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Help me Massassi, you're my only hope
2008-01-21, 6:49 PM #1
So I just built a new rig with dual 8800 GT cards, and now I can't get Jedi Knight to run with 3d acceleration... works fine without accel, but you can see how this is a problem.

I've tried running it both with and without SLI, so that's not the problem (or rather, it's not the solution...) Has anyone else had this problem and/or found a way around it?

Oh, and no I haven't tried any updates to JK yet as I'm not sure what'll help. I don't want to install a bunch of things that aren't needed yet.
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2008-01-21, 7:58 PM #2
Just get another PC, you will probibly be able to find some Windows 98 in a dupster somewhere.

Only a person lame enough as me would get such a giggle out of the " Help me, your my only hope"
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2008-01-21, 8:09 PM #3
Doh, completely forgot to mention... helpful recommendations only please :P

Also, tried different resolutions and backbuffering in memory. Nothing worked yet.
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2008-01-21, 8:17 PM #4
For me, I just copied all the JK files from one computer to this new laptop (Quadro 570M). Never installed anything, and it works fine.

Not sure if that helped.
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2008-01-21, 8:24 PM #5
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2008-01-22, 8:52 AM #6
Try the latest JK Unofficial Patch. It includes LEC's JK v1.01 update that fixes video problems with some video cards.

:)
2008-01-22, 8:59 AM #7
Personally, I recommend that you move on to better games and stop living in the past. :P

Edit : And yes this is useful, because living in the past is not a healthy thing to do.
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2008-01-22, 9:01 AM #8
Originally posted by ZeqMacaw:
Try the latest JK Unofficial Patch. It includes LEC's JK v1.01 update that fixes video problems with some video cards.

:)


The JK v1.01 update only fixed joystick issues.

If you're running Vista, and you get a black screen when you get ingame, alt tab out then tab back in. Works for me.

Other solution: Get Win98, and install it on MS's VirtualPC software (free).
2008-01-22, 7:27 PM #9
Originally posted by ZeqMacaw:
Try the latest JK Unofficial Patch. It includes LEC's JK v1.01 update that fixes video problems with some video cards.

:)


Merci, that did the trick :)
Looks like I don't need to go dumpster diving for an old comp :P and I can keep living in the past!

btw, I love this new rig :D it ran the crysis demo at full settings. I only had to turn down AA a little when I could see the entire island/many trees. And even then, I didn't turn it off so it was still pretty :D Now that it can even run JK, it's a beauty ;)
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Jack: "Why not!"
2008-01-22, 7:41 PM #10
I have an 8800GT and I can confirm that I also have this problem. The only possible solution I could think of is to try older drivers, in the hopes that one of them will fix it.
2008-01-22, 8:32 PM #11
Obi, use the patch Zeq linked to, it worked like a charm fixing it. Don't even need to turn off SLI for it to work :)
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2008-01-22, 8:45 PM #12
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
The JK v1.01 update only fixed joystick issues.

No, it fixed some issues with the Voodoo 2 also.

Originally posted by Cool Matty:
Other solution: Get Win98, and install it on MS's VirtualPC software (free).

I don't think there's any virtualization software at the moment that supports Direct3D acceleration.
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2008-01-23, 11:20 AM #13
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
The JK v1.01 update only fixed joystick issues.


I take offense to this. I do not post info unless I am sure about it.

I know for sure that the update fixes more than joystick issues, because I have used it myself for video issues. Also, I have helped others fix video problems with the patch, even for those not using Voodoo 2 cards. Just so you know, the official LucasArts web site also posted that it fixes video issues:
"Q: What does the 1.01 update for Jedi Knight: Dark Force II correct?
A: This update address the problem with loss of joystick control during play with some joystick configurations and a cures a lock-up when enabling the crosshairs in the game while using a Voodoo 2 3D acclerator card."

:)
2008-01-23, 11:54 AM #14
Interesting. I have the same problem with my Geforce 8300 GS, so I too will have to try installing the patch.
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2008-01-23, 12:47 PM #15
I cant run it in full settings, but if you run it not 3d ac'd, you can still play it, good to know the update fixed it... also, my friends PC wont run the game on vista as well... alt tabbing works? I don't really know if his even ran it... he just said 'doesnt work'
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2008-01-23, 12:54 PM #16
Originally posted by ZeqMacaw:
I take offense to this. I do not post info unless I am sure about it.

I know for sure that the update fixes more than joystick issues, because I have used it myself for video issues. Also, I have helped others fix video problems with the patch, even for those not using Voodoo 2 cards. Just so you know, the official LucasArts web site also posted that it fixes video issues:
"Q: What does the 1.01 update for Jedi Knight: Dark Force II correct?
A: This update address the problem with loss of joystick control during play with some joystick configurations and a cures a lock-up when enabling the crosshairs in the game while using a Voodoo 2 3D acclerator card."

:)


Last I checked no one on Massassi is running a Voodoo 2 :p
2008-01-23, 12:55 PM #17
EDIT: ZeqMacaw was right, I should have read the post above mine.

EDIT2: Why did I start a post with "EDIT" in it?
2008-01-23, 7:48 PM #18
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
Last I checked no one on Massassi is running a Voodoo 2 :p

Well from the sound of it, the fix was not designed for the Voodoo 2, but probably fixed some other inherent issue that, until now, only effected that line of cards.
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2008-01-23, 7:51 PM #19
For some reason the patch turned my JK.exe into a non-"valid Win32 application".

Odd.
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2008-01-24, 5:07 AM #20
Originally posted by Echoman:
For some reason the patch turned my JK.exe into a non-"valid Win32 application".

Odd.


Not so odd. I know I sound arrogant, but my intention is to clarify -- the error happens every time someone does not follow instructions.

The fix is to copy the original jk.exe from CD (or your backup), make sure the file is not read-only, then run the patcher ONLY ONCE.

As per the instructions, you need to apply the patch only once on the original jk.exe, because I have not had time to make the patcher sophisticated enough to detect if it has been patched or not. (This feature will be in next release due to the unbelievable amount of people that mess this up.)

Cheers,
:)
2008-01-29, 2:15 AM #21
Thank you. Good information. I just today upgraded to an EVGA e-Geforce 8800 GT 512MB. Before I had the Unofficial Patch my JK wouldn't load. To my surprise, I forgot to patch the mother on the last reformat. I have heard of other people complaining that their 3d acceleration doesn't work and there is no fix to the new cards that they would say "do not support" it. All it took was a minute of my time and a simple google search to lead me to forums I'm already registered to. dP_Spanker and GoGeTa are two in particular that I will make sure install this.
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