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Thinking of a new Graphics Card...
2008-08-15, 10:34 AM #1
Currently running a 2 year old pc

AMD FX-62
4GB RAM
256 Nvidia 8600

Can run Crysis up til the snow, then I had to lower some stuff.

Thinking of getting this

Any other suggestions

P.S I have an 800W PSU with spare connections.
2008-08-15, 10:54 AM #2
If you are looking for a good mid-range card, I would look at the ATI Radeon HD4850; it has an excellent price to performance ratio.

The Radeon HD4870 gets pretty close to the 280 GTX for around $280 USD. I own one and it's a hell of a card.

The Radeon HD4870 X2's just came out too. Those are around $560+ USD. It's a multi-GPU card.
2008-08-15, 10:58 AM #3
hmm will have a look
2008-08-15, 11:03 AM #4
Personally im not going to touch anything above a 9800 gx2 for awhile. The gtx 260 and 280s currently have some stability issues in many of the older games. I'll wait a bit before looking into those. Also by personal preference I go with either xfx or evga.
2008-08-15, 12:53 PM #5
Is the 8800gts still considered a "good" card? cause I'd say pick up one of those.
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2008-08-15, 2:18 PM #6
The 280's nice, but overpriced compared to the 4870 which will give you only slightly worse performance. It's only 250-ish USD, which is like 180 pounds :p

Originally posted by Noyjitat:
Personally im not going to touch anything above a 9800 gx2 for awhile. The gtx 260 and 280s currently have some stability issues in many of the older games. I'll wait a bit before looking into those. Also by personal preference I go with either xfx or evga.

The 9800GX2s are horrible either way, and they sell for way too much, and xfx and evga are badsauce.

ATI is making a comeback in price:performance, which was a ratio that was seriously out of whack for a couple years.
D E A T H
2008-08-15, 3:58 PM #7
4850 is great
2008-08-15, 4:12 PM #8
The 4850 is the absolute best value at the moment. I got one recently and it is just tearing through everything I can throw at it.
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2008-08-15, 8:54 PM #9
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi:
The 280's nice, but overpriced compared to the 4870 which will give you only slightly worse performance. It's only 250-ish USD, which is like 180 pounds :p


Not too sure from what you meant from the text, but I assume you know those prices don't actually translate like that over there.
\(='_'=)/
2008-08-15, 8:55 PM #10
250 USD is 135 GBP minus VAT.
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2008-08-15, 9:25 PM #11
I just bought a 4870 for my parents comp. I can't wait to hear that kitty purr.
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maeve
2008-08-15, 9:53 PM #12
Originally posted by Emon:
250 USD is 135 GBP minus VAT.


I'm not talking about exchange rates. Their recommended sales prices are different from the NA market.
\(='_'=)/
2008-08-15, 10:35 PM #13
i hate you all with your jobs, and your money, and your graphics cards, and your computers that run fast

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2008-08-15, 10:55 PM #14
Originally posted by Emon:
The 4850 is the absolute best value at the moment. I got one recently and it is just tearing through everything I can throw at it.


I don't suppose you tried JK:DF2 on it? I get something almost like a HOM effect, the screen sorta of tears when moving. Disappointing, but other than JK its exactly like you said - an amazing combination of performance and value.
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2008-08-15, 11:22 PM #15
I'm happy with my 9600GT- paid a bit under $150 months ago...and now I see them well under $100..
woot!
2008-08-16, 12:19 AM #16
according to scientists, the 9600 gt is only like 1/3 of like the 4850
i can find
2008-08-16, 1:31 AM #17
Originally posted by silent_killa:
I'm not talking about exchange rates. Their recommended sales prices are different from the NA market.

That was accounted in, if you notice.

180 after VAT isn't so bad really.
D E A T H
2008-08-16, 7:16 AM #18
Any good sites with 4870s or 4850s, ideally with 1GB?.
2008-08-16, 8:49 AM #19
assuming you're from the UK

[url]www.overclockers.co.uk[/url]
[url]www.scan.co.uk[/url]

either of those two are good sites to buy from.
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2008-08-16, 9:01 AM #20
Originally posted by IAMSOLGATT:
according to scientists, the 9600 gt is only like 1/3 of like the 4850
i can find


I'll be due for an upgrade in a year or two...hopefully I can survive 'till then. :)
woot!
2008-08-16, 9:27 AM #21
Is it creepy that I can calculate a price of a component in britain after VAT to a degree of 5 GBPs of accuracy...without doing any calculations?
D E A T H
2008-08-16, 10:50 AM #22
thinking of this

Because thats great value for money.
2008-08-16, 11:40 AM #23
Originally posted by EAH_TRISCUIT:
I don't suppose you tried JK:DF2 on it? I get something almost like a HOM effect, the screen sorta of tears when moving. Disappointing, but other than JK its exactly like you said - an amazing combination of performance and value.

Oh mother****er, you're right. Well, you can always get a PCI card and run it using that. Or an older PCI-E card if you have another slot. Or just run it on another machine. Or wait until virtualization is good enough that you can run it through a VM. (Windows 7, maybe?)

Edit: Sige wrote an OpenGL wrapper for JK some time ago. Zeq probably has it. That would probably fix it. I think it broke several things using DirectDraw, like maybe the HUD or the in-game text, but the game should be playable.
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2008-08-16, 1:00 PM #24
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi:
ATI is making a comeback in price:performance, which was a ratio that was seriously out of whack for a couple years.


Indeed, I've noticed that too. What I'm hoping for however, is that they start sponsoring games so we see a little less "Best played on Nvidia!" which is an annoying and sad truth for many ATI users.

While its not an issue with all Nvidia-titles, I've encountered a few games that someone ran with bad framerate on an ATI and would refuse to utilize the GPU to max capacity.
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2008-08-16, 5:28 PM #25
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi:
Is it creepy that I can calculate a price of a component in britain after VAT to a degree of 5 GBPs of accuracy...without doing any calculations?


But you just said you did some calculations :XD:
\(='_'=)/
2008-08-16, 6:00 PM #26
Originally posted by silent_killa:
But you just said you did some calculations :XD:

As in on paper/calculator :p
D E A T H
2008-08-17, 2:24 AM #27
Originally posted by Emon:
Oh mother****er, you're right. Well, you can always get a PCI card and run it using that. Or an older PCI-E card if you have another slot. Or just run it on another machine. Or wait until virtualization is good enough that you can run it through a VM. (Windows 7, maybe?)

Edit: Sige wrote an OpenGL wrapper for JK some time ago. Zeq probably has it. That would probably fix it. I think it broke several things using DirectDraw, like maybe the HUD or the in-game text, but the game should be playable.


Run it on a different machine is my solution currently. I would be satisfied using the software renderer except it makes anything 16bit look like total crap. I was just secretly hoping some other 4850 owner found a driver combination/setting to make it work.
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