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Setting up an Xbox 360 as a Media Center Extender
2008-02-01, 8:10 PM #41
Because it's not DIVX. What you suggested is the equivalent of telling someone to convert their divx files before watching, which is what they would do regardless.
2008-02-01, 8:20 PM #42
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
Because it's not DIVX. What you suggested is the equivalent of telling someone to convert their divx files before watching, which is what they would do regardless.


It's hardly the equivalent. Setting transcoding software that just encodes on the fly is a lot less involving than re-encoding an entire media collection.
2008-02-01, 9:36 PM #43
Originally posted by Spectrael:
It's hardly the equivalent. Setting transcoding software that just encodes on the fly is a lot less involving than re-encoding an entire media collection.


Except that's all you're doing, just instead of doing it all at once you're doing it file by file.

And besides, it's not DIVX on the 360. What you see, on your TV, is not divx. :rant:
2008-02-01, 11:50 PM #44
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
Except that's all you're doing, just instead of doing it all at once you're doing it file by file.

And besides, it's not DIVX on the 360. What you see, on your TV, is not divx. :rant:


Yes, but you're also not making a permanent conversion either, so you still have your DivX files that you could watch on your television through Media Center if you wished, if you did not desire to use WMP11 to stream the DivX files, at a temporary sacrifice in quality. That's all. No one is getting stuck on the fact that you're technically not viewing a DivX file through your 360 but you.
2008-02-02, 7:28 AM #45
Originally posted by Spectrael:
Yes, but you're also not making a permanent conversion either, so you still have your DivX files that you could watch on your television through Media Center if you wished, if you did not desire to use WMP11 to stream the DivX files, at a temporary sacrifice in quality. That's all. No one is getting stuck on the fact that you're technically not viewing a DivX file through your 360 but you.


Me, and Anovis, and others would too, since that's the entire point.

And yes, you are making a "permanent conversion". It makes a set of cache files. Also, you have absolutely no guarantee that this method would even work, since there are a LOT of issues with it. Speed constraints, disk space constraints, bugs, incompatible codecs, etc. Finally, you're also stuck with watching only what's been encoded so far. You can't fast foward to halfway through the movie, or skip a lot of commercials, because it simply won't have encoded that far yet. Plus, some people's PCs aren't even fast enough to encode it in real time, meaning you won't be able to watch it when you ask for it. This is especially true for larger videos, like HD rips.

So yes, I will continue to be a stickler over details when the details are what make all the difference here.
2008-02-02, 7:33 AM #46
Ok, I'm sorry Spectrael, I have confirmed that you indeed cannot play DIVX files on a 360. You can however enable an on-the-fly encoding process to allow you to watch a streamed version of the file. This method works flawlessly on my setup which includes a refurbished $700 HP Media Center PC. The plugin I use also gives the option to fast forward or rewind the encoding process although I don't remember if I have tried it or not. Hope this helps and enjoy not playing your DIVX files on your 360.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2008-02-02, 7:56 AM #47
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Ok, I'm sorry Spectrael, I have confirmed that you indeed cannot play DIVX files on a 360. You can however enable an on-the-fly encoding process to allow you to watch a streamed version of the file. This method works flawlessly on my setup which includes a refurbished $700 HP Media Center PC. The plugin I use also gives the option to fast forward or rewind the encoding process although I don't remember if I have tried it or not. Hope this helps and enjoy not playing your DIVX files on your 360.


:downswords:
2008-02-02, 11:22 AM #48
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
Me, and Anovis, and others would too, since that's the entire point.

And yes, you are making a "permanent conversion". It makes a set of cache files. Also, you have absolutely no guarantee that this method would even work, since there are a LOT of issues with it. Speed constraints, disk space constraints, bugs, incompatible codecs, etc. Finally, you're also stuck with watching only what's been encoded so far. You can't fast foward to halfway through the movie, or skip a lot of commercials, because it simply won't have encoded that far yet. Plus, some people's PCs aren't even fast enough to encode it in real time, meaning you won't be able to watch it when you ask for it. This is especially true for larger videos, like HD rips.

So yes, I will continue to be a stickler over details when the details are what make all the difference here.


A cache file is hardly what most people would consider a permanent conversion since it's usually deleted. But whatever dude.

I never once asked if you could do any of those things did I? Your arguing for what is superior, I'm simply asking if it's possible. It is.

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So yes, I will continue to be a stickler over details when the details are what make all the difference here.


Oh ok. Here's some nit picking for details.

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You are not watching DIVX on your 360. You are watching WMA.


You fail at technology.
2008-02-02, 11:45 AM #49
Except, it's true. You can argue it all you like, you're not watching DIVX, you're watching inferior, re-encoded, delayed, buggy WMA.
2008-02-02, 12:00 PM #50
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
Except, it's true. You can argue it all you like, you're not watching DIVX, you're watching inferior, re-encoded, delayed, buggy WMA.


While it's true that your watching inferior video, it doesn't change the fact that you're viewing a video on your television, who's origin on your computer is a DivX file. That was the whole question. You're arguing a point to an arguement that never existed.

And it's not WMA, it's WMV.
2008-02-02, 12:13 PM #51
Typo, sue me. And I'm arguing a point that needed to be made. Period.
2008-02-02, 12:34 PM #52
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
Typo, sue me. And I'm arguing a point that needed to be made. Period.


:tfti:

I thought it might of been a typo but I noticed you used it twice. And WMA is a Audio format so you were probably just confused. Just letting you know.

Good that you think the arguement needed to be made. Pretty pointless arguement to me and to be contained in this thread, I think. Perhaps you should start a thread comparing the quality of transcoded videos and non-transcoded in it's own thread. That'd help your arguement get more exposure.
2008-02-02, 12:42 PM #53
I've been able to play most of my DivX files on my 360 since the fall update.
2008-02-02, 1:03 PM #54
I haven't. Most of mine are several years old, and apparently it'll play only DivX 5.0 and later. I was looking forward to finally putting away my old XBMC box, but I guess it'll be sticking around for a while.
2008-02-02, 1:35 PM #55
Originally posted by Connection Problem:
I've been able to play most of my DivX files on my 360 since the fall update.


Me to. I was anticipating the 360 being able to play DivX/Xvid for the longest time, it was like an early X-Mas present for me when it was updated, ha.
2008-02-03, 4:10 AM #56
Originally posted by Stormtrooper:
I finally got it working after three or so hours last night/this morning. It seems that I have to have multicast filtering enabled on the router. Someting that was conveniently not mentioned on either microsoft's or xbox's website.

Spectrael are you talking about XBMC? Because the 360 is an extender for Media Center... It would be rather pointless for a Media center extender to not support media center.
Plus, i need to use Media Center for live TV recording, so WMP is out, unless the new one can read from a TV card, but even then, I got it working now, so it doesn't matter.

Thanks everyone.


I have the same router and i was having the same troubles, I did the whole multicast filtering thing and Boom when i resterted everything WOW it poped up that extender was found i go to set it up and it starts configuring everything and there was a configuration Error, so now im stuck again, i got to test media connection on my 360 and it finds everything but connection to pc FAILS!!! Plzz help maybe there is sumthing i missed ..
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