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Join The Impact (Prop 8)
2008-11-14, 9:02 PM #1
I know this is kind of late, but tomorrow there's going to be hundreds of protests across the country against Prop 8 and the other anti-gay marriage bans. I know most of you probably don't feel strongly enough about the issue to spend a few hours screaming over it, but for anyone interested, here's the site:

http://jointheimpact.wetpaint.com/

It's a pretty terrible site, but from the state pages you can get to the Facebook pages for each rally. Just thought I'd put this out there.
2008-11-14, 9:23 PM #2
I agree with this effort. Homophobia is pretty gay.
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2008-11-14, 9:52 PM #3
Man I would join the local protest but it's at 11:30 right when I have something reallllly important I have to go to :(
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-11-14, 10:07 PM #4
Well goddamnit. It all ready happened :mad:
Code to the left of him, code to the right of him, code in front of him compil'd and thundered. Programm'd at with shot and $SHELL. Boldly he typed and well. Into the jaws of C. Into the mouth of PERL. Debug'd the 0x258.
2008-11-14, 10:11 PM #5
Exactly as I predicted. Neat.
2008-11-14, 10:17 PM #6
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"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-11-14, 10:30 PM #7
**** YEA
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2008-11-14, 10:32 PM #8
That didn't work, Thrawn.
2008-11-14, 11:47 PM #9
Originally posted by Freelancer:
Man I would join the local protest but it's at 11:30 right when I have something reallllly important I have to go to :(


yes, those ladies of the night do like to keep on schedule
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2008-11-15, 1:18 AM #10
"Join the Impact" sounds dumb :/
2008-11-15, 8:22 AM #11
the *** impact
2008-11-15, 8:59 AM #12
lol, best protest sign ever on that site! "keep your magic undies off my civil rights"

i dont think this will ever be over until the "church" and the gay community are able to come to terms with each other. right now its a whole lot of mud slinging from both sides. and as much as i hate to admit it i dont think that change will start with the "church"
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2008-11-15, 12:51 PM #13
So much drama over a little bit of tax code. At least everyone's occupied with something totally irrelevant.
2008-11-15, 1:03 PM #14
its not just a little bit of tax code. if were going to be honest this is a MAJOR seperation of church and state issue.
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2008-11-15, 1:11 PM #15
polygamy should be legalized too.
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2008-11-15, 2:57 PM #16
Originally posted by Darth_Alran:
its not just a little bit of tax code. if were going to be honest this is a MAJOR seperation of church and state issue.

What should be: church state
What is right now: chusrtcahte

Quick poll: How many of you will cry if "In God We Trust" is removed from our money. If you are said group, why?
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2008-11-15, 6:19 PM #17
Originally posted by The_Lost_One:
polygamy should be legalized too.


Yes. Who you choose to love is no ****ing business of the state. It's sad that it's probably going to take another 100 years for people to become smart enough to understand. But for now polygamy is scary and weird and it's DIFFERENT from OUR TRADITIONS. zomg.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-11-15, 8:23 PM #18
The problem with polygamy is that historically (and well, currently in fundamentalist Mormon compounds...) is that's it's not a man who loves and is loved by more than one woman and they all get married and live happily. They are usually arranged or forced marriages. For instance, Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon church, married several 14 and 15 year old girls by promising them and their families eternal salvation.

But if 3+ people really wanted to get married? I don't know. It would be really complicated for legal/tax reasons...

Anyway, I had to work today so I didn't get to go to the protest. But there were 2000 people at the Phoenix one!
2008-11-15, 9:11 PM #19
Then culthood should get the rap for it, not polygamy.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-11-15, 10:52 PM #20
i think i would like to see inter species marriage legalized too. actually what i really want to be able to do is marry my lamp. because i love lamp.
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2008-11-16, 1:54 AM #21
America is not a Christian nation.
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2008-11-16, 6:16 AM #22
The problem with polygamy is that it denies many man the chance to have a family. Polygamy is better in the long run for women (They can group up on the best mates) and Monogamy is better in the long run for men (There's enough chicks for everyone)

If we had a polygamous system, the richest men would monopolize all the women. If they all had five wives, then there's 80% of the male population sitting around with no wives at all. And when you're faced with the prospect of never having a wife, and a family, those instinctual urges have to be focused on something else. Which might lead you to strap bombs onto your chest and blow up innocent children under the promise of getting seventy two virgins in heaven.

So. No. Polygamy should not be legal, and if you think it's anything but destructive, you're a fool.
2008-11-16, 12:31 PM #23
Originally posted by Darth_Alran:
its not just a little bit of tax code. if were going to be honest this is a MAJOR seperation of church and state issue.


Um, no. Read the constitution.

This is an issue of people try to fight opinions with laws, because they are too socially and intellectually inept to actually talk to each other. It's entirely irrelevant. No one is stopping anyone from buying rings and having a ceremony. It has zero impact on anyone's life. Passing or not passing the law with change NOTHING. It's a pissing contest for the sake of a pissing contest.
2008-11-16, 12:33 PM #24
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
No one is stopping anyone from buying rings and having a ceremony. It has zero impact on anyone's life.


Thank you for showing me where the blacks-only water fountain is.
2008-11-16, 2:27 PM #25
Originally posted by JM:
If we had a polygamous system


What? System? What the hell are you talking about?

You can't systemize love. To the extent that we do this now is only harmful.

Besides, your rant isn't even logical. Polygamy means having more than one spouse. Gender is irrelevant. It isn't logical to assume more males would have multiple wives than the reverse.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-11-16, 2:57 PM #26
No, Free, polygamy is specifically multiple wives. Polyandry is specifically multiple husbands. He's still exaggerating by a lot though.

And Obi, that's a cute attempt at understanding the issue.
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2008-11-16, 3:44 PM #27
Nope, polygamy is generic. Polygyny is what you're thinking of.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-11-16, 5:18 PM #28
Originally posted by JM:
The problem with polygamy is that it denies many man the chance to have a family. Polygamy is better in the long run for women (They can group up on the best mates) and Monogamy is better in the long run for men (There's enough chicks for everyone)

If we had a polygamous system, the richest men would monopolize all the women. If they all had five wives, then there's 80% of the male population sitting around with no wives at all. And when you're faced with the prospect of never having a wife, and a family, those instinctual urges have to be focused on something else. Which might lead you to strap bombs onto your chest and blow up innocent children under the promise of getting seventy two virgins in heaven.

So. No. Polygamy should not be legal, and if you think it's anything but destructive, you're a fool.


But see, if 80% of men are gay, then there's no problem!
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2008-11-16, 5:26 PM #29
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
It's entirely irrelevant. No one is stopping anyone from buying rings and having a ceremony.

No, but the law prohibits two gays from gaining the same economic benefits as two straight people. All people deserve equal protection under the law, and that is not equal. How is it hard to see that?
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2008-11-16, 7:43 PM #30
Quote:
But see, if 80% of men are gay, then there's no problem!
If only that were true. I'd get a lot more action.
2008-11-16, 11:45 PM #31
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
Um, no. Read the constitution.

The constitution is not the only law-defining document.
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2008-11-17, 12:32 AM #32
Besides, I'd rather not waste my time reading a document we don't even follow anymore. :v:
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-11-17, 5:52 AM #33
Originally posted by JM:
If we had a polygamous system, the richest men would monopolize all the women. If they all had five wives, then there's 80% of the male population sitting around with no wives at all. And when you're faced with the prospect of never having a wife, and a family, those instinctual urges have to be focused on something else. Which might lead you to strap bombs onto your chest and blow up innocent children under the promise of getting seventy two virgins in heaven.


Oh, not this pop-psychology nonsense again. Bigamy is pretty uncommon even in the societies that allow it, plenty of suicide bombers are men with families, and a rising number of them are women.
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2008-11-17, 11:11 AM #34
um yes actually the "legal" aspects of marriage are a glaring example of how church and state are NOT separate. any time you have legal benefits granted by a classically christian ceremony performed by the "church" it is inherently going to cause problems with the separation of church and state. :colbert:
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2008-11-17, 2:15 PM #35
If social values are a factor in matrimony, why not restrict marriages that are a result of TV game shows and Vegas partying? One should have to have a waiting period to marry and require to take a breathalyser test before filing the papers.
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2008-11-17, 2:37 PM #36
Originally posted by Emon:
No, but the law prohibits two gays from gaining the same economic benefits as two straight people. All people deserve equal protection under the law, and that is not equal. How is it hard to see that?


how is this statement being ignored?
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2008-11-17, 4:20 PM #37
Even if you had civil unions that granted the same economic benefits, that's still no good. We don't do "separate but equal" in this country anymore.
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2008-11-17, 5:38 PM #38
Worst case scenario is that nobody gets married anymore. Ultimately, as long as the courts continue their sexist practice of siding with mothers, men lose. So guys. Really. It's in our best interest to keep marriage around. And banning a certain form it clearly weakens it!
2008-11-17, 5:42 PM #39
Clearly weakens it?
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2008-11-17, 5:46 PM #40
I think I forgot an 'of' in there somewhere.

But yes. Banning gay marriage actually weakens traditional marriage.
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