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Pokemon Platinum
2009-03-29, 9:41 AM #1
Anyone playing this game? I got it and it's a big difference from the last pokemon game I played, Blue.

Right now I'm at the Eterna Gym. Should have picked that fire guy.

2009-03-29, 9:45 AM #2
After I got one of the precious stone versions, and realized it was no different from the blue version I played so long ago, I gave up on Pokemon games.
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2009-03-29, 9:45 AM #3
I preferred the beginning of Diamond and Pearl, mostly for the minute shoutout to the second generation.
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2009-03-29, 9:58 AM #4
My friend and I, back in December, said we would get a complete international pokedex in my copy of the game by the end of the summer.

I've maybe played the game for three hours since then. I just find the games too repetitive and slow to keep playing for too long.
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2009-03-29, 4:21 PM #5
Originally posted by JediKirby:
After I got one of the precious stone versions, and realized it was no different from the blue version I played so long ago, I gave up on Pokemon games.


Yeah I guess the addition of:

A. Breeding.
B. Tutoring.
C. 350 pokemon
D. A bunch of new types
E. Almost entirely different storyline (The only similarities being the existance of a "Team", a professor, the gyms, and the starter stuff)
F. Berry gardening
G. Legendary/shiny pokemon
H. Wifi Battling/trading
I. Events
J. Contests
K. 3D graphics

was "no difference". :downswords:
2009-03-29, 4:25 PM #6
I never played Pokemon.

Because its lame.
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2009-03-29, 4:27 PM #7
mbisfat? more like mbislame
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2009-03-29, 6:17 PM #8
Originally posted by mb:
I never played Pokemon.

Because its lame.



People who never played Pokemon are lame.
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2009-03-29, 6:34 PM #9
Originally posted by mb:
I never played Pokemon.

Because its lame.


This.
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2009-03-30, 1:11 AM #10
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
*Gets Butthurt*


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2009-03-30, 5:40 AM #11
Originally posted by Commander 598:
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Can't get butthurt over stupidity. :downs:
2009-03-30, 6:57 AM #12
I want to catch Arceus.
No action play :(

2009-03-30, 7:55 AM #13
Those things are all mini-games and gimmicks. Pokemon has yet to reinvent itself and offer a new experience. There's no more fun because I can plant berries, it's just another version of items.

If there was 30 Mario platformers that were all the same game with new variances, I'd be saying the exact same thing. Luckily, Mario has reinvented itself every few years, and even its 2D properties have completely new gameplay and experiences. The strategy and experience in Pokemon has not changed since the very firs game. It's why I haven't played a 2D Zelda game since I beat Seasons. It's why I haven't played a Tekken game since Tekken 2.
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2009-03-30, 8:03 AM #14
But it has changed significantly. Almost everything I listed impacts the gameplay, including berries (which can be used by pokemon in battle to various effects). Considering Pokemon is about capturing and battling, I don't see how you can expect much more than a refined and far more advanced battling system. The move to 3D was significant, and Platinum makes even better use of it (such as the new area which removes the top-down view). The red/blue versions are laughable in complexity compared to what you'd find in the DS versions.
2009-03-30, 8:13 AM #15
But I still go city to city in the EXACT same fashion. The layout of bushes and roads has all of the same hooks and tricks. The Pokemon have become nearly indistinguishable, since many of them share such similar stats, or are at least interchangeable. I still hunt for badges and fight a team, and all of this was in the first game. Hell, I personally think combat has been broken since the first game, since the closest thing to strategy is when you let your pokemon evolve/take new skills.

Will they ever develop a new, more interesting battle system? Will they ever develop the role of a Pokemon beyond battling? Will there ever be a multilayer aspect that's more than the SP game?

It's a generic JRPG that's easy to reproduce and add variant rules to without having to actually think of anything new or compelling to keep people playing. Does planting berried really change the game for you to where it's not just a leveling grind? It was fun at first, but now I'm bored with it. The only thing I really do like that's new is breading.
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2009-03-30, 8:43 AM #16
A. Most, if not all of the pokemon are not even close to similar, even among the same types. Movesets and stats have significant impact.
B. You don't go from city to city in the same fashion. I could go into the various new HMs and bicycling tricks needed to do so, but I think you can do that research for yourself.
C. Getting the badges is merely the first part of the game, unlike Red/Blue, where it WAS the game. Catching all 151 and beating the Elite Four was all you had to do. Beating the Elite Four is nothing more than good experience and training for the various events and quests you do afterwards. (Such as going after Cyrus in Platinum)
D. If you think there's no complexity to the battling system, you haven't heard of Effort Values. It's what makes your lvl 99 mewtwo absolutely terrible compared to a friend's lvl 99 mewtwo. It takes a LOT of research and bookkeeping to make your team truly the "best", and not simply "enough to beat the Elite Four".
E. In addition, there's other mechanics such as abilities and weather that have significant impact on how a battle will progress.

And what do you mean by "multiplayer aspect more than an SP game"? It has battling, trading, and if you're really bored, various minigames. I don't know what else you'd do?
2009-03-30, 8:49 AM #17
I guess this is just where we differ. I consider all of those things supplemental to the experience of the game, which to me, has remained the same.
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2009-03-30, 9:15 AM #18
The last Pokemon anything I played or bought was Yellow. I haven't like this franchise since Jr. High.
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2009-03-30, 12:29 PM #19
To be honest, if you want a change of pace and a cripplingly depressing storyline, I recommend the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games.

Basically a cash-in roguelike, but it's still fun.
Hey, Blue? I'm loving the things you do. From the very first time, the fight you fight for will always be mine.
2009-03-30, 12:39 PM #20
"Pokemon" calls to mind the image of five 12 year olds in Speedos crowded around a Gameboy at a swim meet for five hours.
2009-03-30, 1:45 PM #21
You watched them the entire time?
2009-03-30, 1:55 PM #22
he was one of them.
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2009-03-30, 1:57 PM #23
...Oh:saddowns:

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