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would you pay for customer service or sound advice?
2008-11-09, 7:20 PM #1
would you pay extra knowing you got good customer service or sound advice for a product?

i need a new reel for my fishing rod. if i buy it at a box store i won't know if i'm getting my money's worth for the type of fishing i do. for a few extra bucks i can talk to a guy that owns a fishing store who does a lot of fising himself and he'll be able to tell me what i really need.
2008-11-09, 7:51 PM #2
If it's a small, mom and pop type store, then yes. A lot of big companies claim to offer customer service from "knowledgeable experts" but they all suck. Small, private stores and chains are the only places you can get real help.
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2008-11-09, 7:54 PM #3
i agree with emon.
Peace is a lie
There is only passion
Through passion I gain strength
Through strength I gain power
Through power I gain victory
Through victory my chains are broken
The Force shall set me free
2008-11-09, 8:04 PM #4
Yes but I still don't tip.
nope.
2008-11-09, 8:13 PM #5
I voted "no," but then I realized you meant sound advice, not sound advice, as in advice for audio-related equipment.
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2008-11-09, 8:20 PM #6
I try to figure out if a product is prone to issues before I get it, I normally don't bother with customer service at all.
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2008-11-09, 9:11 PM #7
internet reviews from customers who bought the product are a billion times better than talking to ANY salesperson, good or not.
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2008-11-09, 9:40 PM #8
Internet FTW. Or, if you must. Talk to the more expensive place. See what they recommend.

Then go buy it somewhere cheaper.
2008-11-09, 9:41 PM #9
Yes. At Gamestop, unlike most of them, we actually try to offer GOOD customer service. We get trade-ins from people so many times (like Warhawk and the new SOCOM, FFIX etc) where we automatically ask them if they are able to play a game under the certain conditions listed.

Know for a fact no other one around here does though...sad.
D E A T H
2008-11-09, 10:41 PM #10
No. I'd come to massassi. They know all.

Actually, I'd more or less do one of the following:

- Research online
- Trial And Error

I usually do the second one, first.
2008-11-09, 11:21 PM #11
Originally posted by JM:
Internet FTW. Or, if you must. Talk to the more expensive place. See what they recommend.

Then go buy it somewhere cheaper.


/thread
2008-11-09, 11:22 PM #12
JM pays for customer service every Friday if you know what I mean.
2008-11-10, 3:34 AM #13
Originally posted by Steven:
JM pays for customer service every Friday if you know what I mean.


:confused:
2008-11-10, 5:03 AM #14
Quote:
JM pays for customer service every Friday if you know what I mean.


Well sorry, but your mom aint free.
2008-11-10, 8:25 AM #15
I'm not sure if Free is a step up from his mom or not, JM.
nope.
2008-11-10, 10:29 AM #16
Quote:
Yes. At Gamestop, unlike most of them, we actually try to offer GOOD customer service. We get trade-ins from people so many times (like Warhawk and the new SOCOM, FFIX etc) where we automatically ask them if they are able to play a game under the certain conditions listed.


Heh, maybe around there but not around here.. not by a long shot.
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2008-11-10, 10:46 AM #17
Internet reviews would be a lot better if the big companies would stop paying people to write them.

I say it every time this subject comes up, but I - along with the majority of people - would be willing to pay more for good customer service. I prefer shopping at privately-owned stores or smaller chains where I know they pay commission. That way I know I'm getting quality customer service because their livelihood depends on it - even if they don't have an honest passion for their work. The big retailers' internal market research corroborates this viewpoint: most people would rather pay more money for better service! So why don't companies like Best Buy, Gamestop and Wal-mart do anything about it?

Large businesses simply don't want to pay enough money to hire, train and retain competent salespeople. Big box stores don't fund internal product familiarization programs, so the staff cannot possibly have any idea what they're talking about. They code every employee as part-time so they don't have to offer benefits. They all pay zero commission and low wages that a person cannot possibly survive on, so usually when you go to a big box store you're dealing with a student or a teenager who doesn't have to care about offering good customer service. They don't want to pay the money because, on paper, it looks like the store is spending more than it has to. Incompetent CEOs slash costs to nothing so they can get a bigger golden parachute when the company falls apart. Investors reward CEOs for short-term gains at the expense of the long-term.

The most insulting part is the fact that these companies are the ones in the best position to offer excellent salaries to all of their employees, given how many of their programs return what is basically pure profit. Let's use EB Games as a case study:
  • Extended warranties: Sits on top of the manufacturer warranty. If it breaks, return it to the store and they will ship it to the manufacturer to be replaced. You get a new one, they get a new one. $50 free profit for the company.
  • Game insurance: If you scratch the game, you can get a replacement copy if you have the original purchase receipt. Few people damage their games. Almost nobody keeps their receipts for a full year. $3 free profit for the company, per game.
  • Game trading: Trade in a brand new game for a small amount of store credit. Company gets $38 in pure profit, on top of the fact that whatever money you got from the store needs to be spent there.
  • Discount card: Spend $10 - market research indicates that people are more likely to use coupons or promotions if they have to spend money on them - and get a discount on used games (which are pure profit). You can even put store credit on the card. It's like a perpetual money machine.


It's never going to get better because these companies have found a way to rig the system. They've flooded the market with mass market consumer goods, they get the lowest prices on all merchandise, and their profit margins would make any sane person sick - and no, hiding profit behind a multimillion dollar executive salary does not make your margins "razor-thin." Blockbuster Video could have given every single employee a $450 bonus instead of giving Antioco, the man who almost ruined the company, a golden parachute. $1264 per Best Buy employee could have been spent on product familiarization if the CEO's take had been limited to his actual salary.

I'm also sick of the goddamn soft language. It's never 'used' anymore. It's 'previously-enjoyed' or 'previously-played.' They play mind tricks on you - like restaurants in the 80s painting their walls brown because it makes you hungrier, or placing displays in the middle of the aisles to attract the attention of the male consumer. If these business criminals would get their heads out of their "previously-enjoyed" asses it would make the whole shopping experience a lot more enjoyable.
2008-11-10, 1:10 PM #18
Well, they're all really screwed in the long run. The internet is fast making them irrelevant, so any B&M stores that exist will really have to make it worth it to get off your *** and drive all the way to the store.
2008-11-10, 1:32 PM #19
Gamestop still says used.
2008-11-10, 2:18 PM #20
Originally posted by Jon`C:
wisdom

Basically, yes. A lot of research shows that providing ridiculous, out of the way customer service is like consumer cocaine. People will never go anywhere else.
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2008-11-10, 3:17 PM #21
that was good Jon'C. they say if you don't fall for the marketing crap then you're too smart. unfortunately we live in a pure capitalist society and ceo's do and get what they want at the expense of the middle class.

i was just thinking about eb games today. my youngest boy traded in enough games to get guitar hero 4 (we just picked it up less than an hour ago). it's a win-win for them. and that store sucks! their website is the worst retail site on the internet (.ca that is).
2008-11-10, 3:38 PM #22
Quote:
I'm not sure if Free is a step up from his mom or not, JM.
I was talking about Steven's mom...?
2008-11-10, 3:41 PM #23
I know.

Read what you said again and think of other interpretations.
nope.
2008-11-10, 3:42 PM #24
You can get more for your used games by selling on e-bay. You end up selling lower than the used games at a gamestop, but higher than the credit they offer. And most of them can be shipped USPS dirt cheap. You can literally just stuff the DVD case in an envelope and send it first class for $2.
2008-11-10, 3:43 PM #25
Quote:
Read what you said again and think of other interpretations.
If you meant that I shouldn't be paying Steven's mom anything, well, you shouldn't have capitalized Free. But I have to pay her something, she does such a nice job polishing my linoleum.
2008-11-10, 6:41 PM #26
I don't think I would pay more, but if prices are even then that store/person/organization who offers good advice or customer service is more likely to get future business from me.
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