No.

[This message has been edited by Jaiph (edited July 29, 2004).]

/me pisses pants

-- SavageX

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http://geocities.com/savagex378

Is it... is it legal?

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yuo its legal...and a full cd-rip version!

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...abandonware is not technically legal so please don't go posting links here.

I find it strange this site seems to claim it IS abandonware anyway when you can pick up System Shock 2 in the bargain bin of every EB near where I live (I got it there a few months ago). Not old copies, new ones...not very 'abandoned' if you ask me.

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[This message has been edited by Jaiph (edited July 29, 2004).]

What a horrible download rate... I'm getting only 33.4 kb/sec. I usually get 150 on average. This website must have some lame servers set up for this or too many are downloading it.

-- SavageX

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"...and if you don't like that, then you need to be slugged in the face repeatedly, until my hands are soaked in blood. Have a nice day!"
http://geocities.com/savagex378

the severs may be lame but hey..its free!

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It is generally inadvisable to eject directly over the area you just bombed.
When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend.
Join the Army, Go to distant lands, meet interesting people, kill them!

Don't draw fire, it irritates the people around you.
Intel: We put the 'um...' in Pentium

Jeff beat me to this thread, so I dont know what shorty posted, but I very much doubt its legality.


Not that it matters in the least bit...



Dont look a gift horse in the mouth.

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I'll say ahead of time that if I've made a statement aginst the rules in my post below, it wasn't intentional.

I think I saw it at the underdogs awhile back. I was going to grab it up, but didn't have the time.

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You told them all I was crazy,
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If they were offering System Shock 1, /then/ i would get excited, as that doesn't seem to exist anymore

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System Shock

This is surely abandoneware as have never seen System Shock one one sale.

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Well, I decided to evaluate the site a bit and discovered that it the site is one of those "abandon-ware" sites that showcase a bunch of old games that are considered "underdogs". Not all the games they show are downloaded, just a few are. All of the games that are downloadable are CD-rips so they most likely aren't legal. They reasoning for offering them is that they are "abandonware" and that they aren't for sale anymore. As Jaiph pointed out, that isn't exactly true with some of the games available there so Jaiph made the right decision to remove imsoshort's link to the game's download.

Anyway, I was successful in downloading the game it is seems to be the full game of ss2. It's a CD-Rip so it had to reconstruct the game files and doesn't install the game via a install file.

-- SavageX

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"...and if you don't like that, then you need to be slugged in the face repeatedly, until my hands are soaked in blood. Have a nice day!"
http://geocities.com/savagex378

It's a shame not that many people caught on to SS2, such a freaking awesome game.

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Yeah, System Shock 2 is indeed great. Even though I prefer Deus Ex.

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<landfish> FastGamerr > Satan

Too bad the version there doesn't seem to work.

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<landfish> FastGamerr > Satan

Consider yourself lucky, I'm only getting 15kb/sec.

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http://www.sporkaudio.com

guess what...Micro **** thinks that its performing an illegal opperation. i bet it is BUT LET ME HAVE MY GODDAMN GAME!!!
god i hate microcrap now...grrr

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It is generally inadvisable to eject directly over the area you just bombed.
When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend.
Join the Army, Go to distant lands, meet interesting people, kill them!

Don't draw fire, it irritates the people around you.
Intel: We put the 'um...' in Pentium

Calme-toi.

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...ok.....

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The Massassi JO/JA Single Player contest info

I could make all sorts of comments on that, but I'm not. It'd only get me in trouble and start a fight of some sort. Oh, and just so you know, only one of the about 10 comments I have has anything to do with Linux.

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Put me in the hospital for nerves and then they had to commit me,
You told them all I was crazy,
They cut off my legs now I'm an amputee, God damn you.
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Frogblast the Vent-Core!

If Abandonware links are wrong here why do Underdog links seem to be allowed?

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Have you forgotten ...

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America, home of the free gift with purchase.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean, Wookie, but some games like Shock 2 go up and down periodically at HOTU. When somebody finds a buy link the download is removed.

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-MBeggar

SS and SS2 aren't designed for the 2000/XP kernel. Good luck trying to run it, but I do hear it works in compatability mode.

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Moo.

I know that not all games shown on The Underdogs are available for download from that site however most are and I'm assuming that they don't own the rights to distribute them. I like the site and download from it. It just doesn't seem consistent to allow links from one site that isn't authorized to distribute programs over another. Actually I think it was one of your posts that first turned me on to the site. I always meant to thank you for that. Fat chance now.

Just kidding. Thanks!

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Have you forgotten ...

Okay, now you're *totally* screwing with my mind.

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-MBeggar

Actually Fett, I was able to get the game to run fine. At first it didn't work because of a directX error but after downloading the latest version of the GeForce drivers (the latest came out a few days ago), the game runs fine. However, there is a sound bug in which you have to go into the sounds options and run the sound test with hardware sound off before the sound would work. Also, you have to run the game with an extra command line for it to run in Windows 2k/xp. That command line can be found in the readme.

-- SavageX

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"...and if you don't like that, then you need to be slugged in the face repeatedly, until my hands are soaked in blood. Have a nice day!"
http://geocities.com/savagex378

Hmm. SS2 works fine here on 2k, as do Thief and Thief 2. The problem with Thief (and, possibly, SS2) is that the setup program is not designed to work under NT, and will abort, because 2k is recognised as NT. If you add the paramater "-lgntforce" to the setup program then it should work fine.

I have heard that there are other issues, which can be solved by setting compatability mode, but I've never experienced them. Of course, I've had enough experience with computers to know that this doesn't mean they don't exist for everyone!

Well, I could be wrong but it seems to me you may have posted a link to the underdogs on TACC. Either way, I have no personal grudge against you despite your tendancy to go out of your way to bust my chops. I'm simply trying to demonstrate that to you.

Wasn't it you that has linked to the site several times in the past in various discussions?

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Have you forgotten ...

well, technicaly, it is.



serves you right for trying to run a cd rip warze.



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SS2 works fine for me but since my computer has hyper-threading I did need to jump through some hoops. The engine SS2 uses does NOT like hyperthreading and you have to set the game 'process' to use only one virtual cpu.

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The local EB around here does not have a bargain bin. You *cannot* find System Shock 2 around here anywhere. I have looked.

god now another of MY [!not!sajns!]gets turned into a debate....crap i feel like sajn

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It is generally inadvisable to eject directly over the area you just bombed.
When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend.
Join the Army, Go to distant lands, meet interesting people, kill them!

Don't draw fire, it irritates the people around you.
Intel: We put the 'um...' in Pentium

SS1 runs brilliantly for me. Though i did have to get an updated third-party executable because the original is a bit wonky about trying to use memory it hasn't allocated and then crashing and such. Only issue is can't get music to work yet, sound runs fine. And this is just running it from a command prompt in xp. Tried running it in dosbox but no matter what i tried it was slow as heck there.

CD version running in 640x480 actually looks Rather Good.
>.>
<.<

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[This message has been edited by Dormouse (edited July 31, 2004).]

I dunno. I might have. Probably (I like that site).

Oh, and I don't mean to be all down on your chops. I only really see you in political threads, though (and I only post in the political threads that get me pissed off enough to yell back. So it's a no-win situation). I'm sure you're a decent fellow.

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"Look at me! I'm Tracer! BLAHBLAHBLAH!"

-MBeggar

[This message has been edited by Tracer (edited July 31, 2004).]

Do you guys think Abandonware is immoral?

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A thirty-two bit extension and GUI shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit microprocessor and sold by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition."

Tracer has posted a think to HotU here. And? No one complained. Except now.

Damn you.

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<landfish> FastGamerr > Satan

No. And Underdogs is pretty good about it. If companies ask to have their games taken down, they go down. If a buy link is found, download links are removed.

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"Look at me! I'm Tracer! BLAHBLAHBLAH!"

-MBeggar

Well I can't get hold of it here in the UK as far as I know...

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I bought it ages ago, and in the last week I've tried to download it 4 times, and each time I've got an incomplete!!! Aaah!!

(I lost my CD moving between 3 houses)

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