So I bought Warhammer Online and, after trying about 5 different tactics, could not get it to install correctly. Never even got to the part where I could enter my CD key. Really ****ing lame.

However, I decided to make the best out of it. I'm willing to part with it for 30 bucks + shipping, which is 20 dollars off what you'd normally pay.

I also have an 8800GT 256mb I might consider getting rid of for 50 + shipping if anyone is interested (getting the 512mb version). G92 core too I believe.

PM or message with offers, may not be able to respond til tomorrow or monday. First messaged first served.

PM sent.

Why won't it install?

I dunno if you still can, but I would try downloading the beta client from somewhere- it was huge like 10gigs, but it autopatches. I never installed from the CD, just used the key.

I think it's funny you're trying to sell something that you say doesn't work.

But I understand that it might for others...but still

hell I'm just in it for the cheap vidoe card, screw mmos.

It's my particular CD drive. I'm just pissed at EA at this point--I know I could figure it out if I spent hours, but I'd rather get rid of the game then pay for WoW than I would try to work around their anti-piracy bull****.

I'm sorry its not working. Its actually really fun.

Here's my character.

Mars the Mauler

(Marauder!)

I'll live--there's a 40k MMO coming out later, and that's what I've REALLY been wanting. And at least WoW isn't horrible.

Last I heard it was going to be WoW with Space Marines.

You give up easily. That's where I start walking maniacally around the room swearing vile oaths under my breath about any parties that could possibly have any vague connection to my problem.

Wow, that's sexy.

Maybe I should get this game.

Warhammer has a neat universe, if there was any MMO I would try, it would probably be a Warhammer MMO. Probably won't though, since I'm sure it will be filled with grind.

...

What? There's not a single ****ing bit of information out on the 40k mmo.

Where do you pull this bull**** from?


I spend 80 hours a week working, and when I decide to play games, I no longer want to spend 5 hours getting it to work because of copy protection. WoW, while maybe not the one I want to play, is a great mmo and you can ****ing download it from their site.

Ace in my book.

You're ****ing kidding me... is that really the game's UI? When I saw that, I thought someone photoshop'd that as a spoof using WoW's UI but if that's real...

Based on an interview article some time back with the devs, that's what it came off as, IIRC.

I have to say it is pretty cool. Warhammer is my first mmo, I feel like a little bit of a stranger in a strange land. I can't make comparisons to WoW but others have said its basically the same game with a graphical update. I probably wont end up sticking with it however, it consumes way too much of my time.

I do agree that DRM on an online game that requires an 'account/monthly fee' is just plain stupid. I am so glad I never touched the CD and dealt with the downloaded client.

It is. Sorta. I moved things around alot in the Interface Editor.

Besides, nothing wrong with using a working formula. All other MMOs that strayed from it got bashed to hell.

Plus, Blizzard borrowed from Warhammer for the general warcraft franchise, now Warhammer borrows from Warcraft's UI. And so the world turns.



To be honest, I used to say that as well. I would say, "Oh yea! Warcraft 2.0"

I now realise that people who say that are those who cannot see past the similar art styles (but not really except for dwarfs and orcs), that they both have factions, and that they are both MMO's. While one was heavily focused on the casual gamer and the PvE aspect of the game, the other is focused more intensely on the PvP. Of course, both are MMORPG's so they are bound to share several similar mechanics.

Right off the bat, let me say that I hated PvP to the bone in WoW. I simply never enjoyed the overabundance of CC and fears and stuns that plagued the battlefield. Sure you had ways to counter it, but kiddies spamming fears or cyclone were simply a nuissance. Sure they sucked and their team always lost, but it remained no fun to play. Not to mention the ludicrously obvious lack of variety over the past 4 years.

While Warhammer uses the same concept of battlegrounds, there are 4 tiers that you will level through, each with their own sets of scenarios (WAR term for BG's). From level 1-11, you are fighting tier 1 battles in 3 different arenas. Then once you hit level 12 you enter tier 2 and find yourself with whole new scenarios. Character collision detection is also used brilliantly in the game. I was doubtful of the concept after playing Age of Conan, but they really came through with a working system here. It is quite something to do battle over a bridge with 4 orc tanks lining up and blocking the enemy advance. You have variety, you have brutal action and strategy (no solo kiddies looking to score easy honor points), and whats best is that all classes can compete and stand a winning chance, while every retains (mostly) control of their characters. No fears. No sheeps. No cyclones. There are some snaring (slowing movement speed) and some immobilizing effects, but though your feet might be tied down, you can still throw spells, or an axe, or hit enemies near you.

Add on top of that the incentive to do world PvP and hunt enemies down (and by that I don't mean to gank them) and its a winning concept.

Questing and PvE is there and works nicely, if a little thinner on content than WoW is.

As for the graphics themselves, I really wouldn't call Warhammer an upgrade. The characters and armor are definatly much nicer. However, the view distance is closer and there is a really wierd blurring of ground textures that are further than 50 feet. Its not mipmaps or lack of anisotropic filtering. Its a wierd effect from their engine.

Classes (careers in this game) are very very interesting and a breath of fresh air after the similar concepts of the past decade. Each class, from both factions, have something nifty to give them style and interest. Whether its the orc tank's combo system, or the chosen's auras, or the Marauder's mutations, or the Magus' floating disc or the Witch Hunter's hat, there's something stylish and bound to hook you. They seem to be decently balanced out of the box, though of course its still early to tell.

Erm, thats it for my rambling, I really should get to work. XD

So in other words, it came from absolutely nowhere. The game's not even got a release date yet.

PS--Card and game still up for sale.

Love letter sent.

Er I mean hot sexy message sent.

Er I mean PM sent.

/me sexes.

<.<

What?!

I'm playing as Squig Herder and it sure doesnt feel balanced to me. Granted, im a noob, but if my character gets into melee range of pretty much anyone else: I die, quickly.

You're a ranged class. Make proper use of flee and pick targets. You're definatly dead if you get within melee range, but you really shouldn't be letting it happen. I find ranged classes have a long, long range in this game, so you shouldn't be having too much trouble. Of course there are classes (like Marauder) with Charge! and later Dark Seduction who can pull you to them. Thats when you hit on the Flee.

Mind you I'm not knowledgeable of the Squig, but from what I've heard from my buddies, its a great class.

You are RDPS. That's supposed to happen. Of course, from what I read both Squig Herders and their counterpart, the Shadow Warrior, are late bloomers. It's not until tier 3 and up that they balance with everyone else. The inverse holds true for the tanks and melee healers, who seem overpowered at the beginning but fall in line with everyone else later.

Honestly, anyone who says WAR is just another WoW is only looking at superficial elements of the game. In my opinion, Mystic did a great job of learning from both WoW and DAOC. They've used elements from both games that work and have integrated features that those games found wanting. I'm also pleasantly suprised by how few bugs exist at launch for this game. There are still some, but it doesn't overshadow everything else. They've also created some new innovative features as well that I think are going to become standards now. Mark my words, it's only a matter of time before WoW has public quests and open parties.

Is there a trial for WAR?

This game was pretty good in beta, didn't have time to play late beta.

How is the almost final product?

(Oh, how much is it a month?)

Its got its rough spots but I think with a few months of Live polish and it'll be up to par with what you'd expect of an MMO these days. I'm really enjoying the PvP though.

Vin, the game is 14.99$ a month. (The same as WoW, AoC and LotRO)

There is no trial just yet, but no MMO's come out with a trial right away. I'd expect a trial to be out in the next month or so.

I missing playing WoW, but I'm also very sick of it, so something new would be nice.

Oh well, too poor!

Give me a PM if there's ever a trial!

Too bad, could've been fun! Let me know if ever you change your mind and wanna hang out! That goes for everyone.

Right now I'm playing Destro on Skavenblight

I'm playing on Bechafen

Maguses are broken, multiple people have tried to roll them and nothing seems to work (you die in pve).

I rolled a zealot =)

Magi (I think thats the right grammar) werent that bad in PVE in beta, or pvp for that matter.

Zealots are iffy in pve but great at healing. Prefer my High Elf Blind Swordmaster myself... Only real issue with WAR is the Order - Destruction imbalance.

Oy. As I've said over on warhammeralliance.com. They need to reinstate the human tank class they took out (Knight of Ulric(?)) and I'll gladly roll order. Right now I simply have no incentive to, because elves or dwarfs are neither my thing.

For now though, I'm having a blast on my Marauder.

This is my main, Fistface the Black Ork <Of the Waaaugh>
Behind him is my zealot Quoth.

Are any of you guys roleplayers at all?

Just curious, I realise that RPers are a minority.

You should try a witchhunter

I don't know if it's changed since early beta but if you team up with a couple of healers witchhunters rape ****. They had really good damage while you could stay alive, and the finishers (convictions) were REALLY powerful if you could wear down on someone long enough to get the damage buffs.

Well we have totally hijacked DJ Yoshi's thread now...

My character: http://realmwar.warhammeronline.com/realmwar/CharacterInfo.war?id=21923&server=254

Apparently they don't update stats very frequently, those are a few days old.

Hmmm, I may just do that. I never really felt like trying them because they seem to be my easiest target in RvR scenarios or keep battles.

Speaking of which : I've had my first keep battle yesterday.

Good.
****ing.
Christ.
Holy.
Cow.
MAMA.
MIA!
WHOWWWY!!!!!

That was a blast. Now, currently there seems to be an issue with Warband(raid) UI where the party frame (health, buffs, mana, etc.) tracking on so many players cause severe framerate drops during scenarios or keep battles. Despite my system chugging and sometimes going into slideshow mode, it was an intense and complete bewilderingly fun battle.

When on the offense, you can use a series of canons and catapults to pelt the enemy defenses. You can use a battering ram to smash their great gate down and allow passage into the keep.

As offense, you can use canons that you can mount on your keep's towers, and also set up a cauldron of boiling oil over the entrance way to burn those who try to invade your keep to death.

Then of course, the brilliance of collision detection (you were definatly right on this, Rob, in WAR they did it brilliantly) comes into play. The Order set up a barrage of tanks in the stairs, effectively bottle-necking us. One tank would go down another would step in his place to block our advance while a healer resurected their fallen companion.

Eventually, we build a similar strategy and effectively blocked reinforcements from coming behind us in the keep by setting up a line of orcish warriors with huge shield at the keep's gate.

This lasted 3 hours before we bowed in defeat and went home feeling heartsick with a loss. The Order played brilliantly and provided us with action I'd never felt before in an MMO. This challenged the best of Battlefield 2 games.

Eh it's fine. I got pretty much everything taken care of by now.

So you're keeping it or what?