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Webhosting update (and advertising, lol!)
2008-01-23, 10:10 AM #1
As most of you already know, I have been running a simple webhosting service for the past year and a half for various Massassians and friends. I do this to help pay for the server itself (Which now indirectly helps Massassi itself stay hosted!). I'm always looking for ways to make my hosting better, both for those already using my service and those who might consider it.

Well, today, I implemented something "new", ASP.net support (mod_mono). While it's currently limited to C# scripts (no VB), it seems to work well enough and I'm sure it'll be enticing. This also means that my server is now running PHP5 AND ASP.net, something that almost no host out there offers.

Also, in the past couple weeks, I have upgraded the server's other software, namely PHP, Apache, and MySQL. Apache is now 2.2 (from 1.3.33), PHP is now 5.2.5 (from 5.2.3), and MySQL is now 5.0 (from 4.1).

Anyway, I just wanted to use this thread to announce this to those who are already hosted with me, as well as those who are looking for hosting. To reiterate, my service offers:

1GB disk space
20GB bandwidth/month
PHP5 (Latest), MySQL 5, mod_mono ASP.net (C# only)
Unlimited Emails/addon domains (on request)/subdomains/FTP accounts
Usual 99.9% uptime
SSH access
CPanel (latest, with a much improved interface)

$5/month (Paypal only)

In closing, I hope those of you already using my service continue to enjoy it (and hopefully tell your friends! :ninja:), and that some of you might consider my service. I wish I made a profit off of this, but I don't. I'm just hoping to break even. So remember, if you sign up, you're indirectly keeping Massassi alive :p

Thanks for reading.
2008-01-23, 10:16 AM #2
Not a bad deal at all...

I think i pay ~$10/mo for 1TB space, 10xxTB of bandwidth, and some other junk... I barely use it. I only got that good of a deal cuz I know a guy anyways. I wish I could find more to do with mine... the site i WAS running has flopped (car club... people lost interest after my wreck)
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2008-01-23, 10:46 AM #3
Originally posted by KOP_AoEJedi:
Not a bad deal at all...

I think i pay ~$10/mo for 1TB space, 10xxTB of bandwidth, and some other junk... I barely use it. I only got that good of a deal cuz I know a guy anyways. I wish I could find more to do with mine... the site i WAS running has flopped (car club... people lost interest after my wreck)


I think you meant GB :p
2008-01-23, 11:02 AM #4
I can personally vouch for Cool Matty's service. Sorrowind has always been a great host and very very rare did I see my wowfiction.net go offline or have any trouble whatsoever.

After having two accounts with this fellow, I can certainly comfirm that its a very stable and fast host, and the support Matty offers is equally excellent.

Top-notch host for cheap.
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2008-01-23, 12:35 PM #5
Nope.. I have a T(era)B of space and I asked for unlimited bandwidth... they said 'we dont do "unlimited" but we have the ability to give more than you will ever use...'

So thats what we did.
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2008-01-23, 1:30 PM #6
About time CoolMatty finally embraced the future that is Apache2.

Of course you waited until I had fixed all the bugs that had kept my mod_rewrite definitions from working with 1.3.x... :argh:

2008-01-23, 1:43 PM #7
Wait, so like a [url]www.WHATEVER.sorrowind.com[/url] or a [url]www.WHATEVER.com[/url] site?
Think while it's still legal.
2008-01-23, 2:02 PM #8
You can buy and use your own domain (which is what Massassi does, clearly).
2008-01-23, 3:04 PM #9
Originally posted by SAJN:
Wait, so like a www.WHATEVER.sorrowind.com or a www.WHATEVER.com site?


Either. If you get your own domain name (as most do), I will host it under that domain name. If you don't want to (or can't afford the $9/year) then it'll be a subdomain of sorrowind.net
2008-01-23, 3:06 PM #10
Originally posted by KOP_AoEJedi:
Nope.. I have a T(era)B of space and I asked for unlimited bandwidth... they said 'we dont do "unlimited" but we have the ability to give more than you will ever use...'

So thats what we did.


You could easily run them bankrupt if you tried to even come close to 1000TB of bandwidth. They gave you that much on the assumption that you'd never use even 1/1000th of that >.>
2008-01-23, 3:15 PM #11
Overselling isn't a bad thing you know. People use their full allowance all the time, they just make up a tiny minority of users. Heck in one month you might use a really tiny amount of bandwidth and the next you might max out. Overselling is only bad if you are paranoid of the really small chance that enough users of the host will hit traffic spikes at the same time.

Every business takes risks and overselling is one the safest.
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2008-01-23, 3:51 PM #12
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
You could easily run them bankrupt if you tried to even come close to 1000TB of bandwidth. They gave you that much on the assumption that you'd never use even 1/1000th of that >.>


not to be pedantic, but I thin they are working on the presumption that anyone who has a large enough hard drive to use anything close to that probably should be able to afford to pay fees to directly lease the use of the cable connection, without going through an ISP.
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2008-01-23, 4:17 PM #13
Originally posted by Detty:
Overselling isn't a bad thing you know. People use their full allowance all the time, they just make up a tiny minority of users. Heck in one month you might use a really tiny amount of bandwidth and the next you might max out. Overselling is only bad if you are paranoid of the really small chance that enough users of the host will hit traffic spikes at the same time.

Every business takes risks and overselling is one the safest.


There's limits to everything. Bad things happen when you overextend yourself with overselling. Good example: Dreamhost >.>
2008-01-23, 6:20 PM #14
My hosting is plan is about expired. I'll let you know CM I'll use your services.
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2008-01-23, 7:03 PM #15
Originally posted by Z@NARDI:
My hosting is plan is about expired. I'll let you know CM I'll use your services so I can bring back ZHoH.


Fixed.
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2008-01-23, 7:31 PM #16
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
This also means that my server is now running PHP5 AND ASP.net, something that almost no host out there offers.

A lot of hosts offer this, actually. Some with mod_mono or FastCGI on Linux servers or just the ISAPI PHP extension with IIS. They aren't that common but it's hardly "almost none." Just thought I'd say that.

You should add Python and Django!
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2008-01-23, 8:32 PM #17
Originally posted by Emon:
A lot of hosts offer this, actually. Some with mod_mono or FastCGI on Linux servers or just the ISAPI PHP extension with IIS. They aren't that common but it's hardly "almost none." Just thought I'd say that.

You should add Python and Django!


Technically python already is offered.
2008-01-23, 8:41 PM #18
What does that mean, exactly? As for Django, you need to install it for clients to be able to use it.
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2008-01-23, 9:23 PM #19
Its a good deal, next time I'm shopping for a new webhost ill keep it in mind.
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2008-01-23, 10:11 PM #20
Originally posted by Emon:
What does that mean, exactly? As for Django, you need to install it for clients to be able to use it.


It means I have python on my server, all I'd have to do is add support in Apache as far as web apps go.
2008-01-23, 11:10 PM #21
I may be looking at this in the near future. Out of curiosity, how do you identify specific sites to the IP? HTML headers? I've always wondered about that.
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2008-01-23, 11:47 PM #22
I'm going to be making up a semiprofessional personal site for myself in the near future. I'm just running it off a box in my apartment, since I'm on the RIT network it's plenty fast enough. Otherwise I would use your service CM, since working with you would be easy and low on bull****.
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2008-01-24, 12:33 AM #23
Django is literally awesome. It's the fastest way to write websites and still feel like you're writing real code (Ruby on Rails has too much magic going on).

Problem with Django and Rails is that bandwidth and space aren't enough, you need a guaranteed CPU and RAM allowance since they're long-running processes.
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2008-01-24, 2:03 AM #24
Needs discounts for admins.
2008-01-24, 2:56 AM #25
Heh, I was just saying to Zeq the other day that I would rather write JKHub in ASP.Net than PHP, but that we'd not be able to run on CM's server if we did make that switch. I've not developed for the mono implementation of ASP.Net before - I'll have a Google for anything to be aware of, and then might start using that.

Is there also any chance of getting a decent database system (PostgreSQL say? Or perhaps even Oracle (there are free versions but don't know the limitations on their use, might not be an option for production use, which this would certainly count as)?)
2008-01-24, 3:00 AM #26
Mono completely supports ASP.NET up through 2.0. The only thing it doesn't support is precompiled sites and the WebParts APIs.

CM, it's really strange that VB isn't working for you. It's kind of discerning because it suggests a bigger problem could be present. Try JScript or something else and see if that works.
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2008-01-24, 3:36 AM #27
If it was my server, the lack of VB would be a deliberate feature ;)
2008-01-24, 4:04 AM #28
i've been using cool matty's service since the beginning (i think). http://whopissedyouoff.com was first, http://inthewordsof is there and set up but i haven't done anything with it yet, and now http://davetaddeo.com is where i'll be from here on out.

cool matty has put up with a lot of stuff from me. misspelled domain names, service for a month or 2 at a time with different domain names, changing a single space to different domain names... five bucks a month is a steal.

thanks cool matty!
2008-01-24, 5:14 AM #29
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
You could easily run them bankrupt if you tried to even come close to 1000TB of bandwidth. They gave you that much on the assumption that you'd never use even 1/1000th of that >.>


Haha yeah, and I probably don't. I'm sure if I started hosting all kind of major files (mirror tons of crap for filefront or something) they would quickly cap me.
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2008-01-24, 7:10 AM #30
Originally posted by Giraffe:
Is there also any chance of getting a decent database system (PostgreSQL say? Or perhaps even Oracle (there are free versions but don't know the limitations on their use, might not be an option for production use, which this would certainly count as)?)


Ignore this. We seem to have PostgreSQL already, and looking at MySQL5 it looks like some of the features I really want from a database have been implemented, so I'll give it a chance :)
2008-01-24, 7:33 AM #31
Originally posted by Vegiemaster:
I may be looking at this in the near future. Out of curiosity, how do you identify specific sites to the IP? HTML headers? I've always wondered about that.


It's all done via domain name, literally. Apache sees what domain name you were accessing, matches it to a virtual host, and displays that page.

Originally posted by Vincent Valentine:
Needs discounts for admins.


I wish I could. This is literally the cheapest price I can give. I actually want to raise the price but then I'd feel bad (plus it'd be harder to remain competitive). As it stands right now, all the accounts combined only pay for about half of the server's cost. :(

Originally posted by Giraffe:
Heh, I was just saying to Zeq the other day that I would rather write JKHub in ASP.Net than PHP, but that we'd not be able to run on CM's server if we did make that switch. I've not developed for the mono implementation of ASP.Net before - I'll have a Google for anything to be aware of, and then might start using that.

Is there also any chance of getting a decent database system (PostgreSQL say? Or perhaps even Oracle (there are free versions but don't know the limitations on their use, might not be an option for production use, which this would certainly count as)?)


Yeah, we actually already have PostgreSQL.

Originally posted by Emon:
Mono completely supports ASP.NET up through 2.0. The only thing it doesn't support is precompiled sites and the WebParts APIs.

CM, it's really strange that VB isn't working for you. It's kind of discerning because it suggests a bigger problem could be present. Try JScript or something else and see if that works.


It seems to be because the vb compiler isn't installed, but mono's docs don't tell me ANYTHING and google is absolutely useless in this matter.

Originally posted by Giraffe:
Ignore this. We seem to have PostgreSQL already, and looking at MySQL5 it looks like some of the features I really want from a database have been implemented, so I'll give it a chance


Yeah MySQL 5 has a lot of stuff. Feel free to try out PostgreSQL though. I've never had anyone use it, for all I know it doesn't even work :ninja:
2008-01-24, 7:41 AM #32
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
It seems to be because the vb compiler isn't installed, but mono's docs don't tell me ANYTHING and google is absolutely useless in this matter.

Oh, right, silly me. The VB compiler for Mono is in the early stages. It's not supported yet. You probably won't find much on it until VB is more well supported.
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2008-01-24, 7:59 AM #33
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
I wish I could. This is literally the cheapest price I can give. I actually want to raise the price but then I'd feel bad (plus it'd be harder to remain competitive). As it stands right now, all the accounts combined only pay for about half of the server's cost. :(


You can double mine... :psyduck:

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