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Pictures of SW DVD changes, are these for real?
2004-08-21, 9:46 AM #1
A New Hope

Empire Strikes Back

The Return of the Jedi

Edit: I strangely don't see the purported Hayden ghost in the Return of the Jedi changes, or the added Naboo celebration. So either those other site are wrong, or these sites are wrong.

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2004-08-21, 9:54 AM #2
I think the Naboo celebration and Hayden Christensen are confirmed, as are others that I don't remember now. I wouldn't be surprised if those were all authentic.

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2004-08-21, 9:57 AM #3
Hmm, whatever. I just want those DVD's.

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2004-08-21, 10:00 AM #4
There was already a thread about this a couple weeks ago where the changes were torn apart as is the usual with anything star wars around here.

The Hayden and Naboo in RotJ has been confirmed. There was a leak in the audio commentary for the film where Lucas and Ben Burt are talking about the reason for the addition. They said your spirit becomes one with the force when you die, as was the case with Obi-wan and Yoda. Anakin dies at the end of Episode III when Darth Vader is born, but his soul is trapped until Vader is destroyed.

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2004-08-21, 10:04 AM #5
http://perso.club-internet.fr/willow/SW_Changes/SW_Changes_15.htm

WHY?

Lightsabers are the best thing about star wars.. and now they're making them all look like a newbie's 2-minute photoshop job!

Ugh.

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2004-08-21, 10:06 AM #6
So, why didn't Qui-Gon or all the Jedi in Ep II become one with the force when they died? They still haven't explained that.
2004-08-21, 10:14 AM #7
I could tell you if you wanted me to spoil Episode III for you.

And all those are still frames, you won't notice much of a difference other than the fact that they look a little bit more crisp, like the lightsabers of Episodes I and II.

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2004-08-21, 10:14 AM #8
The Special Edition, don't you know them.

I saw them in the Cinema when I was 6 years old.

Han an Jabba are taliking in the SE of A new hope.

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2004-08-21, 10:16 AM #9
And in the SE from Episode 5 you will see an AT-ST!!!!!!!

After seeing the SE in Cinema, I saw the original and thought: What the?
Since that day know why it is called Special Edition.
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2004-08-21, 10:32 AM #10
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by G-Man:
The Special Edition, don't you know them.

I saw them in the Cinema when I was 6 years old.

Han an Jabba are taliking in the SE of A new hope.

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They Updated the Han and Jabba part for ANH with a closer look-a-like version of Jabba, rather then the one they used for the adding of the scene
And: http://perso.club-internet.fr/willow/SW_Changes/ESB_Changes_04.htm
They Made Yoda Greener...


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2004-08-21, 10:37 AM #11
One change I love is the picture quality [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] the others seem.. unnecessary.

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2004-08-21, 10:44 AM #12
...why did they change the guy who played the unmasked Darth Vader?

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2004-08-21, 10:48 AM #13
All the new sabers look like trash. I want the ORIGINA UN-CHANGED FILMS damn it!!!! The new jabba looks like crap, I really liked the old one :/

http://perso.club-internet.fr/willow/SW_Changes/ROTJ_Changes_09.htm <-- What the hell are they doing to the sabers??!?!

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2004-08-21, 10:58 AM #14
Those lightsabers do look awful... they look a lot better with the white cores and the colored fringes. I can only hope that those images are fakes.

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2004-08-21, 10:58 AM #15
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Darth J:
I could tell you if you wanted me to spoil Episode III for you.

And all those are still frames, you won't notice much of a difference other than the fact that they look a little bit more crisp, like the lightsabers of Episodes I and II.

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There's a BIG difference between the Episode I and Episode II sabers. Episode I's sabers were smoother, the glow faded out. Episode II's sabers were almost solid color and very sharp. These sabers look closer to Episode II's, unfortunately.

Also, for some of the sabers, I don't believe that they are on the fault of Lucasfilm. I think they are only a mere matter of the person who took the screencap's video settings.

If you take the picture and put it into photoshop, open up the levels and set the color in the core as the "white" in the picture it looks fine.

Original:
[http://darkestspiral.greentinted.com/temp/esb_1.jpg]

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[http://darkestspiral.greentinted.com/temp/esb_2.jpg]

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2004-08-21, 11:05 AM #16
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Darth J:
The Hayden and Naboo in RotJ has been confirmed. There was a leak in the audio commentary for the film where Lucas and Ben Burt are talking about the reason for the addition. They said your spirit becomes one with the force when you die, as was the case with Obi-wan and Yoda. Anakin dies at the end of Episode III when Darth Vader is born, but his soul is trapped until Vader is destroyed.</font>


That's ricockulous. Essentially, it means that Luke's redemption of his father was meaningless.

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2004-08-21, 11:10 AM #17
No, it just means that Luke set his father's spirit free.

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2004-08-21, 11:32 AM #18
Yeah, but it makes for a better story, in my opinion, that Anakin had buried away the good in him, and that only his love for his son in the face of certain death could bring that back to surface.

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2004-08-21, 11:36 AM #19
It's still the same idea. Anakin's dark side trapped his light side, and only in the face of his son's death could the good anakin overcome the evil.

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2004-08-21, 12:46 PM #20
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by G-Man:
And in the SE from Episode 5 you will see an AT-ST!!!!!!!</font>


The AT-ST was there all along...

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2004-08-21, 1:05 PM #21
The glow does not even line up with the damned core!

Click for shockingly bad editing!

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2004-08-21, 1:17 PM #22
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Acharjay:
The glow does not even line up with the damned core!

Click for shockingly bad editing!

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That **IS** bad. I did some lightsaber rotoscoping of my own in photoshop once and I did a better job than that my first time.

The new sabers look awful-- it looks like the contrast has simply been cut by 50%.

and what the the hell is that blue-white smudged thing on the wall light behind obi-wan-- it looks like there was some saber glow there that they didn't remove.


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2004-08-21, 1:29 PM #23
It'd be funny if this whole thing was a hoax made in photoshop.
2004-08-21, 1:40 PM #24
Some of them can be explained as hoaxes, but some cannot (ie. Hayden in RotJ, the Emperor change in ESB, Boba Fett's voice change in ESB). I suppose the Jabba one could be faked, but it'd take a LOT of time.

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2004-08-21, 1:54 PM #25
The Jabba one looks like utter crap. :[

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2004-08-21, 2:24 PM #26
Dammit, don't you guys read? the crappy sabers are due to bad brightness/contrast in the source video of the 2004 edition. hence why he edits the image afterwards.

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2004-08-21, 2:27 PM #27
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Thrawn42689:
The Jabba one looks like utter crap. :[

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yeah, it looks like he got a little bit charred on the grill. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]



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2004-08-21, 4:09 PM #28
Take my word for it, I can guarantee 10000000000% that the Naboo Celebration and Hayden are confirmed. Dont' ask how, but just believe me [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-08-21, 6:56 PM #29
WHY IN THE WORLD DID THEY CHANGE THE DIANOGA

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2004-08-21, 7:21 PM #30
Because it looks more lifelike with the eye blinking and not so much like a puppet.

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2004-08-21, 7:26 PM #31
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WHY IN THE WORLD DID THEY CHANGE THE DIANOGA

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I like the new diagnoga. It looks better and less rubbery.



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2004-08-21, 11:04 PM #32
Personally, assuming it is all true, I like the new changes. Sure, some of the saber glows are off a bit but I'm sure it'll look better when in motion than as still shots. The new Jabba looks a little better than the old one because it looks a tad closer to the RotJ one except the eye color is off and he has a little too many dark spots. Other than that, it's looking much better than the SE version.

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2004-08-22, 3:10 AM #33
http://perso.club-internet.fr/willow/SW_Changes/ROTJ_Changes_09.htm

What slug is he talking about here?

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2004-08-22, 5:48 AM #34
Due to a lighting mishap they covered up part of the Emperor's hood with a black splotch, which ended up being called "slugs".

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2004-08-22, 3:45 PM #35
I the only change I don't really like is the A New Hope Jabba.
2004-08-22, 6:43 PM #36
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MadQuack:
http://perso.club-internet.fr/willow/SW_Changes/ROTJ_Changes_09.htm</font>


The best lightsabers out of all of those are the originals. Why did they even bother changing them?

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2004-08-23, 5:31 AM #37
Because this entire thing is ridiculous. The special edition I didn't mind at all, but this much editing to a film is just insane.

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2004-08-23, 5:47 AM #38
Actually I'm cool with all of it. None of it really bothers me.

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2004-08-23, 6:08 AM #39
I decided to check this thread again, and thus I found the funniest face in Star Wars
[http://perso.club-internet.fr/willow/SW_Changes/ROTJ_Changes_08_SE_02.jpg]

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2004-08-23, 6:35 AM #40
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Flexor:
http://perso.club-internet.fr/willow/SW_Changes/SW_Changes_15.htm

WHY?

Lightsabers are the best thing about star wars.. and now they're making them all look like a newbie's 2-minute photoshop job!

Ugh.

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This way JK becomes the yardstick, and they can all look a little more like *that*.

besides the lightsabers, I think the picture quality increase is really nice.
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