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Anyone remember lil Hitler? (possibly old news or wrong story)
2009-01-23, 8:20 PM #1
Hmm... amiright?
Nothing to see here, move along.
2009-01-23, 9:32 PM #2
WT...F? :confused:
And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.
2009-01-23, 9:37 PM #3
old news, but this gets me:
Quote:
"DYFS would never remove a child simply based on that child's name," Bernyk said.

Which, of course, is exactly what they're doing :P
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2009-01-23, 10:38 PM #4
Originally posted by Darkjedibob:
old news, but this gets me:

Which, of course, is exactly what they're doing :P


Well, in this case, the children carry a provacative name which will be the cause and reason of bullying and problems for the rest of their lives. Something must be wrong with their parents to name their kid after a figure that WILL cause trouble.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2009-01-23, 11:30 PM #5
Originally posted by Darkjedibob:
old news, but this gets me:

Which, of course, is exactly what they're doing :P

How can you tell?
2009-01-24, 12:16 AM #6
**** fox news

2009-01-24, 12:17 AM #7
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
Well, in this case, the children carry a provacative name which will be the cause and reason of bullying and problems for the rest of their lives. Something must be wrong with their parents to name their kid after a figure that WILL cause trouble.

i can say the same thing about someone naming a child jesus or mohommad
and i know a lot of mexican jesuses and arabic mohommads

2009-01-24, 6:24 AM #8
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
;977393']How can you tell?


[quote='the article']Forensic psychologist N.G. Berrill said naming a boy Hitler could be considered child abuse.
...
unpopular first names, when mixed with factors like a disadvantaged home life, can increase the tendency toward juvenile delinquency.
...
"I’ve dealt with the family for years and as far as the children are concerned, I have never had any reports of any abuse with the children," Harris said. "As far as I know, he’s always been very good with the children."[/quote]
No problems at home, and they're taking away kids named Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation? Claiming naming kids that is abuse? How the hell is that *not* removing them just on their name?
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2009-01-24, 6:40 AM #9
Originally posted by Darkjedibob:
No problems at home, and they're taking away kids named Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation? Claiming naming kids that is abuse? How the hell is that *not* removing them just on their name?


Quote:
Police were not told what the agency was investigating.


I'm not sure how it works in the rest of the country, but in NH, DCYF investigates child abuse cases.
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2009-01-24, 9:40 AM #10
The article makes it very ambiguous as to why the children were removed. Yes, there's a bunch of comments by people expressing the opinion that naming kids like that should be considered child abuse, but no where does it actually state that this was the reason the children were removed.

Remember, all too often it's in the families that show no outward sign of abuse that there is a hidden case of abuse occurring.

I should like to think that the agency had more of a reason to remove the kids then just their names. I think that if that were the case, they would have been removed sooner.
2009-01-24, 12:12 PM #11
Should the child who's parents named him "Microsoft" as a means to get attention and money be taken away as well? The grounds of that argument would be that child shouldn't have been used as a marketing tool and that his future endeavors in calling in for Windows text support have been slashed.
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2009-01-24, 1:26 PM #12
For an organization that claims to support the notion of white superiority and generalized eugenics there sure are a lot of brown-haired brown-eyed pasty butterfaced neo-nazis.
2009-01-24, 3:33 PM #13
SIEG HEIL!
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2009-01-24, 5:25 PM #14
old news
2009-01-24, 5:25 PM #15
wrong story, guy
2009-01-25, 10:25 PM #16
Originally posted by TheNewKid:
i can say the same thing about someone naming a child jesus or mohommad
and i know a lot of mexican jesuses and arabic mohommads


The only difference is Jesus has been a common name for hundreds of years, even in the time of Jesus, many people were called Jesus.

As for people being named Mohammed, I thought that wasn't allowed, don't they kill people if you name them after their main Prophet? Are you getting confused with Achmed?

Now, lets not compare Jesus with Adolf Hitler, its the equivalent of comparing Luke Skywalker with Darth Vader.

Heres a better, more visually clear example, black and white.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2009-01-25, 10:42 PM #17
i think they were both white

2009-01-26, 5:24 AM #18
Muhammad is one of the most common names in the world. So..I think you might have just made whatever you were saying up.
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2009-01-26, 12:12 PM #19
sf_goldg_01
2009-01-26, 12:30 PM #20
Originally posted by BobTheMasher:
Muhammad is one of the most common names in the world. So..I think you might have just made whatever you were saying up.


Wasn't there an article in the news where parents were angered because a teacher named a puppet Muhammad in arabic country?

Anyhow, my point is, these are ancient names that have been used for centuries, and are associated to positive figures, unlike Hitler, which is a generally negative figure.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2009-01-26, 1:47 PM #21
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
Wasn't there an article in the news where parents were angered because a teacher named a puppet Muhammad in arabic country?


ok
2009-01-26, 2:12 PM #22
You mean this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7112929.stm

Which both backs up your case, and, weirdly, BobtheMashers

Quote:
The spokesman said the naming of the teddy happened months ago and was chosen by the children because it is a common name in the country.


So who knows what the deal is there.
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2009-01-26, 2:38 PM #23
this thread reminds me of this

2009-01-26, 2:43 PM #24
Originally posted by Deadman:
You mean this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7112929.stm

Which both backs up your case, and, weirdly, BobtheMashers



So who knows what the deal is there.


All right, I was wrong about Muhammed not being a common name... still it isn't a name associated by the great majority of the world as evil.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2009-01-26, 3:03 PM #25
Originally posted by Deadman:
So who knows what the deal is there.
The deal is that Sudan is Arab-dominated. 61.1% literacy rates, a long history of religious warfare and institutional Shari'a (Muslim law).

This woman was arrested because someone claimed that a teddy bear named Mohammad was a craven image of the prophet, which is illegal under Shari'a. Corrupt and politically-minded judges convicted her. The president pardoned her on request of the British government so corrupt and politically-minded imams convinced the public to riot. The Sudanese are not allowed to make up their own minds or inform themselves which makes it a pretty reasonable case study of what will happen in the rest of the Arab world when they run out of oil.
2009-01-26, 3:06 PM #26
Yeah my statement was kinda rhetorical Jon`C...
I said that because the bear was given a name that is common in the country. Which is why I said it directly after the posted quote.
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2009-01-26, 3:25 PM #27
Originally posted by Deadman:
Yeah my statement was kinda rhetorical Jon`C...
Good for you. I'm explaining the situation in more detail because you didn't: The teddy bear could be considered a depiction of Mohammad under Shari'a, but it's impossible to make the same argument about an actual human being.

With regards to the popularity of Jesus as a name: Jesus is popular in principally Roman Catholic-heavy countries speaking romanic languages (i.e. Spain and Mexico). 'Jesus' itself, as spoken in English, is incorrect - it's based on a translation from Latin, which didn't have a hard 'J'. For that matter the original Latin rendition is incorrect, as it was derived from a pronunciation-ignorant transliteration from Greek. Jesus was actually named Joshua.
2009-01-26, 3:31 PM #28
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Good for you. I'm explaining the situation in more detail because you didn't: The teddy bear could be considered a depiction of Mohammad under Shari'a, but it's impossible to make the same argument about an actual human being


Good for you, whenever I need something obvious explained with veiled hostility I'll be sure to give you a call.

(and no, me pointing out the humour of something does not mean I don't see the logical side of it)
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2009-01-26, 4:36 PM #29
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Good for you. I'm explaining the situation in more detail because you didn't: The teddy bear could be considered a depiction of Mohammad under Shari'a, but it's impossible to make the same argument about an actual human being.

With regards to the popularity of Jesus as a name: Jesus is popular in principally Roman Catholic-heavy countries speaking romanic languages (i.e. Spain and Mexico). 'Jesus' itself, as spoken in English, is incorrect - it's based on a translation from Latin, which didn't have a hard 'J'. For that matter the original Latin rendition is incorrect, as it was derived from a pronunciation-ignorant transliteration from Greek. Jesus was actually named Joshua.


I am Jesus?? :cool:
woot!
2009-01-26, 5:03 PM #30
Originally posted by Jon`C:
With regards to the popularity of Jesus as a name: Jesus is popular in principally Roman Catholic-heavy countries speaking romanic languages (i.e. Spain and Mexico). 'Jesus' itself, as spoken in English, is incorrect - it's based on a translation from Latin, which didn't have a hard 'J'. For that matter the original Latin rendition is incorrect, as it was derived from a pronunciation-ignorant transliteration from Greek. Jesus was actually named Joshua.


I think the original Hebrew and Aramaic name of Jesus was Yeshua.
2009-01-26, 5:26 PM #31
Originally posted by Deadman:
Good for you, whenever I blah blah blah
Deadman, it might surprise you but sometimes people will quote your post not to retort or reply to it, but rather to expound on the ideas you set forth. It might also surprise you to discover that there people on this forum other than you, and that not every post is made for your personal benefit. I challenge you to re-read your original post and my first reply and figure out exactly where the veiled hostility originated.

i.e. Wash the sand out.

Originally posted by Anakin9012:
Yeshua
Or Yahshua or Yahshuah or any other inevitably flawed attempt to transliterate the name. 'Joshua' follows the same logic as 'Jesus', except the translation of 'Jesus' was far more circuitous. 'Joshua' is a much more direct translation and unlike Yeshua it's not alien to our language.
2009-01-26, 5:29 PM #32
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Or Yahshua or Yahshuah or any other inevitably flawed attempt to transliterate the name. 'Joshua' follows the same logic as 'Jesus', except the translation of 'Jesus' was far more circuitous. 'Joshua' is a much more direct translation and unlike Yeshua it's not alien to our language.


I know, I wasn't disagreeing. I just meant that Yeshua or something similar was the original Hebrew name of Jesus.
2009-01-26, 7:21 PM #33
EDIT:
Bah, nevermind.
I have to realize an intellectual troll is still a troll. The words are different but the end result is the same.
I'll just deal with it how I should have in the first place.
You can't judge a book by it's file size
2009-01-26, 8:16 PM #34
Originally posted by Deadman:
I have to realize an intellectual troll is still a troll.
I didn't realize I was the one who was trolling.

Who here thinks I'm trolling Deadman? Anybody?
2009-01-26, 8:26 PM #35
Originally posted by Jon`C:
I didn't realize I was the one who was trolling.

Who here thinks I'm trolling Deadman? Anybody?


I would answer that, but I know that your next post would still fall under a troll post. It will anyways.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2009-01-26, 8:28 PM #36
SF_GoldG standing up to trolling. That's a riot. Good job.

Wonderful thread so far.
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2009-01-26, 8:36 PM #37
hey guys, TROLLS AREN'T real

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