Today at around 1:00 pm a gun fight started, near my neighborhood, about 6 min walking distance. Not sure who is doing this but people assume that its the zetas.

The gun fight is still raging on, and its 6:32 pm right now. Police sirens and gun fire is heard around here.

News says that they were using hand grenades on the traffic to discourage pursuit, and caused many car accidents. I've heard reports that at least 20 people have been killed. They are targeting anyone who is on the streets.

Its a bit scary, but violence like this has been happening for the last 8 months or so, except this is city wide violence. The army, the FFA, and the local police are trying to lock it down, but these guys are dispersed all over the city, I don't know how long it will last, and I hope it doesn't come to my front door.

EDIT: Google translated the newspaper article which is reporting this, for afternoon news, you can't see the article entirely unless you have an account. The article came out some hours ago.

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i recommend you kung fu they asses

Here in rochester we have already had 3 murders so far today.


Thats a total of 9 for us within the past two weeks. Killing is all the rage up here.

Well last year (2008), nation wade, the zetas have killed over 5600 people according to an article I was reading. Apparently 20 people have been killed, today alone.

Third world countries dont count >.<

but yeah that sucks.


The ones we get up here aren't even over anything. Its pretty much..
"50 Cent and Lil' Wayne say killing people is cool, so lets do it!"
"YEAH!"

Onimusha - rochester where?

SF_Gold - that sucks. :/ Stay inside and stay safe.

Yeah, be careful. We don't need to be losing any more massassians.

If I heard gunshots I'd be cowering in my house hugging my guns and crying. But don't tell anyone. Tell them I'd be out ramboing in the streets.

I've heard getting shot during mexican kung fu gang wars does bad things for your parkour abilities.

Be safe, GoldG.

Legalizing marijuana in the US would help.

I legalized marijuana in my pants last night, if you know what I mean.

Legalizing pot wouldn't solve the issue that you would now have a bunch of stoned idiots running around with guns, rather than just a bunch of idiots with guns.

This stuff happens nightly here almost

Fixed.

(Please. I'll pay your heir a dollar!)

People high on pot do not run around shooting people. Mostly, they do nothing. Nothing at all.

i have seen a number of people get stoned and then drive. it is quite frightening.

also: try and stay safe GoldG thats some crazy stuff!

I think ocassional pot use is okay. But stonners are awful people. They'd probably definately be too lazy to shoot someone though.

"Stoner culture" needs to be eradicated before any legalization of pot.

But if you legalize pot hippies will have one less thing to ***** about, and their entire culture is based on *****ing about things and then not doing anything useful about it!

And so is the reason Canada rocks.

Sorry, had to say it. I have to say it everytime guns are involved lol.

Keep an eye out and be safe

Canada sucks. A lot.

Ok... well its all over apparently... and I got my hours wrong, it started at around 3:00 pm...

Anyhow... there are no official reports of people being killed, there are reports of car accidents, injuries and arrests, but why is everyone insisting people have been killed?

Something is wrong here.

something is wrong here

The Zetas are a rowdy bunch. They got kicked off our campus in '06 after the infamous llama incident.

The only people that say that are jealous Americans

NY

Legalizing marijuana in this country would help out Mexico a LOT. Mexico is on its way to becoming like Afghanistan: ruled by rival drug/war lords. More and more members of gangs and drug cartels are infiltrating their government and police, and given how corrupt Mexico's government already is, the country is definitely on it's way to ruin. Start growing weed legally in the US, and all those gangs and cartels are going to run out of money pretty quick.

what are zetas, what country is this...sorry for my noobness

Country Mexico.

Zetas? Heres a wikipedia article, although the information is sort of out of date...

I'm sorry... you don't live here, and you don't understand whats going on. Lots of corruption has been cracked down on recently, that's why the violence is growing, because the drug cartels have been losing their positions in the government and other institutions. They are mad because the U.S. has in the custody their leader, which Mexico gave them in 2007. He still awaits trial. These guys are trying to terrorize the public so that they vote for PRI(a politcal party that was in power for more than 70 years, rumors of having made deals with drug lords) instead of PAN (the current dominate political party, which started the entire no more corruption and drug war)

The PRI never really jumped on the drug lords, atleast not at the scale the PAN is doing. In 2008, more top leaders of these drug organizations have been caught than ever before, and now for the first time since I have memory, the government is rewarding 15 thousand pesos (1500 dollars roughly) for every zeta or narc trafficator caught by information provided by an individual. This has started to make people who know the organization members turn on em. In my opinion, the war is going well, and this is the general opinion in mexico.

People use drugs here, yes, but its not very widespread, and the few people I know who do pot, or anything else, all have troubles in their life, which is directly or indirectly related to their drug use.

Mexico should not legalize marijuana, this has been tried, and the general population, an undisputed majority disagreed.

sorry to here that man, im very against drugs and i respect the struggle to fight them in your country

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fg-mexico-drugwar28-2008dec28,0,418598.story








Yeah, sounds like it's going great.

Sinaloa has always been a problem, thats not news to me, thats where these guys are based.

200 cities/ towns? Do you know how big a town is here? A couple hundred of people make a town. Its quite easy to control a couple hundred with 20 - 30 armed men + bribes.

The reason these guys rose to power in the first place is because of the general poverty of people, making them easy to buy out, and since america buys soo much of their stuff, its easy money.

Things are changing.

Before, the typical mexican cop in my city was this:

Overweight, poorly trained, poorly equiped, and incredibly corrupt.

In the last few months, the cops I've been seeing that are now dominating are in great physical condition, with greater weaponry and vehicles, far better training, and the corruption and bribing that happened from day to day to get off the hook for traffic violations and such, is going down and down. The drug use among cops is also going down.

Things are changing, I and others are first hand witnesses of it.

I've been reading articles in english or written by americans of their impression of the war on drugs here. Mostly Ridiculous.

I was reading one about Sierra Madre.... I can tell you I've been there many a time, as a Mexican (if I don't tell people, they never know I am really an American), and its not that bad.

Change is happening. The war is hard, but eventually, the army will triumph. The recent uprising in violence is a sign of desperation from the cartels. They are loosing their money, lands, followers and leaders. They can't sustain this type of war for long and they know it.

Didn't your leaders say the exact same thing pretty much (in and out in a week or so?) when this war first started 7 years ago?

How do we get America out of recession? Legalize and tax this ****.

I don't see how legalizing marijuana in the US would help mexico..


Maybe if people in the US quit buying that **** MEXICAN WEED then that might help out more..