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what's the longest word in the english language without a traditional vowel?
2008-12-09, 4:43 PM #1
I think I already know...
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2008-12-09, 4:46 PM #2
Skynyrd?
nope.
2008-12-09, 4:46 PM #3
Twyndyllyngs
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2008-12-09, 4:48 PM #4
Dangit I should have remembered that off QI.
nope.
2008-12-09, 4:49 PM #5
Umm... I don't think those are real words.
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Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2008-12-09, 4:54 PM #6
They are.
nope.
2008-12-09, 5:00 PM #7
Rhythms?
.
2008-12-09, 5:02 PM #8
That's the one I was thinking, SiliconC.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2008-12-09, 5:30 PM #9
Twyndyllyngs is the longest word in English that doesn't contain one of the five vowels (AEIOU). It comes from Welsh and is obviously rare, but it does appear in the Oxford English Dictionary.

It turns out that "twyndyllyng" (singular) is a 15th century spelling of the word "twinling," which means, in modern English, "twin."
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2008-12-09, 5:37 PM #10
Bah that doesn't count. That's lame.
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Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2008-12-09, 5:40 PM #11
Why doesn't it count? It's a word, it's in the Oxford English Dictionary.
Not on dictionary.com though, which is why I googled and found that.
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2008-12-09, 5:43 PM #12
Yeah cause first of all googling is cheating. You're supposed to use your knowledge of linguistics. Second that word is stupid. No one ever uses it, and it sounds like something out of harry potter. And third its my thread and I said so.
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Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2008-12-09, 7:04 PM #13
Well by your second point you're stupid because nobody ever actually says "sarn_cadrill".
nope.
2008-12-09, 7:11 PM #14
Sarn is just upset that his little clever game was supposed to be correctly answered with rhythm but he was wrong :(

:P
2008-12-09, 7:15 PM #15
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
Yeah cause first of all googling is cheating.


I googled, doesn't mean they did =p
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
Second that word is stupid. No one ever uses it,

I've used it already since learning it, I love weird-*** words
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
And third its my thread and I said so.

Well damn, theres just no counter for that :saddowns:
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2008-12-09, 7:22 PM #16
I had to google it for the spelling
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2008-12-09, 7:22 PM #17
Ha! My superior skill at arguing triumphs again!
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2008-12-09, 7:24 PM #18
I knew it without googling though. :P
nope.
2008-12-09, 7:38 PM #19
I'm not sure what this idea of a 'traditional vowel' is all about. If a word doesn't contain any vowels, you can't physically say it. The letter 'y' can be a vowel, or a consonant. That's not a particularly controversial concept. The designation of vowel or consonant determines how words are spoken, not written. A sound is a vowel, not a letter.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. " - Bertrand Russell
The Triumph of Stupidity in Mortals and Others 1931-1935
2008-12-09, 7:43 PM #20
The name "vowel" is often used for the symbols that represent vowel sounds, A E I O U
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2008-12-09, 7:46 PM #21
Does anyone else see this?
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
whine whine whine whine whine!!!! waaaaaa!
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2008-12-09, 7:47 PM #22
Originally posted by Z@NARDI:
The name "vowel" is often used for the symbols that represent vowel sounds, A E I O U


..and also Y
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. " - Bertrand Russell
The Triumph of Stupidity in Mortals and Others 1931-1935
2008-12-09, 7:58 PM #23
Originally posted by Mort-Hog:
If a word doesn't contain any vowels, you can't physically say it.



I disagree. It's totally possible to pronounce clumps of phones that have no vowels; some languages even use such clumps as words. In English, for example, we can say something like "pssst" perfectly fine (though of course you can argue that it's not really a word). Other languages actually have several such words (Tashelhiyt and other Berber languages for one, I believe); Georgian allows words with vowelless syllables, though I'm not sure if it has truly vowelless words.

You are, however, absolutely right that a vowel is defined by pronunciation, not spelling.
2008-12-09, 10:17 PM #24
y isn't a vowel. It's sometimes called a half vowel, but either way, it's not a vowel.
2008-12-09, 11:05 PM #25
'R' is a vowel.
2008-12-10, 7:26 AM #26
Originally posted by Martyn:
y isn't a vowel. It's sometimes called a half vowel, but either way, it's not a vowel.


The word 'happy' is pronounced 'ha-pee'. The letter 'y' represents an 'ee' sound, which is quite clearly a vowel sound. Hence, 'y' is a vowel.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. " - Bertrand Russell
The Triumph of Stupidity in Mortals and Others 1931-1935
2008-12-10, 8:50 AM #27
Originally posted by Vin:
'R' is a vowel.


Yes, actually, depending.
2008-12-10, 8:52 AM #28
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vowel

Quote:

In English spelling, the five letters A E I O and U can represent a variety of vowel sounds, while the letter Y frequently represents vowels (as in e.g. "gym" or "happy");


It can represent a vowel, but it isn't one. In English anyway.

Anyway, I've got more important things to do now than debate the voweliness of the letter y, like leave the office and go home!
2008-12-10, 9:10 AM #29
Originally posted by Vornskr:
Yes, actually, depending.

Not if you're scottish. 1 R is actually worth about 12 in a row for me. :(
nope.
2008-12-10, 9:16 AM #30
I like to consider the other 11 optional.
Sneaky sneaks. I'm actually a werewolf. Woof.
2008-12-10, 9:26 AM #31
Hence we don't attempt proper pronounciation often. :P
nope.
2008-12-10, 10:33 AM #32
Originally posted by Martyn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vowel

Quote:
In English spelling, the five letters A E I O and U can represent a variety of vowel sounds, while the letter Y frequently represents vowels (as in e.g. "gym" or "happy");



It can represent a vowel, but it isn't one. In English anyway.

Anyway, I've got more important things to do now than debate the voweliness of the letter y, like leave the office and go home!



...

They both represent vowel sounds. A E I O U always represent vowel sounds while Y sometimes represents a vowel sound. Letters make different sounds depending on the word they're used in.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. " - Bertrand Russell
The Triumph of Stupidity in Mortals and Others 1931-1935
2008-12-10, 10:45 AM #33
vwls r stpd.
2008-12-10, 10:52 AM #34
Is this thread starting to remind anyone else of the 'Does .9999~ = 1' thread? :carl:
DO NOT WANT.
2008-12-10, 11:03 AM #35
The longest word in english language without vowel is Skynyrd

it's so obvious even my girlfriend knows it and she just a dumb hobag
2008-12-10, 11:06 AM #36
Hey, I just asked a simple question... >.>
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Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2008-12-10, 11:28 AM #37
PS i love moneydotbie
DO NOT WANT.
2008-12-10, 11:46 AM #38
is this your 14 year old girl pickup line?
2008-12-10, 12:16 PM #39
I took this as the longest word without traditional vowels.
like...

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2008-12-10, 12:21 PM #40
Originally posted by Molgrew:
is this your 14 year old girl pickup line?


No, that would be:

"Come on, baby. You know you want it...

Just let it happen."

(That was actually an inside joke between me and a friend a few years ago.)
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