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i hate html
2008-05-20, 5:35 PM #1
So, I haven't tried to do much web stuff in a long time. Recently decided to throw up a page for my photography stuffs, but I can't get the date for the blogish portion to work.

Attached is what it looks like in Dreamweaver vs what the browser actually shows
Attachment: 19360/Picture 1.png (4,578 bytes)
Attachment: 19361/Picture 2.png (2,741 bytes)
gbk is 50 probably

MB IS FAT
2008-05-20, 5:37 PM #2
I blame dreamweaver. :colbert:
2008-05-20, 5:37 PM #3
Post the code.
2008-05-20, 5:38 PM #4
here's the code, which i'm sure is all sorts of wrong. (i haven't done this in YEARS..)

[HTML]<table width="900" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<tr>
<td width="175" height="24" valign="top" bgcolor="#845c23">

</td>
<td width="575" height="24" valign="top" bgcolor="#845c23">

<p class="style3">new site, yay</p>
</td>
<td width="30" height="24" valign="top" bgcolor="#845c23">
<table width="30" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#845c23">
<tr>
<td width="30" height="12" valign="top" bgcolor="#845c23">
<p class="style2" align="right">may</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="30" height="12" valign="top" bgcolor="#845c23">
<p class="style2" align="right">20th</p>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
<td width="120" height="24" valign="top" bgcolor="#845c23">
<p class="style4">08</p>
</td>
</tr>
</table>[/HTML]
and the css
[HTML]<style type="text/css">
<!--
body {
background-color: #845c23;
}
.style1 {
font-family: "Courier New", Courier, monospace;
font-weight: bold;
font-size: 18px
}
.style2 {
font-family: "Courier New", Courier, monospace;
font-weight: bold;
font-size: 11px;
}
.style3 {
font-family: "Courier New", Courier, monospace;
font-weight: bold;
font-size: 14px;
}
.style4 {
font-family: "Courier New", Courier, monospace;
font-weight: bold;
font-size: 20px;
}
-->
</style>[/HTML]
gbk is 50 probably

MB IS FAT
2008-05-20, 5:47 PM #5
Perhaps this?

Code:
<table width="900" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
        	<tr>
           	  <td width="175" height="24" valign="top" bgcolor="#845c23">
              		
              </td>
              <td width="575" height="24" valign="top" bgcolor="#845c23">
        			
                    <p class="style3">new site, yay</p>
              </td>
              <td width="30" height="24" valign="top" bgcolor="#845c23">
                    <table width="30" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#845c23">
        				<tr>
              			<td width="30" height="12" valign="top" bgcolor="#845c23">
              					<p class="style2" align="right">may</p>
              			</td>
            			</tr>
						<tr>
              			<td width="30" height="12" valign="top" bgcolor="#845c23">
              					<p class="style2" align="right">20th</p>
              			</td>
            			</tr>
      				</table>
              </td>
              <td width="120" height="24" valign="top" bgcolor="#845c23">
                    <table width="30" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#845c23">
                        <tr rowspan="2">
                            <td width="30" height="12" valign="top" bgcolor="#845c23">
                                    <p class="style4">08</p>
                            </td>
                         </tr>
                    </table>

              </td>
            </tr>
      </table>


Not sure...not exactly an HTML expert and I hate CSS.
2008-05-20, 5:50 PM #6
still does the same thing, testing in safari and firefox
gbk is 50 probably

MB IS FAT
2008-05-20, 5:53 PM #7
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
I blame dreamweaver. :colbert:


Is there something better I could be using? I'm on Mac.
gbk is 50 probably

MB IS FAT
2008-05-20, 5:59 PM #8
I would tell you to use divs instead of tables, then with CSS you can put it wherever the hell you want.
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2008-05-20, 7:23 PM #9
I think changing the <p tags to <font might help out a bit
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2008-05-20, 7:27 PM #10
Originally posted by Z@NARDI:
I think changing the <p tags to <font might help out a bit


Please tell me that's a joke. :suicide:
2008-05-20, 7:30 PM #11
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
Please tell me that's a joke. :suicide:


um no.. I just tested it and guess what
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2008-05-20, 7:34 PM #12
Originally posted by Z@NARDI:
I think changing the <p tags to <font might help out a bit


that fixed it!

you sir are a hero.

and lol @ coolmatty
gbk is 50 probably

MB IS FAT
2008-05-20, 7:36 PM #13
If that "fixed" it then your whole page is written terribly. <span> would probably fix it also, and <span> isn't deprecated.
2008-05-20, 7:41 PM #14
I smell a cop-out.
2008-05-20, 7:50 PM #15
Yeah, <font> is deprecated so I wouldn't use it. Try <span> as matty suggested.
2008-05-20, 8:13 PM #16
span works too :D
gbk is 50 probably

MB IS FAT
2008-05-20, 9:20 PM #17
HTML really isn't that hard you should learn it.

It's a lot easier to control the look your going for rather than using some WYSIWYG editor. Not to mention you can usually write the code out yourself and save half the code doing it. Meaning.. I could re-write your table so that it's half as many lines.. easily. So it's more efficient, loads faster, and more cross browser compatible.
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2008-05-20, 9:24 PM #18
typically id use a wysiwig editor... and then go into the code and kick it around until it does what I want. Doesn't bother me too much.
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2008-05-20, 9:29 PM #19
I get similar strangeness, noesc. A page will look wonderful when Dreamweaver renders it, then I take it to safari or firefox and it looks like ***.
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2008-05-20, 9:49 PM #20
I just use Microsoft Frontpage.

:v:
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2008-05-20, 10:11 PM #21
HTML & CSS can stay. Javascript has to go.

Oh yes, I did that on purpose.
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2008-05-20, 11:04 PM #22
What about the Ferengi in the gorilla suit?
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2008-05-21, 12:23 AM #23
This thread hurts my soul. Please stop using 1999 web design manuals. xHTML and CSS are easier, and work better than dreamweaver on every single front.
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2008-05-21, 1:34 AM #24
What JediKirby said.
Sorry for the lousy German
2008-05-21, 1:37 AM #25
And Z@NARDI's claim of saving half the code doing it manually is a gross understatement.
Sorry for the lousy German
2008-05-21, 5:59 AM #26
i actually did write the code myself, just used dreamweaver for highlighting and autocomplete. but I haven't done this since 2002ish.

what is a good place for me to go to learn xhtml+css?
gbk is 50 probably

MB IS FAT
2008-05-21, 6:25 AM #27
my brain
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2008-05-21, 6:27 AM #28
NoESC, http://www.w3schools.com/ is a good place to look to for all of your web-oriented tutorial needs.
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2008-05-21, 6:30 AM #29
<div class="date" title="2008-05-28">
<span class="month">May</span> <span class="day">28th</span> <span class="year">08</span>
</div>
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2008-05-21, 9:53 AM #30
Originally posted by Wolfy:
NoESC, http://www.w3schools.com/ is a good place to look to for all of your web-oriented tutorial needs.


thanks wolfy, I'll check that out.

:D
gbk is 50 probably

MB IS FAT
2008-05-21, 10:21 AM #31
Originally posted by Detty:
<div class="date" title="2008-05-28">
<span class="month">May</span> <span class="day">28th</span> <span class="year">08</span>
</div>
that + 2 lines of css = all you need
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2008-05-21, 10:33 AM #32
Yeah, the last time I looked into anything web design related was around 2002. I took a web dev course last semester and there is so much that has changed. XHTML and CSS really do make everything easier, and it really helps to standardize everything. I still probably write really crappy code, but I at least have some idea of what direction to go in now.
2008-05-21, 1:35 PM #33
Having made websites in the past, people I know still ask me to make more. No one believes me when I say my methods are all outdated and antiquated.
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