every point of the universe. Infinite speed.


But if that's infinite speed, how can you travel faster than warp 10?

[See Star Trek 4.]
nope.
2007-11-01, 6:04 PM #60
Originally posted by Baconfish:
But if that's infinite speed, how can you travel faster than warp 10?


Quote:
[See Star Trek 4.]


Quote:
Star Trek 4


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2007-11-01, 6:12 PM #61
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
douche bag friends.


Atleast I had friends in school. :neckbeard:
2007-11-01, 6:51 PM #62
Well if you weren't a douche bag yourself, you'd have made friends who aren't douche bags, like I did. Oh and note my use of "friends" in the plural. It's not uncommon for people to make more than one friend if their personality allows people to stand being around them.

(Just to be serious for sec, you aren't being serious are you? Because if you are, I don't want participate.)
2007-11-01, 6:54 PM #63
Originally posted by Baconfish:
But if that's infinite speed, how can you travel faster than warp 10?

[See Star Trek 4.]

The Fastotron is in every point in space AND time.
Twice.
2007-11-01, 7:04 PM #64
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Star Trek "Even More Non-Canon Than Star Trek 5 Because It's A Lighthearted Situational Comedy With A Preachy Environmentalist Message" 4

Ignore the previous idea because the medium had some preachy stuff?

My question still stands. :P
nope.
2007-11-01, 7:14 PM #65
Originally posted by Baconfish:
But if that's infinite speed, how can you travel faster than warp 10?

[See Star Trek 4.]


Star Trek has been inconsistent on that. I don't believe they exceed 9.x in ST4 though.

There is an episode in TOS where some aliens modify the Enterprise to achieve warp 11 so they can take it to their home galaxy (of course they're stopped)/

At the end of TNG, the Enterprise-D 25 years in the future (in the very last episode) could cruise along at warp 13. I got the impression that was their standard travel speed, and not a top speed.

It was only in Voyager where warp 10 was redefined as infinite speed.

It actually resolves a problem. If Warp 1 is the speed of light, one assumes Warp 2 is two times, and so on. Even at 9 times the speed of light, it still would takes you a heck of a long time to reach the nearest star.

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/KathrynTam.shtml

Half a year, in fact.

The shows aired weekly, and so the impression is the Enterprise (TOS or TNG) can easily travel between stars in that amount of time, and even less.

Saying Warp 10 is actually much much faster than 10 times the speed of light also resolves that sticky problem without retconing most of the past series.

2007-11-01, 8:09 PM #66
Originally posted by The Mega-ZZTer:

It actually resolves a problem. If Warp 1 is the speed of light, one assumes Warp 2 is two times, and so on. Even at 9 times the speed of light, it still would takes you a heck of a long time to reach the nearest star.



Actually if you were the one going the speed of light, travel would to any point in the universe would be instantaneous from your perspective. The distance you traveled would simply determine the amount you also jumped forward in time.
2007-11-02, 5:23 AM #67
Originally posted by The Mega-ZZTer:
warp


The original warp scale is an exponential curve defined by the function s = w^8 * c, where s is speed, w is the warp factor and c is hurr.

They changed the scale, largely to block the writers' penchant for warp factor inflation. The in-series explanation is that the federation's understanding of warp technology had improved. The new scale is based on the warp power utilization curve, which has a mini-asymptote just before each integer warp factor, and a larger one between the first and second transwarp domains. In effect, the future Enterprise-D that can cruise at Warp 14 is actually moving at Warp 9.999999998 but is using much less power to do so. It's like changing gears on a car. And the 10th gear is 800 pounds and rusty.

I'm one of the few people who have this opinion, but I believe the Excelsior's transwarp tests were successful, and transwarp drive and the new warp scale were made standard throughout Starfleet very quickly. Not to mention the fact that the original Enterprise-A bridge set had Transwarp Drive readouts and the warp scale was changed to max out at 10, like, right after the Excelsior transwarp trials between Star Trek 3 and 4. Unlike Borg transwarp and Voyager transwarp the Excelsior transwarp wasn't a significantly different technology from that of other starships so it was probably just renamed 'warp.'
2007-11-02, 5:47 AM #68
/me mentions the Voyager episode where they achieve Warp 10
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