I'm sure some of you Britassians will have been receiving BNP campaign flyers through your doors recently, and I found this one particularly hilarious.

I quite like "Oppose the dangerous drive to give 80 million Muslim Turks the right to swamp Britain!", considering that Turkey only has a population of 71 million. Apparently, we're going to invite the entire population of Turkey and then some (all Muslim, for some reason) to swamp Britain. Heh.

Also, I discovered after a bit of googling that the people pictured in the 'Why we’re all voting BNP!' section don't actually exist. They're actually stock images, and you can find the Doctor, the pensioners, Scots Guard (who was actually very angry at his image being used!), and the mother. I've been told that the BNP actually didn't even pay for some of those stock images and the website that provides them are seeking legal action, but I can't corroborate that.

Oh also, the fighter plane that the BNP uses to represent the battle against eastern european immigration?

It's a Polish Spitfire.

I've not actually gotten any of their toilet paper through my door amazingly.

Bunch of Lib Dems leaflets though. At least its not the SNP.

That is some good ol' fashioned awesome propaganda!

Man, propganda sure sucks since the wall fell.
My generation hasn't been able to experience good propaganda yet, it's sad.

The fact that you think you haven't experienced any good propaganda is just evidence of how much better the propaganda is now, and how much more of it there is.

The whole, NO MUSLIMS thing is terrible. No wonder there are muslim radicals who want to kill people who aren't muslims, they keep getting mauled by them.

They get mauled by them because a vocal minority of them kills people, its a cycle really.

I can't for the life of me understand why the BNP is treated like it's an actual political party. Say what you will about American politics, but at least we don't take the Constitution Party seriously.

This is not how that works.


I can see how it would be a bad thing if a large number of immigrants were able to influence the government into instituting backward Muslim laws all over the place, but it seems unlikely that that would actually happen.

If too many ultra-conservative Muslims immigrate at once, the vast cultural differences could cause problems with integration into mainstream society, and allow for the existence of a sustained sub-culture, which could be very bad for all parties.

...but I don't live in England so it's hard to say.

Thats pretty much it dude
I'm all for skilled foreign people coming into this country, especially when 10% of brits are chavs who dont work, live on benefits and commit crime.
We should respect their culture, and they must respect ours, and not seek to change our country to become theirs. Shari'a law? Piss off. Go back to the M.E if u want that.

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For ****s sake, this is exactly the sort of crap that UKIP and the BNP are trotting out. Britain is not going to adopt Sharia law, and it's ****ing ridiculous to be scared of Britain 'becoming a Muslim country!!!!!'.

There's about 1.5 million British Muslims (that's 3% of population), and they are all individuals. Some may follow strict classical Islamic law, some may be more or less secular, and some will be somewhere inbetween (or on an entirely different tangent). The far-right may not have had much success in actually convincing people of policy, but they have certainly succeeded in spreading this 'us and them' mentality and polarising the discussion by treating Muslims as one single impenetrable block. A British Muslim is, and always will be, British.

Haha I figured they were stock photos AND that those involved would be less than thrilled when they found out.

Genius.

My Chinese housemate was quite bemused when he read that people like him were voting for the BNP.

Damn you Teaboys are nuts.

In other news that link to the Sun had me in stitches - I followed a link "Perv Gary Glitter Shaves off Beard" to find under a picture of said chap, a photo of a Gillette Razor captioned "Razor...Like one pervert Glitter could have used!"

Wow.

Newsworthy indeed.

Maybe you don't. And why not? I mean, they've got a few crazy out-there views, but so do republicans and so do democrats. ESPECIALLY democrats.

There are crazier republicans.

I think they're pretty even. The democrats just spread it out a lot more.

They're a party for Minuteman wannabes and "constitutionalists" who want to substitute their own terribly lacking understanding of the Constitution for two centuries of constitutional case law. There are some sincere old-style conservatives as well, but when a party nominates an insane nutjob like Chuck Baldwin, it's pretty obvious that the reasonable people aren't running the show.

Thats regular crazy.

The BNP reckon that if you're not white and "british" you should be given a swift kick off Land's End.

...Most likely a swift kick from a bullet.

My Uzbek co-worker got one of these through her door yesterday. They're leafletting in an area where about half the population is of an ethnic minority, and even worse in worker's accomodation for a hospital that (so it seems to me) has an even higher proportion of staff from ethnic minorities.

So even though the BNP don't have a chance in hell in Southwark, other parties are playing on fear of its success. There's a giant poster on my route to work for the Christian Party. Nowhere else in this country would they have a chance but it's running solely on a platform of "We're the Christian choice" and "We're not the BNP"; and it wouldn't surprise me if it garners a significant proportion of the votes seeing as this area is so multi-cultural and religious. The mainstream parties are looking a little wobbly going in to the Euro elections after all the expenses scandals.

i dont think ruthven was saying the UK is becoming a muslim country or lumping all muslims in the shari'a law/fundie group. seemed like he was saying the UK should respect the cultural backgrounds of immigrants and said immigrants should respect the culture of Britain.
and if per chance any immigrants do want the country they are moving to, to enact shari'a law, then they would probably be happiest if they stay in their former country.

seems like trying to make a canyon out of a small divide in opion.

...i could be wrong though.