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Fun with lying.
2009-01-24, 7:49 PM #1
Not so much on the internet but in real life. And not really about simple exaggerations or small untruths.

You meet someone you know, said person lies to you and you know he or she is lying, what do you typically do with that?

What I mean is: do you immediately expose his/her lies before the conversation ends? Do you wait for a later situation to expose lies? Allow him/her to continue to bury himself/herself with lying? Or you simply accept that people lie and don't really do anything about it?

For me, it usually depends on the person. But something about outright lying brings the true colors out of people, and I sometimes can't help but let said person to continue lying because it seems one of the best ways to personally know somebody. I rarely expose him/her on the spot.
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2009-01-24, 8:01 PM #2
yeah i let it go usually. it's usually funny.
Peace is a lie
There is only passion
Through passion I gain strength
Through strength I gain power
Through power I gain victory
Through victory my chains are broken
The Force shall set me free
2009-01-24, 8:15 PM #3
usually let it go on, but it can depend on the situation
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2009-01-24, 8:27 PM #4
Expose them in the most humiliating way possible.
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2009-01-24, 8:32 PM #5
Ummm, like you can really tell when you first meet someone.

I think people have an exagerrated ego that tells them that they are great at detecting lies. That drives me pretty nuts.
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2009-01-24, 8:43 PM #6
I didn't say meeting a person for the first time.
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2009-01-24, 8:55 PM #7
I let it go but I do a really bad job of hiding that I think they're complete wankers.
2009-01-24, 9:02 PM #8
In working as a wilderness instructor for a wilderness therapy program, I dealt with a fair amount of teenagers who would lie or deny things left and right. When it was incredibly obvious that they were lying, the best thing to do was to point out the fallacy of what they were saying, and end the conversation with a statement along the lines of "And the best part is, I know that you know exactly what I'm talking about. I don't even need to waste time explaining it to you or discussing it with you." And then refuse to continue the conversation with them.
2009-01-24, 9:05 PM #9
Originally posted by Freelancer:
Ummm, like you can really tell when you first meet someone.


Originally posted by ECHOMAN:
You meet someone you know, said person lies to you and you-
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For me it depends on why they are lying. If they are lying for no reason (I know a couple of people that do that) then I just don't pay it any heed. I rarely talk to people like that anyway, and trying to get them to admit truth is just a huge waste of time.
If they are lying because they don't want to admit something... well it depends on what that is too.
See, this lying situation you have brought up is far too vague for me to say "I would do this" life is messy, and there are often lies, for good, bad or sometimes just nonsensical reasons.
How I would deal with it depends entirely on the person, the lie, the reason for lying and probably some other random factors too.
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2009-01-24, 10:03 PM #10
I hate morons who get offended if you don't believe their lies, even after you've explained how you've found out that they are lying.
2009-01-24, 11:57 PM #11
I **** liars.

2009-01-25, 12:28 AM #12
Originally posted by Freelancer:
Ummm, like you can really tell when you first meet someone.

There's a certain kind of bull****ter that's easy to spot a mile away.

Like The Topper from Dilbert:
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2009-01-25, 5:49 AM #13
Sometimes I lie for fun, saying increasingly outrageous things and see how long the person believes me for. Eventually I admit to it though cause it's more fun that way.
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2009-01-25, 7:03 AM #14
depending on whether I know they are lying and whether I know anything about what they are lying about...(I'm sure that makes sense somehow)...I normally try to see how big a hole I can make them dig themselves into.

I rarely expose them, just end the conversation with the satisfaction of knowing they are lying and that they just made a complete fool of themselves.
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2009-01-25, 7:37 AM #15
Originally posted by dalf:
Expose them in the most humiliating way possible.


"Hi, what's your name?"

"My name is Ted."

"HEAR THAT EVERYONE?!?! THE GREAT DECEIVER CLAIMS HIS NAME IS "TED" WHEN WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S REALLY... ... ... THEODORE!!!"

"No, it actually says 'Ted' on my birth certificate."

"Damn new age names."
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2009-01-25, 11:27 AM #16
This is my job! I work for parking enforcement, I spend ALL DAY getting lied to!

I lead them along to let them fully develop whatever lie they're trying to pass off, then I provide each piece of evidence that destroys that lie. Then I stop listening to them, because at that point they know they're busted and get very very mad. I usually tell 'em some way I'm being nice to help calm them down, but it usually doesn't help much.

Example:

Dude running up to me: "Hey! I just ran inside for a few minutes!"

Me: "Sir, is this your car?"

dude: "Yeah! I was just dropping something off, I was only parked there for 5 minutes!"

Me: "Sir, this isn't a parking spot, it's a loading zone. There's a 30 minute limit."

dude: "I know it's a loading zone, I don't have a permit for this lot and I needed a place to park for a couple minutes. I wasn't there longer than 30 minutes."

Me: "I saw your car and chalked you in my palm this morning at 7:30, 3 and a half hours ago. You parked here all night and left it all morning. You got a ticket for parking in a loading zone. It's a $30 ticket. I could have written you for every 30 minutes you were parked here past the initial 30 minutes, but you haven't been caught doing this before so I went easy on you. Have a good day."

dude: "YOU GUYS ARE ****ING *******S. DON'T YOU HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO THAN WRITE TICKETS ALL DAY?"

(Yeah, I could sit at home at watch TV, but it's my JOB. I wouldn't be able to pay RENT.)
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2009-01-25, 12:36 PM #17
What I like to do is to get them to talk about it more and see how far they are willing to go with the lie.
After a while I usually have a big smirk on my face and they are like "What's so funny?"
Usually I just go "Nothing..." but once in a while I'll be like "Yea, BS."

I must say, on the opposite end of this, I love lying to random people to see what I can get away with. Just make up complete BS crazy stories and see if they beleive me.
2009-01-25, 1:51 PM #18
I thought this thread was going be about having fun by lying. Which I do all the time with little things >_>

For instance, something like:
Friend: I wonder who came up with bagels.
Me: There's one of those folklores that says it was the family of this really fat and lazy guy.
Friend: Haha what?
Me: So the story goes that his family was leaving on a journey, and he didn't know how to cook or anything. So his family made a ton of bread for him with holes in them and strung them on a necklace for him so all he had to do was look down to eat something.
Friend: Oh wow, really?
Me: I mean, it's just a folklore .. obviously that's not really where they came from but it's fun to think about.
Friend: Yeahh.

(5 min later)
Me: Oh yeah, dude, I was just making that fat guy bagel thing up. There's no such folklore.*


If nothing it's a fun way to practice your acting ... I've gotten pretty good at being convincing most of the time >_< There have been a few times when people have caught on, though (especially after they knew I was doing this so it was almost a game of trying to sneak one past them)



*Side note: Actually, this is in fact a real Chinese folklore/parable, but not with bagels. There is a baked good called 'You bing' in China (literally: Oil bread ... imagine like a cross between pizza dough and a tortilla). The story was about a fat guy whose family made of those for him in a ring around his neck and left on vacation, but after a few days he had eaten away all the outsides and he was too fat to bend his neck in all the way and eat the insides, and too lazy/stupid to just pull the thing off with his hands, so he starved to death before his family came back.
一个大西瓜
2009-01-25, 2:20 PM #19
*five minutes later*

Oh yeah, Massassi, I was just making that fat guy "you bing" thing up. There's no such folklore.
2009-01-25, 2:23 PM #20
Hahaha >_<

No but that one actually is true. My mom told me that when I was a kid to illustrate the importance of doing things for yourself and not always relying on others. Unless she made that story up too.
一个大西瓜
2009-01-25, 2:27 PM #21
Yea, Pommy, that is exactly what I was talking about in my post - I love doing it.

Once in a while, if it's a wild story, and it appears they are believing me I'll just stop mid-sentence and be like "what? No, this is all BS, you know, right?"
2009-01-25, 5:24 PM #22
liar liar pants on fire hanging from a telephone wiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrre
Peace is a lie
There is only passion
Through passion I gain strength
Through strength I gain power
Through power I gain victory
Through victory my chains are broken
The Force shall set me free

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