Screw it. Nanotech is going to make "robots", as we know them, obsolete. You can't argue with exponential manufacturing!

Really, why would you tell your robot servant to make you breakfast when you could just tell the nanobots embedded in your kitchen table to generate a breakfast for you. You know, kind of like replicators off of Star Trek.

Sure, nanotechnology has certain dangers/problems too, but I'm sure we can find ways around them.

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Four dimensions, four fundamental forces... coincidence?

If we are no more than the recorded information and the interactive abilities in our heads, we are nothing but advanced robots our selves.

Yes, that was my point.

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On another note, to those who might have been wondering, neural networks are not a big mystery in the game industry.

One article written by Andre Lamothe concerning games and neural nets: http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles/article771.asp

Three more article links including the one above: http://www.gamedev.net/reference/list.asp?categoryid=18#65

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"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity."

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In the entire world, the best country with robotics is Japan.


Oh really....

[This message has been edited by Cloud (edited August 12, 2004).]

I think your assessment of the economics involved is a little off. Sure, perhaps that job as a cashier is taken by a robot, and someone loses their job. But 3 more just opened up for designing, engineering, and marketing the robot..

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Have a good one,
Freelancer

Last I checked, cashiers didn't have the experience or schooling to do any of those three.

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I think he meant neural nets in games in the future, where they'd be a total senient being (or could be). But almost all of the time AI would be limited anyway, I mean an enemy that you're going to kill in a few seconds doesn't need much of a personality.

Also, take Star Trek for example. Why wouldn't anyone have remorse in deleting a holodeck program? Though as I mentioned, the AIs in there are very simple compared to say, Data. Whenever they walk in with a Starfleet Uniform and start doing really out of place stuff, no one seems to notice.

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Why can't robots do that? Well, there wouldn't be "marketing".

In the end, robots wouldn't be "sold". Why would robots buy robots from robots?



There wouldn't be 'money', so there wouldn't be 'capitalism'.

Robots would work in the mines, robots would work in the refineries, robots would work in the factories, and robots would work in the warehouses.
If you want something, you get it.

I suppose this brings up the question of 'greed'. If everyone can have anything, surely everyone would want everything?

Again, perhaps you would, but think about those that would grow up in such an environment.

If they can have what they want when they want it, what exactly is the point of having more than they need?
When you're hungry, you can go to the shops and take some food and eat it. You're no longer hungry. There's no point in taking lots and lots and lots of food. You don't need it. and it's not going to run out.

Yes, if you choose to paint a picture or study science, you might need other materials, but there is no point in having more than you need.


This is probably a very significant point, actually..

The talk about gaming makes me demand everyone in this thread go watch Avalon. I'm not going to rant and rave about how amazing and deep it may or may not have been. But i really damn well enjoyed it.

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Precisely. What makes us differ is that we have conscience.

The moment you create true AI, as in, an artificial conscience capable of thinking on it's own, and learning on it's own, then you've created an equal to the human being, who only consists of different materials, and who should have equal rights and opportunities. But knowing humanity all too well, that won't happen without an uprising of somekind. In any case, if that happends while I'm alive, I'm surely taking the robots' side.

Another interresting point to think about is that, if you can create an artificial brain capable of the same electrical impulses and memory storage, then if we could somehow upload a person's electrical patterns into the machine, we would, in a way, become immortal.

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WAITER: Here’s your green salad, sir.
ANAKIN: What? You fool, I told you NO CROUTONS! Aaaaaaargh!

When I was talking about jobs, I meant in general. Not positions that could be taken by any old schmoe of the street, but at least they're jobs.

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Have a good one,
Freelancer

What jobs?