Which city do you like the best? (the city design, not the game itself)


I was playing the liberty city mod for GTA:VC (which is basically a port of the GTA3 map to the much-improved VC engine. There are no missions, but you can wander around the map and steal cars, and thats about it. However, its still fun-- the original GTA3 engine is wildly unstable and crashes before i have time to get into the game, plus it has this awful blurry look to it even with trails off. However, when the map is rendered usign the vice city engine, the scenery is razor sharp, and it has yet to crash.

All the cars from GTA3 have been reproduced, and the motorcycles and helicopters added. I've always wanted to ride a PCG motorcycle through the tunnel connecting the 3 islands in liberty city, and now i can. it's as fun as it sounds, especially when you weave through traffic.)

Anyway, onto the point of this thread:

When the two cities are rendered with the same engine, Liberty city takes on a whole new look and that gritty feel is enhanced.

I like vice city for its sprawl and its beautiful scenery, but Liberty city had those cool bridges, plus the monorail on portland and the inter-island tunnel. Vice city had none of that, it had very simple concrete bridges that were nothing compared to the bridge connecting shoreside vale with staunton.


Liberty city seemed to be more balanced. The city seemed rather homogenized, with the most notable exceptions being on portland island.

Vice city has the feeling of being split down the middle, with the side you start on being the good commercialized side, and the other side having all the poverty and gang problems. it just didn't feel balanced.

For me, both are tied. I like liberty city for its functionality and redundant means of traveling between islands, and I like vice city for its wide open feel and beautiful scenery.



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Liberty City.

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liberty city... just because

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The locations of Liberty City had a much more... unique look. I always got lost in Vice City, because everywhere looked the same. Vice City was also too flat.

Poll: Liberty City vs. Vice City

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Liberty. Vice felt really narrow and linear in places.

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Liberty City.

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San Andreas

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Liberty City, just because I always get lost in Vice. :\

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cant wait for san andreas.
I liked Liberty map, vice cars and engine so the liberty mod is great.

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Liberty.

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Liberty.

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For the most part I like Liberty better. But Vice City definately has more atmosphere to it. I also like the way Vice City distinguishes different areas of the city with different architecture, textures, etc.

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Liberty. There was just more to it I think. Plus it had larger buildings and just more atmosphere to it. I mean, I realized when I walked into a Mafia controlled part of town..

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I guess I kind of prefer Vice City, Liberty City just looks way too redundant..

I really wish for the next GTA they'd use a different graphic engine. The crappy PS2 graphics just totally take from the realism.

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Was liberty city sposed to be based on new yrok? cuz it so doesn't resembl it atall.

(I know htere's a lot of typoss, im tired. )

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There was an actual name for the engine, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was called... anyone?

And yeah they definitely need a better engine - someone once described it as 'a great driving game with occasional shooting' - if they could make it like a proper 3PS like Max Payne when you're toddling around on foot that'd be so much better. And the cars need dashes and proper interior views dammit! And swimming, we need swimming! (And so on)

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with the exception of the interior views of the cars SA will have alkl that... right analog stick used to look around/aim and swimming

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I think Liberty City has a better atmosphere (although the one in Vice City is also very good, and also different). Vice City is probably more developed because of all the new stuff you can do like ride boats and fly in helicopters. If those game mechanics were applied to Liberty City it would be wonderful. Both are awesome though.

they had boats in GTA3, and you could fly, but there was only one plane. It was very hard to pilot.




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I still want Grand Theft Auto: Jersey City.

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Liberty. I didnt like the whole 80's thing. It was cool for about ten minutes. Plus Vice was too flat.

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Okay, please tell me, if it didn't look anything like it at all, why did you logically think it might have been based off of it?

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I'll agree, the whole 80's thing was fun for a few minutes. Then it just got old. Liberty city was must better designed in my opinion. There were just more areas to do fun things... Like ramping your car down onto the beach from the mansion... Stuff like that. I never played the Liberty City mod for VC, but it sounds really good. Cause I hated almost everything about Vice City except for the motorcycles and helicopters. Vice City is WAY too flat... And I got lost way too often. I had to look at the map every 3 seconds, while in GTA3 I knew exactly where I was going all the time. I just didn't like Vice City, it just felt way too unorganized. None of the missions really seemed connected at all. It was just like sporadic errand running for random people that buy drugs from you... And for some reason the story didn't seem to actually develop... Things would just happen and I'd be sitting here like "woah since when did that happen?" And it just annoyed the hell out of me. While in GTA3 I understood what was going on... And once the gang wars got started the atmosphere was crazy with guys shooting at each other constantly.

It just seemed like in Vice City they got too caught up in adding millions of little extras for everyone to complete. You can seriously waste time in that game doing side quests for days... But would you actually WANT TO?

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Liberty City is Cincinnati.

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What? Im pretty certain that it is New York. Even the Cop-cars were originally NYPD blue and white (you can still see this in the sliding opening credits and early screenshots) until they changed it after a certain eventful day in September 2001.

Anyhow, my choice is Liberty City. Because Sopranos & Goodfellas beats Miami Vice & Scarface in my book.

[fanboy] If Lost Heaven (from Mafia) would be an option, I'd choose that. No helo's or bikes and a shorter draw-distance. In exchange you've got a city that's a melange of Prohibition-era Chicago and New York, lovely vintage cars with really detailed damage modelling, a far better combat system, more pedestrians, Django Reinhardt laden music, a nice big countryside above the city.

A carload of angry Sicilians with three-piece suits, overcoats, coal-black hair, fedoras, and Tommyguns are just so much more stylish than teamsters with jogging suits and Ingrams in a Beamer [/fanboy]

Seriously though, you ought to give the PC version of Mafia a try if you haven't already. Download the demo. I've seen it for really cheap and it still stands out as one of the finest games that I've ever played. Don't expect a "GTA 1930", since the only thing that both games share are that they're both good urban organized-crime games that allow you to drive a car or walk in a large relatively convincing metropolis inhabited by NPC's going about their business.

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San Andreas (LA, SF and Vegas) > Jersey

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Even if that was true, it's still got that cheesy early '90s Boyz in Da Hood crap.

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Rockstar needs to forget about making their games coherant with the time era. They need to make them modern and forget about their VH1 instant nostalgia formula. Vice City is like GTA3 meets I love the 80's. Forget it. I don't want it.

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I figure that one day I'll either be famous, or in prison. But I guess if I'm going to prison, I should probably try to do something that would make me famous anyway.

I have a better idea. They need to make a game that's not GTA, but alot like it and set in the 30's.

I'd so worship that game...

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Someone already did. It's called Mafia, and there's a sequel in the making.

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Yeah mafia kicks SO much *** . I would love to see a modern take on it. That's what GTA 3 should have been. When I first read about it, that's basically what I thought it would be.

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I figure that one day I'll either be famous, or in prison. But I guess if I'm going to prison, I should probably try to do something that would make me famous anyway.

I've never heard of this game! I'll try the demo

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Hehe. <3 uber-slow Mafia cars.

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Liberty city, mainly because of the greater variance. The hills, bridges, buildings, they never looked quite the same, as opposed to Vice City. Seems in Vice if you've seen one city block you've seen them all.

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Liberty. I love chatterbox.

I also love VRock though :-\

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Yeah, hence my first comment in this thread: I always get lost.

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