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The Student As N***er
2009-02-01, 11:50 PM #41
I believe I have made a mistake and I concede to the above posters.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2009-02-02, 5:59 PM #42
Oh, I forgot.

Originally posted by Emon:
I kind of agree with this, but, how much of exposure are you talking? As of now, you wouldn't be able to fit full courses (one semester) in for all those areas.
Alberta high schools have a range of courses called Career and Technology Studies. They're mostly optional, but a high school diploma requires you to have a certain amount of credits in CTS. Courses vary from high school to high school: mine had stuff like IT, design/drafting, law, psychology/sociology, business/management, career and life management, engine mechanics, metalworking/welding, carpentry, cooking/food service, tourism, forensic sciences, various art and music programs, various language and culture programs, religious studies, and agriculture/forestry/conservation.

The opportunities were there, but nobody could possibly take all of these courses like you said. There are other issues, too: when I took law it was way too in-depth for a high school course; on the other extreme, there simply wasn't enough information to fill an entire semester of psychology classes. Whether you look at the course scheduling or at the curriculum these programs are not designed to be introductory. I think they should be.

You really don't need to spend a lot of time to make someone competent at any trade at a basic level. You can do virtually anything electrical, plumbing, pipefitting or framing after 8 hours of instruction and practical work each. You can do any household tilesetting or roofing after about an hour of training. Spend an extra 16 hours on estimation and construction theory and any re-re can walk out of the class and stick a deck on the back of his house in a weekend.

I think there would be a lot of pluses to making a mandatory high school program that would teach everybody this sort of thing. Any homeowner should know how to do all of this. If you need to call a plumber to replace a toilet you should not be allowed to own a home.

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Students make a big deal about it, but it's really because they are terrible at managing their time.
Narcissistic/Histrionic personality disorders are fairly typical of the age group. I'm pretty sure that has more to do with why teenagers make a big deal out of high school.

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I think high school needs to be restructured to be more like university.
Alberta high school is (or was, at least) exactly like this.
2009-02-02, 6:20 PM #43
Originally posted by Zloc_Vergo:
My school is structured that there are 3 basic, very easy science classes you can take to fulfill your 3 (or maybe it's 4 and Biology is required, I'm not sure) science credits for high school.

Sometimes the tiering idea works. Sometimes it doesn't. Here science is pretty straightforward but Mathematics is a cluster**** of getting bumped from track to track.

You only need two science courses and a single 20-level math to graduate, but it's not like it'll help you in life. If you want to go to an Albertan university the only five courses they'll care about are Pure Mathematics 30, Mathematics 31, Physics 30, Biology 30 and Chemistry 30 so the rest are really just degrees of failure.
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