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The decline of combat space sims!
2009-05-05, 11:26 AM #1
Anyone care to share their thoughts on why this genre dropped so much in popularity?

We had Elite, Privateer, Privateer 2 (with awesome FMV cutscenes), Freelancer. There had been a couple a games released in the last 2 years, but nothing nearly as popular.

It's a fantastic genre with a lot of potential for immersion. Not to mention the stuff you can do with modern tech to make the games awesome...

What do you think?
幻術
2009-05-05, 11:29 AM #2
I'm looking forward to this game:

http://www.infinity-universe.com/Infinity/

There's a playable MP demo already available. It's space only, though.
2009-05-05, 11:37 AM #3
Oo, looks cool. I couldn't find the developer company's name on the site tho. Do you know anything about their previous projects that I can possibly check out? Thanks!
幻術
2009-05-05, 11:38 AM #4
More like The End of combat space sims
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2009-05-05, 11:38 AM #5
It's one guy. There are a few community contributions but for the most part, it's all one guy. What's cool is that he usually releases the code of the new stuff he comes up with.

[Edit]
Okay, I guess there's 8 on the team now offically:

How many developers are working on the game ?

At the moment the core team is formed of 8 members plus I (Flavien Brebion) as the project leader/programmer. Infinity also works on a community contributions model where anybody with 3D modeling, texturing or musical skills can help out. We have received more than a hundred contributions so far. For more informations, please see our contributions forum.
2009-05-05, 11:59 AM #6
I bought X3 the other day when it was on sale for like 9.99, the game looked beautiful in the screenshots, and reminded me a lot of Freelancer. Too bad it plays absolutely nothing like Freelancer and seems incredibly difficult to learn how to play. I gave up on it after about an hour of messing with the mind-boggling menu and controls.

I too have been in the market for a good space sim, but what I've really wanted is just a new star wars space sim, because all of them were so much fun.
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2009-05-05, 12:09 PM #7
Yeah, X3 is ridiculously complex. It seems like a pretty cool game but then you realize how much stuff you're going to have to do before you can be spacebeard the pirate.

I think Freespace 2 Open is the best X-Wing/Wing Commander-style game out there. It's also a really good example of online forum people making a mod, which is kind of nice to see. The level of quality is really impressive.
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2009-05-05, 12:31 PM #8
I'm sure many will disagree, but I think the space aspect of SWG is pretty good. It's not as good as the X-Wing series, but being able to walk around your ship makes up for that.
2009-05-05, 12:59 PM #9
Haven't played anything as good as freelancer.. and freelancer had absolutely no replayability, so that kinda sucks.

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2009-05-05, 1:07 PM #10
Freelancer was meh. I liked certain aspects, like "Newtonian" flight mode...

Freespace2 was great, still need to finish that off sometime.

I want TIE 2; up until their implosion the Emperor's Hammer was working on a game from the Freespace engine, no idea what state it's in right now.

In the GE we talked about doing one ourselves, and I have a copy of the very, very rough cut of the flight system, but we dropped that a few years ago since we don't have the time for it.
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2009-05-05, 2:01 PM #11
Quote:
I too have been in the market for a good space sim, but what I've really wanted is just a new star wars space sim, because all of them were so much fun.


This.


I want to dogfight in a sith infiltraitor so bad.
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2009-05-05, 7:50 PM #12
Because even though the idea has always had great potential the actual games have always been really really boring.
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2009-05-05, 8:27 PM #13
Quote:
Because even though the idea has always had great potential the actual games have always been really really boring.


You must not have played tie fighter or x-wing alliance then.
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2009-05-05, 9:44 PM #14
We were talking about recent-ish games Onimusha, not ancient ones, keep up.
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2009-05-05, 9:46 PM #15
Originally posted by Onimusha:
You must not have played tie fighter or x-wing alliance then.

Or any games listed in this thread.
2009-05-05, 10:35 PM #16
lets build one on XNA
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2009-05-05, 11:01 PM #17
Originally posted by zanardi:
lets build one on XNA


haha good one!
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2009-05-06, 3:51 AM #18
Originally posted by Tiberium_Empire:
Or any games listed in this thread.


No, I've played the ones listed in this thread.
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2009-05-06, 3:56 AM #19
Bugger space combat! What about point and click adventures?

(currently cradling Broken Sword on his DS...)
2009-05-06, 4:08 AM #20
Totally!
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2009-05-06, 4:33 AM #21
yeah i noticed. I used to play WIng Commander Prophecy and Freespace but i dont even have a joystick anymore.
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2009-05-06, 8:03 AM #22
Originally posted by Alco:
I'm looking forward to this game:

http://www.infinity-universe.com/Infinity/

There's a playable MP demo already available. It's space only, though.

That actually looks pretty darn funky.
nope.
2009-05-06, 10:14 AM #23
You can play FS2 with a keyboard and mouse now.
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2009-05-06, 10:21 AM #24
The original freespace was the best flight sim ever, possibly beating out TIE Fighter.
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2009-05-06, 10:23 AM #25
Did you know that the Freespace campaign has been ported to FS2?
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2009-05-08, 1:02 AM #26
Freelancer wins due to it's easy modability. [url]www.bsg-galactica.com[/url] And that there's a Battlestar Galactica mod for freelancer :D
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2009-05-08, 6:45 PM #27
Oh how I miss my old X-wing days...

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