"Maverick" count: 2

Two of my roommates are watching it. The rest of us are isolating ourselves and drinking.

As I posted on the other thread:

Sarah Palin just winked at us

And I think Joe Biden just winked at the Moderator.

I think I make too much money. I'm watching them fighting about who would lower taxes more...but I REALLY want to know what would be done with my taxes. I'd honestly be fine paying more taxes if I thought it was getting put to a good use.

Wow, Sarah Palin really hates the Fed. Her appeal to the "big gov/business/anything bad! Everyday people good!" crowd is overwhelming. In almost every answer so far she's made a reference to how the people = good and the government [or CEOs or big companies] = bad.

I don't believe a word Palin says. Especially how she keeps claiming to be middle class...

Arrrrgh NOT "NU-KYU-LER"!!

According to Obama, since they make less then $250,000 a year, they're middle class.

"Maverick" count: 3

My roommate brought his noisy ***, conservative friends over to watch the debate as I laugh sitting in my room trying to study for a test.

"Maverick" count: 4 and 5 and 6

Also GOVERNMENT BAD count 5 billion

And wink #2


Edit: Oh God. Palin just said "In those arenas, John McCain has already tapped me..."

[s]YouTube[/s] The internet is going to have a field day with taking that out of context.

"Maverick" count: 5

This is getting out of hand.

EDIT: 6 now.

Haha Joe Biden just did a whole rant on the "maverick" issue.

Hahahahaha!!! No she didn't.

The Washington Times should not have misplaced modifiers.

well, i have to say i am a little surprised. palin pretty much held her own.

Every interview I've heard since the debate has pretty much said that she did the best because she didn't come across as an idiot. That's putting the bar pretty low if you ask me.

That's an expensive lake!

Uggghhh thank you I thought nobody else noticed!

Thrawn wins.

McCain, I wanted to vote for you, but Palin sunk your ship. Your choice of her reflects bad judgment on your part, and my respect for Biden outweighs some of the reservations I've held regarding Obama.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but: Obama '08

I encourage everyone to vote likewise.

But... she was so impressively adequate!

Highlight for me was Biden on single parenting. Palin's shtick about John McCain the Maverick rang even more hollow than usual after that. More thoughts tomorrow, but I have class at 9:30 and have to get to bed.

"The ultimate bridge to nowhere."

wow, pwnd.

Biden really jumped on her at the end for saying Maverick so many times. He was clearly as tired of hearing that word as the rest of us, and he let her have it.

I've already watched the Colbert Report so frequently that the word just seems like a running gag

Biden was outstanding, he did a much better job than Obama did during his debate.

Palin was vapid and underwhelming.

Was an awesome move on his part, excellent tactical strike. He knew he had last word, and that he could say that. If Palin had the chance to retort, she would've been able to point out how he voted for the bridge to nowhere twice against Katrina. Was an awesome move, very smart of him.

I thought Palin dominated the debate, through and through. Facts don't matter in these debates at all. For every one of Palin's "Well obama did *such and such", Biden was able to retort with "well mccain did *such and such". For every fact or statistic, there is a counter, and it essentially makes them worthless. Both Biden and Palin obviously had drilled into their head hundreds and hundreds of these pointless statistics that are stretched.

So, to me at least, the debate is all about style, and jesus christ did Palin dominate that. These debates are PURELY for undecideds. Those who are for Obama/Biden, are gonna say Biden won. Those who are for McCain/Palin, will say Palin won. I'm for neither, I don't even really like Palin, but I knew straight out that she was a stone cold *****, and that came across. She threw some great rhetoric around, threw more punches, threw around great keywords (white flag, and I ****ing loved the "redistribution of wealth" line) and knew when to get the hell out of a question. To an undecided, Palin defintly seemed more in control, and more willing to talk to someone, at least I got that impression from the people I asked in my dorm. Biden threw out too many statistics, too many numbers, too much anecdotal evidence (made a huge mistake by mentioning names of single people, you never should do that in a debate and use it as evidence). It was just poor debate form. Biden had some brilliant things to say, and his rant on "maverick" was SUPERB. He showed some authority there. It was also a great move of his to start talking about Cheney. He should've started that right from the beginning, because everyone hates Cheney.

Palin dominated the beginning, the middle, and Biden really started to shine at the end, but overall, I was left with the impression that an undecided probably would declare Palin the victor. And frankly, that's what is most important. More important though are the two next debates, cuz when it comes down to it, people vote for President.

I've heard the word 'maverick' thrown around so often, but I honestly have no idea what is actually /meant/ by it in the context. Could someone explain in short simple words please?

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Actually 250,000 is a decent amount but it's certainly not rich, especially in Alaska. And this is combined income as well, and she's a governor.

Lawl I called it!



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Is it me or did she seem to choke a bit on the same sex marriage question?

CBS News Poll of Uncommitted Voters:

• Joe Biden - 46%
• Tied - 33%
• Sarah Palin - 21%

CNN Poll of All Voters:

• Joe Biden - 51%
• Sarah Palin - 36%

Palin started strong, but then ran out of talking points about half way through the debate, and her lame repetition of them became pretty obvious.

As for who was more effectively on offense, Biden referred to McCain 56 times, Palin only referenced Obama 18 times (I recognize this is a fairly arbitrary measure). Below are word clouds of what the candidates said at the debate. Biden's focus (left): "John McCain." Palin's focus (right): "Going Also."

It's actually a pretty good point. Shows that Biden understands that when it comes down to it, you vote for the President and that's the name that'll stick out.