Rest well dear lander, rest well

Veni, Vidi, Fodi

"01010100 01110010 01101001 01110101 01101101 01110000 01101000 <3"

"Triumph <3"



See you space cowboy

that's sad.. that poor Phoenix Lander.

Fact: Mars sucks.

Does the United States own the moon? We got there first, and planted our flag there. Isn't that how it worked back in the days of world exploration?

[doh, typo]

i think the consensus is that until there is a one-nation-only base on it, its everyones

Ha, I don't see that lasting. Men are teritorial.

I bet there will be a ****load of wars over Mars in the future, hell if you flip the M upside down you get Wars!!

also someting bout god of war but thats for nerds and babies and roman and nerd rome babies

Mars was also a god of War.

Oops just saw your second post.

fref

We laugh now but I bet that landers begun construction of a robot army of death right now.

I imagine that this twitter was some sort of feature from Nasa and not actually the lander transmitting intelligent messages back to earth...right? I figure it didn't have some super advanced sentient A.I.

Edit : There we go, got my answer (Figured as much, hehe) :

I think it would be a little ridiculous for someone to pop up there on something that's been there longer than humanity in a rocket ship, build a base, and call it their own saying they own it. I don't think you can officially "own" the moon.

How is this different than any terrestrial landmass that humans claim as countries? IF humanity begins settling other worlds/moons, you can expect the same territorial disputes that we face here on our homeworld.

I see where you're coming from Jep. It does make sense obviously, but IMO I think that the moon is something that belongs to Earth, not a specific nation. Which ever one got there first doesn't matter. The moon has been here before we were, and will be here long after we're gone. Nobody can nor should claim it as their own, and that they own it and the moon now belongs to that country. The moon is humanity's. Other planets are a different case, they don't orbit us and they don't influence our entire planet and species in certain manners. We don't need ALPHABETAGAMMA20003-4211323SHUMAKER870 in order to survive as we currently do. I think that one country should be able to say "hey we conquered the moon first, our flag belongs on it" or something like that, but to say "Yeah we landed here, its ours. We own this moon. Piss off." in my opinion is very bad.

That's just my take on it of course.

does that mean anyone who owns a house doesn't really own it because it was there before they were? even if they have a mortgage or hell it's paid off..?

Mars is a lot like an uninhabited Japan...sure, you can own it, but it's effectively worthless.

Thus, I presume that no one will fight over Mars unless someone sticks a giant railgun on it and aims it back at Earth. I'm sure there will plenty of squabbling over Jupiter though...what with it's proximity to to some very resource rich asteroids, it's own gas products, and it's uncountable moons some of which may or may not contain loads of water in an easy to access low-g environment.

I don't see how you can compare a moon base and claiming the entire moon to be yours to the real estate business and a person buying a house to live in..

When I say you can't own the moon I mean that, in my opinion, you can't go up there slap a little flag on it and say "Hey, we landed here first. The moon is now officially the property of the USA and nobody else can share it or have it because its ours".

That and I cannot imagine how much the mortgage would be for "The Moon".




I wonder... Am I the only one that's sat around and wondered how amazing it would be to be alive... say 1000years from now, when (and if) humanity is scouring outer space? Imagine... You're sitting at home and you say "I'm bored. I'm gonna take a small flight in my ship around Saturn to relax for a bit.. I'll be home later." That's such an awesome thought to me I am jealous of those that will be alive in that time frame. Then again, I also wonder if we will even survive to that time and if it will even be as idealistic as I imagine and hope it will be.

But I do agree also.. In the future there will no doubt be huge disputes over which planetary body belongs to who, which resources belong to who, etc.

Not only is actually colonizing there a LONG TIME AWAY. But when it does get there, one nation would most likely not have the resources to do by themselves .. so it would probably be a joint venture to begin with. And there is plenty of land to go around.. so unless someone finds some super awesome new element or gold/diamond mine on one spot.. Yea right. No one is going to fight over the moon or mars.

ALIENS? What if they try to take over our moon bases? Other species (if they exist) could fight us for control?

Although, in all seriousness....

Humanity has fought and waged wars for far less.

Yeah,but no one cares about own the moon right now. It's not at all useful.

Sure but I don't see anyone shedding blood for Antarctica.

I've always wanted to start my own country there.

The cold doesn't bother me.. but there's no grocery stores there.

LOL good one.

Does Antarctica even have a population? I was under the impression that anyone that lived there was only living there for scientific studies and that it has no "permanent" population..

Although I wouldn't put it past humans to eventually struggle to fight over Antarctica when all other land masses and resources are used up and there's nothing else left.

That's not true...nobody cares right now because we're all flat broke and setting up anything up there is pretty friggin' expensive...as for why we haven't been back at all since we quit going so far...well...:downswords: Same reason we decided to make our big cheap STO space truck both absurdly expensive and with WINGS and build a giant space station in LEO that effectively does nothing but eat money.

I really think you're wrong on that one...There are tons of reasons as to why the Moon is necessary and useful for current life on Earth. Climate being one of the biggest.

Um, you aren't getting what he is saying.

I know exactly what he's saying.. I was just nitpicking

basically everybody has a treaty agreement not develop on it, but different countries have claims on the land

Plus there's that guy that claims he owns it. You know the one.

He was selling moonland to people.

That fits with what I thought. Thanks for the clarification.