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Kosovo declares its independence.

I'm glad this wasn't a thread about Ron Paul.

Can anyone actually name all those little southern European countries? Quiz time, find Kosovo on a map!

Chances of that are higher when the person isn't an American!

Oh America

Actually the British are pretty dumb too. There are dumb people every where.

I hope this starts a war.

A nuclear war?

And I hope you are the first up against the wall when the revolution comes.

On the dance floor?

They should just make it a walk-off.

ron paul reLOVEution

Yeah what was up with that? Ron Paul and LOVE?

Are you making a move on Vinny?

I have several friends in that part of the world... why would you hope for a war?

I was thinking more along the lines of this.

why? would it be different if you didn't have friends in that part of the world?

Is Kosovo south of serbia? 'Cause if so, I am awesome.

No, that really wasn't my point. I think hoping for war anywhere is sick.

Tell me, is something eluding you sunshine?

What if you perceive the situation to be so bad that war is the only realistic option for long-term peace?

Weren't the crusades a big bunch of wars started by bible thumping god botherers to take back the promised land of holy holyness but really turned out to be a massive war for gold that set the stage for the whole MUSLIM HATE JESUSITE war thing we got going on now?

You know.

Just saying.

Hey. I just found this copy of Encyclopedia Galactica that fell out of the future, and it says that Vinny was the first one up against the wall when the revolution came.

They were uneducated. They must have tried to stop the spread of "the gay".

Evolution!

The crusades were started in an attempt to consolidate the large number roving bands of men left over from England and France's frequent battles and get them out of Europe so that they'd stop ravaging France and Germany. Unethical, but entirely political. They also shored up the political clout of the papacy somewhat. The French, being the retarded jocks that they were, always fell for it, but failed English campaigns replenished the supply of roving bands fairly quickly.

And they had nothing to do with the jesus or gold.

i hope this starts a thumb war

We are living interesting times.

This will, if not start a war, create a majour conflict.
While USA and most of the EU are going to admit the independency, most likely today, Russia and Serbia (which Kosovo is parting from) are highly against it. Putin has even said that Russia has plans for Kosovo, in case they declare the independency, which they did yesterday.

Russia probably refuses to admit the independency, because that might lead to other, smaller soviet-time countries attempting to part from Russia, Greece and others. Also, USA standing behind Kosovos independency, they probably will be allowed to extend the missile shield there, close to Russia.

Kosovo is a poor, low-tech country, that will not be able to survive on its own for a long time yet. They have no technology in there, or any production. Their main product is farming, which Kosovo is an ideal place for. However, they don't have much machinery for that either, it is hard to believe how primitive their farming methods are. Kosovo has asked EU to help them until they can stand on their own, and that EU will do. EU is going to send police in there to help keep things peaceful.

Kosovo has a serb minority of 100.000, which is opposing the independency completely. They have already started rioting. Also, Serbia has announced that they will treat Kosovo just as if it was a part of Serbia, and that they will never admit Kosovo to be an independent country. What this means, who knows, Serbia might move their armies across the border as they want, which could cause even greater conflicts, if not a war. We must remember, that in this case, there will be Russia on the Serbian side, and USA and most of the EU on the Kosovo side.

Oops, that thing became longer than intended to. Now, off to work.

The poorer knights tagged along to make their fortune, but most of the people leading the thing were just rich retarded jocks that like to show off how "brave" they were. By and large, the second estate didn't care about Christianity at all. During the height of the hundred years war, things like the papal schism, massive church corruption, and the plague had led a surprisingly large amount of people for all classes to question the existence of God, or at least stop caring.

did it also call him a mindless jerk?

They did it!

Nevertheless, I think I am pro-Serbia, only because after NATO intervened in the nineties and got the Serbs off the backs of the Kosovars, the Kosovo Liberation Army started ransacking Serbian property.

Nevertheless, I'm now looking at flights and trains to try to get to Kosovo within the next few months, ideally before any sort of armed conflict begins. Think about it! It would be like being in Biafra before it all went down.



Alright, FastGamerr, let's see you name all the US states and territories, and the Canadian provinces and territories. There's absolutely no reason for the average American to need to know Balkan political geography.

You're right. You're already the size of ½ Europe (or 1.5 Europe if Canada is counted in) so that's actually all the "world" you really need.

And I'm sure the KLA was just really being mean after all that ethnical cleansing that had been going on before the bombing. Man, those people are whiny.

I know where Kosovo is. I'm just saying that it's unreasonable to expect that the average American should know the location of what was until now a province of a Balkan country. Why? Because that knowledge has little to no utility to a vast majority of Americans. Unless you're an advocate of interventionism, I would even go so far as to say the less Americans know about Balkan political geography, the better, so they don't take sides, intervene, and make the situation even worse.

Can you name all the provinces of Mongolia? No? Finns!



Right, and it definitely helps solve ethnic conflicts to take revenge and kill off as many of the people and trash as much stuff as possible from the people who were killing your people after they've been forcefully pacified. That definitely solves problems.

I don't actually expect any American (or a Finn for that matter) to know what Balkan means (or contains) besides the sausage (that's solely a finländsk product, though). And there are probably millions of things that have no utility to the majority of Americans and will never have. I don't think heer Sisterbanger from Arkansas really gives a hoot about the whole Kosovo thing at all. And when he enlists into the Marines and is sent off to Iraq, I'm fairly sure he isn't bothered by calling all the Iraqis "Hajj" yet by all means that makes absolutely no sense at all. Good riddance.

And nope, I've never studied the provinces of Mongolia, but I was relatively good at geography so I'm fairly sure I'd learn that pretty quickly. And forget after that.

And finally, of course revenge-killing etc. doesn't really solve any problems. But somebody should tell that to the human race after a few thousand years of

Well first he probably joined the Army. I've only met one Marine from dear old Arkansas. He also cares very dearly about Kosovo if only because he will be sent there, but has no idea what is really going on. He will form an obnoxious, under informed opinion, exactly like is peers in all other first world countries.

Second, It's Hajji (حجّي) that is the semi-derogatory term that US service members (usually of junior grade) use in reference to Iraqi nationals. The title Hajji is an honorific used for people who have completed the pilgrimage. It's also a euphemism for old men or old women (hajjia) in some areas. Hajj is the actual pilgrimage itself.

Consider also that the term often used for Americans, which is fast growing in popularity, (Burgerboys) also makes little sense, since it does not make clear what type of burger Americans usually eat (beef).

Third, I was under the impression that Finland was heavily inbred itself? I for one don't believe it as I have seen some tasty ladies come from your cold corner of the world and hope to visit your frigid wasteland and some point in the future.

Oh and to start the lyric thread you all knew was coming;

You say you want a...

Finland is not heavily inbred. It's one of those things where I've taken parts of something that is partly true, heavily advertise the lie as the truth and see how easily you people fall for it. Works every time. In reality, genetically Finns are pretty damn similar so that while we necessarily aren't directly related to each other, some still have some obscure diseases that wouldn't be there if there had been some more non-Finnish blood a few thousand years ago. A similar country would be Japan, where the original inhabitants have also been driven to the northernmost parts.

Of course people realize "burgerboys" doesn't make sense if they're not prejudiced twats and I've actually explained my whacky shticks in the past but I'm afraid I don't have to ever do that anymore so I'll let people see and hear what they want to see and hear.

Massassi has sound?

i just love it how nobody here takes this seriously.

USA has admitted Kosovo's independence.

Hot damn.