http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/music/news/e3i29ce7ca58f3334d03346ad2dcaa23e21

Pretty rediculous... not only do they screw the listeners, now they are screwing the writers as well as the artists.

This is like a cancerous mole the industry needs to cut off.

Hah!

WHY do they need the RIAA for digital distribution? How long do you think it'll take until they figure this out?

Once someone else owns the rights to your music they get to decide how it's distributed.

With the internet how it is, and has been, for the last decade... who the hell needs a record company anyways. Costs a couple hundred bucks a year to run a website. Sell music online...for yourself?! who'd have thunk it!

Believe it or not, everyone doesn't buy their music online.

And it's incredibly hard to turn a profit on indie internets sales. Especially when all it takes is ONE DOUCHEBAG to buy all of the music and put it up on p2p.




PS, it's not free to record music and do it well. It's an incredibly expensive, arduos, and lengthy task. You have to pay the people to do the jobs you cannot do well yourself.

This is why record companies exist. However they have taken advantage of the situation.

I'd pay a cheap monthly price if I could download any artist at lossless quality. I'd also stop pirating. This is what happened when I got Blockbuster/Netflix.

It's not that hard. P2P happens with real-life albums anyway. I've gotten $300 in kickbacks from a friend's online album sales, and he even put it on P2P networks himself.



Or you could stop being a pussy and learn to do the jobs you don't know how to do :saddowns:

All you really need to pay for is instruments and maybe a mic or two. The rest is optional

Um, record companies play a huge role in marketing music. You can make a brilliant album, but getting it to the people isn't as easy as just sticking on the internet.



I disagree. Even if you could play, produce, mix and master a recording (and these are all highly specialized skills that you're probably not going to have time to learn to do on a professional level) you can't be the engineer and the musician at the same time.

edit - and I just wanted to add that this situation isn't like "Oh God, this time they're going after the composers," these kind of negotiations have been going on since people first started selling sheet music to popular tunes in the 1800s.

Cough last.fm cough.

Yeah, that last.fm thing seems to be a pretty good idea, although I couldn't find any hard numbers about royalties (IIRC it was like "you get x percentage of x percentage of the advertising revenue per song play). It also doesn't seem like the place to download everybody (i.e., you can't log on and get Justin Timberlake or somebody).

There are very few people talented enough to fill every set of shoes in a professional quality recording project.

Music these days isn't worth anything anyway.

Yea i was with a buddy and they had $1000s worth of equipment to record and it took us 10 hours just to get 1 song to sound good enough with just 1 guitar, drums, and bass recorded in sync.

And guess what? Apple wants to cut the royalties to 4%, so RIAA ain't the only jack *** around this time.



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You sir, are a freaking idiot

Indeed.

Maybe they didn't know what they were doing? With the equipment, I mean, not the music itself. You saying they were trying to record the whole song at once?

As soon as you can get stuff recorded onto a PC, (unless you're going for really audiophile-level quality, which you don't need to make a living anyway) you're more or less home free. The rest is just learning mastering, which takes work, not money.

And even that isn't a necessity, Soulja Boy was a grassroots sensation and he didn't even know how to use FruityLoops.

The music industry is about writing songs that people like (music), and making sure people hear them (promotion). You guys can call me an idiot or whatever but it doesn't change the fact that spending massive amounts of money on recording equipment that you don't expect to make back is like self-publishing your novel that nobody's heard about. ur doin it wrong



Talent is such a nebulous term...it takes skill to play instruments, and it takes skill to master music. It doesn't just happen to you one day, you have to practice at it. Succeeding in the music industry isn't easy, and if you don't know any good audio nerds and can't afford to do it professionally you have to learn to do it yourself.

But before computers and the internet and what have you, DIY bands weren't even an option.



The flip side of that, though, is that without the record label siphoning away the album profits, the size of the audience the musician needs in order to make the same amount of money decreases dramatically. Lots of indie artists are making as much or more than major label artists. Self-marketing is a very viable option.



You don't need to be. That's the brilliance of it--recorded music lets you record each element at a time if you have to. My cousin recorded his first albums by himself in his apartment with his computer, and blew up anyway. "A professional level" doesn't necessarily mean much when you can sell enough copies to make a living without a CD that's mastered to industry standards. And considering the number of impressive multi-instrumentalists out there, I don't buy that about it taking too much time to learn

I think a lot of you guys have this romanticized notion that professional = high quality, which is why you think I am a DUMB BUTT HEAD. ytc's songs are as often as not recorded pretty poorly but it hasn't kept him from making lol money

shut up idiot

no you shut up

your butt stinks

There's alot of difference between music generated by machines and music generated by real people. to keep the vibe of it you're better off doing large takes and then do some bits here and there in the overdubs.

I'm in recording currently and to have the perfect take isn't easy. nothing passes by (for me, i don't know about anyone else's work ethic...) not even the slightest chord shift noise or a note that doesn't sound how you like. Why? because in a studio you have time to do the perfect take and make it sound really good. Also, unless you want a particuliar mistake haunting you for the rest of the CD's lifetime... don't make it and do a retake.

These days you can do a CD with the right mics, a good room, and someone who knows how to drive a soundboard/DAW. but of course, when it takes time to record just one song in a day, maybe you weren't ready for studio.. (we did around 5 perfect takes a day and we did them again each of us one after the other with the track we just recorded in our headphones and a click along to it...just so we can push the microphones to their best ability)

I'd write more but you people come from too many different fields. the big game is different from the mid game and the mid game is different from the basement studio. but in the end, if you know your ****.. you can do some terrifying stuff...

What? Hah, when is the last time you saw an advertisement for a CD that wasn't "MIX CD 90s NUMBAR 4!!!!" on TV or anywhere. I never see advertisement for CDs... the only 'ads' are the songs on the radio.

[quoet]Hah, when is the last time you saw an advertisement for a CD that wasn't "MIX CD 90s NUMBAR 4!!!!" on TV or anywhere.[/quote]

All the time. When Futuresex/Lovesounds came out, there were ads in the subway. I saw a billboard for Josh Groban the last time I was driving on the freeway. Back when St. Anger was released there were TV commercials. There's even such a thing as a Kiss coffin.

All music is marketed (though not to the same degree). You may miss the ads, but they're out there.

(And as a further point, stuff that gets played on the radio is sort of promotion, but it's also the product itself.

Well the closest thing I ever see to a CD ad is either a review in a magazine, or the radio playing it. I don't really see the radio being advertising as I actually get to enjoy the full song.

I just want to point out most record companies reach out to other companies to do their advertising.

This

You don't see much advertising because most of it is done through industry channels