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What media formats do you still buy?
2008-04-02, 5:03 PM #1
Which formats do you still buy since everything seems to be available on the internet now?

I still buy CDs, DVDs, PC games and occasionally vinyl. :neckbeard:
nope.
2008-04-02, 5:07 PM #2
I BUY THE VIDYA GAEMS.

And occasionally vidya magazines.

And sometimes DVDs if I'm feeling reckless.
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2008-04-02, 5:09 PM #3
CDs, DVDs, and PC games. I would buy more of those, and probably vinyls as well, if I could afford to (the latter of which would be a definite luxury/novelty buy).
2008-04-02, 5:13 PM #4
******* forum didn't let me add my poll.

:(
nope.
2008-04-02, 5:35 PM #5
none.. considering the CD player in my car doesn't work but I just hook the zune to it.. and my pc is connected to the TV so I have no need for dvds..

if 360 games count then that's probably it.
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2008-04-02, 6:04 PM #6
Video games, books, fortune tellers.

I'd add others but I'm lazy.
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2008-04-02, 6:08 PM #7
Movies through netflix. If other media had a wide selection with monthly payments, I'd pay for them too.
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2008-04-02, 6:41 PM #8
"High-Def" formats are retarded. I'll be very surprised if they take off strongly in any form before the next big thing. IE: I haven't bought into any of them, and I'm not.

If it's DVD's, it's box sets of a TV series. Those are rare, and I generally make someone else pay for them. IE: Christmas or Birthday.

CDs? CDs are dead to me.

Games? I haven't purchased a PC game in the last 3 years because I grew tired of the endless hassle of serial numbers and drivers. Xbox games are another story, and are practically the only physical media items I still buy.

Oh, I forgot blank DVDs. Do those count?
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2008-04-02, 6:51 PM #9
I buy 360 games, and occasionally a CD of a band I really support. Everything else I [totally legally obtain]
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2008-04-02, 7:03 PM #10
i buy paper and blank cds
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2008-04-02, 7:07 PM #11
DVDs,Blu-Rays,And whatever media the game im buying uses. I bought a floppy copy of monkey island last week :awesome:
2008-04-02, 7:08 PM #12
DVDs, CDs, and I'm subscribed to JPG Magazine.
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2008-04-02, 7:28 PM #13
Originally posted by phoenix_9286:
"High-Def" formats are retarded.


careful... joncy my bring out his die hard shots again and i'll feel obligated to back him up on the whole bluray being better than dvd arguement again

of course i got bored so here are some quick hot fuzz comparisons this one isn't some super closeup detail shot but the differences are noticable
DVD upscaled to 1280x720
HD DVD downscaled to 1280x720
HD DVD direct grab

and i buy almost everything in some form of physical media... the only thing i can accept buying as a download is the occasional video game through steam, xbox live arcade, or PSN store

movies... downloads are rarely ever straight purchases but some "rental" BS and i can get DVD rentals cheaper i won't argue bitrate on standard def downloads since they are usually using a better codec and can get away with those lower bitrates however HD downloads are always lower bitrate and more prone to compression artifacts and then there's the whole DRM issue

porn... what the internet was really made for... only a select few get purchased on DVD and those tend to fall into "adult film" category (meaning it actually has some level of real production value and story... of course 90% of them were made in the 60s and 70s and most of us know what kind of hairdos were around back then :ninja: )

music... i'm not paying for lossy files with stupid DRM... DRM free lossless would be tempting but i still like to have a CD

games... i've already said i'm not against digital distribution for games... i like to have a box and manual but these days the manuals are getting to be thinner and nothing more than installation instructions and the default control layout a few games don't even include printed manuals and the only advantage there over digital distribution is a quicker install
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2008-04-02, 8:18 PM #14
I'll agree with phoenix about "high-def" stuff. The only useful advantage about those formats is more storage. I would rather see more extra features than higher resolution.

Anyway, I buy DVDs and occasionaly CDs and PC games (don't own any consoles). Steam has convinence and I get stuff through there pretty rarely. I've never used any download service for music.
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2008-04-02, 8:19 PM #15
Originally posted by phoenix_9286:
"High-Def" formats are retarded.


You're retarded.
2008-04-02, 10:49 PM #16
Not necessarily, HD formats will soon be replaced by downloadable content. HD is awesome, yes, but buying it on a disc when you can just download it? That's debatable.
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2008-04-02, 11:07 PM #17
That's like saying magazines and newspapers will dissapear because of the internet or books will stop being printed because of eBooks. Hasn't happened yet.

Not every videophile is going to be set up for downloading HD movies, or would even want to. I'd much rather buy the disc and get a lovely box with it.
2008-04-02, 11:40 PM #18
DVDs, video games, and rarely CDs.
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2008-04-02, 11:42 PM #19
DVDs, vinyl records (not necessarily better than CDs, still rock - different argument for a more civilized time), CDs, to some degree PC games and to a very low degree 360 & PS2 games.

Bluray is definitely better than DVD but I'm not a techno-nerd so I have no need to upgrade until the prices get seriously down and DVD is truly mostly dead. Just like ~7 years ago with the VHS.
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2008-04-03, 12:26 AM #20
I still buy CDs, though not very often admitedly. Naturally I also buy loads of books, but I'm guessing we're talking about the technology mediums here.

I'm afraid that this argument for blu-ray over DVDs doesn't really work so well. This is just another 'Beta-Max' incident where Sony're trying to dominate an entire market. For a medium take take over successfully from an older one it has to offer something MUCH more than just an upgrade. The DVD is a hell of a lot better than a VHS, videos barely work after a certain amount of time, the quality (looking back) is horrendous and you need so MANY videos to match the DVD for space. Whilst the Blu-ray does have many better qualities than the DVD, it offers nothing new and the gap between the DVD and Blu-Ray isn't anywhere near as big as the gap between VHS and DVD. There's no need to change yet.

The only real advantage and only real reason I would consider getting Blu-Ray or HD would be if they released series' on them. How many Blu-Ray disks would it take to fit an average series' on, does anyone know? Of course, that would just be convinience as I doubt they'd lower the prices of TV series' just because they crammed them into less disks... >_>
2008-04-03, 12:43 AM #21
Originally posted by TheBritt:
The only real advantage and only real reason I would consider getting Blu-Ray or HD would be if they released series' on them. How many Blu-Ray disks would it take to fit an average series' on, does anyone know? Of course, that would just be convinience as I doubt they'd lower the prices of TV series' just because they crammed them into less disks... >_>


they still release series on multiple discs because 1080p transfers look best with a high bitrate encode

maybe when they get 10 layer blurays working we could see single disc tv seasons but right now they only have 4 layer working in a lab... no production lines capable of making such discs

plus SONY IS NOT BLURAY the bluray disc association is not run by any one company Sony is however one of the largest backers of the format then again so is disney (those 5 free bluray disc offers... buena vista home entertainment is pretty much in charge of that one)
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2008-04-03, 12:46 AM #22
I have the Zune pass so I don't by CDs anymore... I buy used movies (DVD) and video games though. And books.
2008-04-03, 2:47 AM #23
I buy music CD's, TV/movie DVD's and game discs (most of which I buy are on DVD).

I like digital distribution. You don't have to worry about license keys or losing/breaking discs and the game is automatically kept up to date on Steam.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2008-04-03, 2:57 AM #24
game discs.
Funnily enough I have a ridiculously large and completely legal dvd collection.
My mother is a dvd nutjob, everyone gets dvd's as gifts from her, not to mention I get her duplicates, and when you burn that much money on dvds, you're bound to get a few...
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2008-04-03, 9:56 AM #25
i still buy dvd's, pc games and occasionally cd's and books, if that counts.
on an interesting note cd's are selling so poorly that its not even worth it for the band im in to press one for the new "album" were recording, so were going to just release it free for download along with some cool artwork.
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2008-04-03, 10:15 AM #26
Uh recently I have been trying to build game collections. I'm currently working on a Mario Bros collection and a Zelda collection. Starting from NES.

I buy lots of stuff... Console games, CDs, DVDs, eventually blu-ray....
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2008-04-03, 10:40 AM #27
DVD, Video Games CD/DVD
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2008-04-03, 7:19 PM #28
Interesting that Jon'C hasn't called anyone here retarded for having a similar opinion to mine. That being that of course BluRay is technically superior but not a great enough value to make it must buy right now.
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2008-04-03, 9:19 PM #29
Originally posted by Emon:
Not necessarily, HD formats will soon be replaced by downloadable content. HD is awesome, yes, but buying it on a disc when you can just download it? That's debatable.


It depends on what you mean by soon. I seriously doubt we'll start seeing 25 or 50 Mbit lines into the majority of US homes in the next 3-5 years, especially if people start using their bandwidth. The technology is there, but the cost of upgrading the infrastructure will be enormous. BluRay's life span may be limited, but don't expect to see it phased out next year. It's here to stay.
2008-04-03, 9:32 PM #30
None, though planning on getting a netflix account for DVD movies. I splurge every time I hear Dolby sound coming out of my THX-certified speakers.
2008-04-03, 9:51 PM #31
I buy music CDs. At some point I intend to get onboard the iEveryting train and start buying individual songs (unless this thing about paying a fee to your ISP for monthly downloading ever gets worked out).
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2008-04-03, 10:37 PM #32
Originally posted by phoenix_9286:
"High-Def" formats are retarded. I'll be very surprised if they take off strongly in any form before the next big thing.


I brought this up in the last thread, but there won't be a "next big thing." Currently-manufactured Blu-ray discs go up to 50 GB, with 100 GB discs working on current and unmodified players. Additionally, many players can be upgraded to support new profiles. DVD's doom was decided the day it was invented. It was a technological stop-gap with crippling limitations on menus, subtitles and color quality.

Considering the sheer size of the disc and the continuing developments in audio and video compression there will never be a need for anything bigger unless we start recording movies to a 3D volume. We use psychovisual and psychoacoustic techniques in modern codecs so the quality improvement you would get from switching to holographic storage (3.9 TB/disc) would be zilch.
2008-04-03, 10:55 PM #33
Mmmm Holo disks.
Sounds futuristicy.
2008-04-04, 7:25 AM #34
I still buy HD-DVDs, DVDs, CDs, Blu-Rays (needs an acronym, stat! BD?) and the odd vinyl.

I'm clearly a sucker for physical media... :P
2008-04-04, 7:28 AM #35
Originally posted by BuuBox:
Blu-Rays (needs an acronym, stat!)


BD, BRD, BR
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2008-04-04, 8:39 PM #36
Originally posted by Jon`C:
I brought this up in the last thread, but there won't be a "next big thing." Currently-manufactured Blu-ray discs go up to 50 GB, with 100 GB discs working on current and unmodified players. Additionally, many players can be upgraded to support new profiles. DVD's doom was decided the day it was invented. It was a technological stop-gap with crippling limitations on menus, subtitles and color quality.

Considering the sheer size of the disc and the continuing developments in audio and video compression there will never be a need for anything bigger unless we start recording movies to a 3D volume. We use psychovisual and psychoacoustic techniques in modern codecs so the quality improvement you would get from switching to holographic storage (3.9 TB/disc) would be zilch.


I'm not sure I would say DVD was doomed. Just that it has inherrent limitations but ones that aren't deal breakers, in my opinion.

I would like to hear more of your opinions of the future of BR hardware. It is my opinion, based on your post, that BR discs (people here should understand the difference between "disk" and "disc", look it up if you don't) may endure as a medium but that BR players may not. Todays BR players, I doubt, will be upgradeable to account for possible higher resolutions. Of course, our TVs won't either. I assume we'll have to have HDMI 3.0 (or something) capable equipment.
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2008-04-05, 12:13 AM #37
I'm still willing to buy CD, DVD, PC game disk, or 360 game disk. Although I'm pretty sure that the last of those is the only media format I've actually bought in the past 12 months.
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2008-04-05, 12:22 AM #38
Originally posted by DrkJedi82:
BD, BRD, BR

I prefer BDR for Blu-Ray Disk ROM. It sorta rolls off the tounge.
2008-04-05, 2:08 AM #39
Originally posted by DrkJedi82:
BD, BRD, BR


You aren't stat...
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2008-04-05, 6:41 PM #40
Originally posted by Wookie06:
I'm not sure I would say DVD was doomed. Just that it has inherrent limitations but ones that aren't deal breakers, in my opinion.
Inherent limitations that film studios and users have been complaining about since DVD was originally developed?

Just because it meets your horrendously low expectations doesn't mean it's any good. Some people are happy watching .RM videos. Some people also have detached retinas.

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I would like to hear more of your opinions of the future of BR hardware. It is my opinion, based on your post, that BR discs (people here should understand the difference between "disk" and "disc", look it up if you don't) may endure as a medium but that BR players may not. Todays BR players, I doubt, will be upgradeable to account for possible higher resolutions.
Some will, yes. Current Bluray players can support quad-layer with only a firmware update, as Hitachi has already proven. Bluray players that use Cell already have the necessary power to decode 2160p because Cell is very good at things like decoding and very bad at things like playing games.

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Of course, our TVs won't either. I assume we'll have to have HDMI 3.0 (or something) capable equipment.
You're half right. Your TV won't upgrade itself because your TV has a fixed native resolution that is decided when the display itself is manufactured.

The connector is irrelevant. HDMI is a digital data cable with a variable clock rate. Current HDMI implementations support up to 2560x1600 @ 60 Hz progressive scan, which - in one link (and there are dual-linkage options) - is competitive with dual-link DVI. Some players will be able to handle greater resolutions with a firmware update. Some won't. That's the way it was with DVD though, remember? Anamorphic widescreen vs. letterboxing? Some discs being encoded as interlaced and others for progressive scan? Actually you probably don't remember, since these problems were already 'solved' with the DVD Forum moving on to HD-DVD by the time the Walmart $99 special came out.

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