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In God We Trust
2008-11-15, 9:45 PM #1
Should it be removed from currency?
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2008-11-15, 9:50 PM #2
Won't happen.

You don't like it, don't use it.
2008-11-15, 9:53 PM #3
Originally posted by Squirrel King:
Won't happen.

You don't like it, don't use it.


k.
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2008-11-15, 9:53 PM #4
It's kind of unsettling. In a country established with one of the major tenants being freedom of religion, but there are all these objects and traditions like the currency and pledge that establish that a Judean-christian religion is "correct"
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2008-11-15, 9:53 PM #5
I'm not offended, but yeah, probably.
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2008-11-15, 9:55 PM #6
Meh, only 3% of currency in America is in bills anyway. 95% is digital..
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2008-11-15, 9:56 PM #7
Who does this offend more? Atheists or the Faithful.
2008-11-15, 10:13 PM #8
To be honest I think there's much more important things to do with the government's time and money (lol)
2008-11-15, 10:19 PM #9
Ah but I want all separations of church and state handled right now so that this bull**** never has to come back and we can focus on real important issues.
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2008-11-15, 10:24 PM #10
You know what we should do if we do this?
design the new bill on plastic. Australia knows where it's at. (I think it would be harder to conterfeit too?)
You don't have to print out new ones every couple years. And you don't loose it in the wash.
2008-11-15, 10:28 PM #11
pfft, 10:1 that cash will be outlawed within 10 years.
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2008-11-15, 10:32 PM #12
Originally posted by Squirrel King:
You know what we should do if we do this?
design the new bill on plastic. Australia knows where it's at. (I think it would be harder to conterfeit too?)
You don't have to print out new ones every couple years. And you don't loose it in the wash.


If you lose your cash to a washing machine, there's a chance that it wasn't real money.

On the subject, I don't really care but it sounds like way to much :effort: for a bunch of words.
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2008-11-15, 10:40 PM #13
I don't care if we started using bottlecaps with the god of the ****ing underworld on it.

If people want my green pieces of paper that I tend to accumulate, that's fine, as long as they deliver something in return.

One thing I can't understand though is why the green pieces of papers are more commonly used and valued higher than the pieces of metal. Metal last longer than paper, so one doesn't have to recycle the currency due to wear and tear on the green paper.

But oh well. I digress.
2008-11-15, 10:46 PM #14
I am not offended by it, nor would I care if it were removed. Besides, I rarely even handle money, I just use my credit/debit card.
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2008-11-15, 10:46 PM #15
Because having a bag full of change is a PITA.

And if we copies the Aussies we wouldn't have the wear and tear issue.
edit above to latis
and yea, debit/credit ftw I almost never carry cash
2008-11-15, 10:47 PM #16
because it would make large ransom sums much harder to collect. can you imagine trying to carry 10 million in metal coins... i mean my god...
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2008-11-15, 10:50 PM #17
The Europeans seem to be fine with handling pieces of metal more than paper. Then again, they use larger wallets.

As for ransom sums, one usually does this electronically now. If one does it at all anymore. Besides, it will discourage a ransomer holding someone for hostage. If the ransomer demands a large ransom with knowledge of the weight of currency used, the ransomer loses time. Time is just as valuable as money to them. Time is key to the freedom of the captive.
2008-11-15, 10:54 PM #18
that would actually be kind of funny. guy demands 20 million in ransom and is paid in gold ingots. ha! figure that one out mr. smarty pants bad guy. oh... also we already have plastic money, its called a check card.
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2008-11-15, 11:44 PM #19
Originally posted by Squirrel King:
You don't like it, don't use it.

uh
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2008-11-15, 11:49 PM #20
I wouldn't mind. It could say "In Mickey Mouse We Trust" or "In Tyler Durden We Trust" or "In 9/11 Conspiracy Theories We Trust", doesn't matter what fictional thing is going to be trusted, it just fills up nice space.

What would bother me is that it was added there not that long ago, like in 1955 or something. I'd have thought there had been something like that already in the 1800s but no. Bloody Godbotherers.
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2008-11-16, 5:22 AM #21
Originally posted by Latis:
The Europeans seem to be fine with handling pieces of metal more than paper. Then again, they use larger wallets.

As for ransom sums, one usually does this electronically now. If one does it at all anymore. Besides, it will discourage a ransomer holding someone for hostage. If the ransomer demands a large ransom with knowledge of the weight of currency used, the ransomer loses time. Time is just as valuable as money to them. Time is key to the freedom of the captive.


Given the price of things these days, i'd prefer it if all currency £1 or larger was in notes, my wallet doesn't fit in my pockets these days :(
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2008-11-16, 8:53 AM #22
To all those using debit cards. Be very careful. They tie straight to your account. If you get your card # stolen, they have carte blanche to your bank account and getting it rectified could be a royal PITA. I got burned by Walmart...$700.
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2008-11-16, 9:25 AM #23
Originally posted by Latis:
As for ransom sums, one usually does this electronically now. If one does it at all anymore. Besides, it will discourage a ransomer holding someone for hostage. If the ransomer demands a large ransom with knowledge of the weight of currency used, the ransomer loses time. Time is just as valuable as money to them. Time is key to the freedom of the captive.


Not only that but if the paper money used is mostly large bills, police can potentially track them through serial numbers. Unless the ransomer wants a million one-dollar bills, which would be a retarded move.

Movies like to show ransoms paid out through paper currency because stainless steel briefcases with perfectly lined bills inside is such a cool plot device.
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2008-11-16, 9:34 AM #24
As for the "In God We Trust," I don't feel it would be so wrong to get rid of it. The line itself doesn't carry much history; it only became "official" back in the 1950's. It's not like E pluribus unum which had been around the country since around 1776, so you can't say the statement holds much cultural importance. But to be offended about it seems like to distract people from bigger issues.
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2008-11-16, 9:49 AM #25
I just think that people look too much into things. As of the last decade, people seem to be trying to find things that aren't politically correct, or "force" religious practices upon them. Really it's just a foundation that the country was established on, and anything beyond that is what you make of it yourself.
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2008-11-16, 12:19 PM #26
I think it's offensive that our money has "In God We Trust" plastered all over it. It sends the wrong message to countries that respect us for our blind eye to religion. It represents a non-present subservience and legal usurping of separation in the Constitution. It affords ignorant idiots the ability to declare our nation a Christian one, and then pass laws banning gay marriage based on their personal religious beliefs. Our country has been hijacked by this neo-christian movement, and it's ruining us.
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2008-11-16, 12:23 PM #27
Originally posted by Dark__Knight:
Really it's just a foundation that the country was established on, and anything beyond that is what you make of it yourself.


Please stop doing that. America was founded on anti-British-Church beliefs, if anything.

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."
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2008-11-16, 12:31 PM #28
Originally posted by JediKirby:
I think it's offensive that our money has "In God We Trust" plastered all over it. It sends the wrong message to countries that respect us for our blind eye to religion. It represents a non-present subservience and legal usurping of separation in the Constitution. It affords ignorant idiots the ability to declare our nation a Christian one, and then pass laws banning gay marriage based on their personal religious beliefs. Our country has been hijacked by this neo-christian movement, and it's ruining us.


Does it? (Send the wrong message)
(I'm not saying you are wrong, and I totally believe that this is possible, but is there anything behind this?)
2008-11-16, 12:46 PM #29
Maybe it could be expanded to include many different faiths.

"In n Gods we trust, [http://www.texify.com/img/%5CLARGE%5C%21%5Ccolor%7Bwhite%7Dn%20%5Cin%20%5Cmathbb%7BN%7D.gif]"
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2008-11-16, 1:51 PM #30
Originally posted by JediKirby:
It sends the wrong message to countries that respect us for our blind eye to religion.

Who does that? :confused:

Originally posted by Detty:
Given the price of things these days, i'd prefer it if all currency £1 or larger was in notes, my wallet doesn't fit in my pockets these days :(

When was the last time you actually saw a £1 note? :(
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2008-11-16, 2:00 PM #31
Quote:
I think it's offensive that our money has "In God We Trust" plastered all over it. It sends the wrong message to countries that respect us for our blind eye to religion.


who gives a **** what other countries think..?

And I'm not voting because I don't care. It pays my bills that's all I care about.
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2008-11-16, 2:02 PM #32
It'll happen, people will *****, whine whine moan moan shut up and who cares.
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2008-11-16, 2:43 PM #33
I wouldn't mind seeing it off the money, but I actually campaign for it just to piss off the atheist whiners who make the rest of us atheists look bad. Same thing with "one nation, under God".
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2008-11-16, 2:45 PM #34
Religious people shouldn't like it any more than atheists do. People pray at their banks and make donations to themselves, the ATM alters, the consumerism, all with your God's symbolism and ideologies attested. False idol worship, in my opinion.
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2008-11-16, 2:53 PM #35
Originally posted by Z@NARDI:
who gives a **** what other countries think..?

And I'm not voting because I don't care. It pays my bills that's all I care about.


Because getting along with each other is kind of important?
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2008-11-16, 3:00 PM #36
Too many people don't realize it's a newer development for it to change.

And what's with all the old lesbians on british money?
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2008-11-16, 3:06 PM #37
By the time we convince the idiots that think it's a great idea to keep it on our money that it's not, we'll no longer have a use for money anyways.
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2008-11-16, 3:09 PM #38
.. Idiots?
2008-11-16, 3:34 PM #39
Originally posted by JediKirby:
Please stop doing that. America was founded on anti-British-Church beliefs, if anything.

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."


And yet the Declaration specifically mentions a creator and the state charters all talk about God?
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2008-11-16, 3:57 PM #40
You must not have read my link. Clearly, laws are not made based on religion, but religion is a part of their lives. It has been affirmed several times that America is NOT a Christian nation, and that our laws are universal and fair. That's been true up until very recently. This rebranding of America is a very recent development.
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