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Man beats childs molester, molester set free while man faces life.
2009-06-20, 5:55 AM #1
Yeah, the topic is exactly what the article describes. This is happening in Australia btw. And my favorite quote from the article, that shows this judge CLEARLY should not have his job:

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0%2C23739%2C25651579-952%2C00.html
Quote:
From Article:
""When an individual takes the matter of punishment into their own hands, the offence committed by the person may be far, far more serious and, therefore, have far more serious consequences then the original offence.""


Funny. I always thought child molestation was pretty much one of the worst crimes a human could commit. I would guarantee 99.9999999% (the 1 person happens to be this judge) of humans would kill or do some pretty harmful damage to someone that they caught doing something like this to their kid. The guy is lucky that's all he got. Personally I'd like to have seen his dick physically ripped from his body, subsequently shoved down his throat.
2009-06-20, 6:03 AM #2
Bruces are at it again!

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2009-06-20, 7:19 AM #3
wtf
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2009-06-20, 7:52 AM #4
lol australlia

2009-06-20, 8:15 AM #5
When everyone on the continent is a criminal, how do you define justice? :eng101:
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2009-06-20, 8:25 AM #6
I would say that quote seems accurate. The reason we have a defined law enforcement group is because rampant vigilantism is a pretty good way to lose an social structure.
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2009-06-20, 9:18 AM #7
Except beating isn't worse than child molestation. If he shot the guy for peeing on his roses, then yeah, that quote would be accurate.
2009-06-20, 9:21 AM #8
Yeah thats some BS.
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2009-06-20, 10:00 AM #9
Vigilantism is more predetermined. If he found out where he lived and went to his house after the fact to beat him up, that would be vigilantism. Beating up a guy while in the act is not out of line at all. That's not really done out of a sense of brooding revenge, that's just a consequence of being caught in the act of doing something very wrong to a child. If he had died, there might be need for some further investigation, but this is just a case of some idiot judge stroking his massive self-righteous ego.

As for the guy, he an *** who no longer poses any value to society and should be executed.
2009-06-20, 10:19 AM #10
Why did Assault become such a big deal in the last 20 years? When our parents were kids, a good whooping was something you earned, deserved, and learned from.

I certainly think a child molester getting beat is going to be good for him.

That said, people shouldn't try to enact justice. As said, rampant vigilantism isn't exactly good. I wouldn't hold the guy, though.
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2009-06-20, 10:22 AM #11
LOL MEATPIEBOYS
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2009-06-20, 10:56 AM #12
and a good old ghetto beatdown will only earn you a couple hours of community service
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2009-06-20, 11:45 AM #13
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
Vigilantism is more predetermined. If he found out where he lived and went to his house after the fact to beat him up, that would be vigilantism. Beating up a guy while in the act is not out of line at all. That's not really done out of a sense of brooding revenge, that's just a consequence of being caught in the act of doing something very wrong to a child. If he had died, there might be need for some further investigation, but this is just a case of some idiot judge stroking his massive self-righteous ego.

As for the guy, he an *** who no longer poses any value to society and should be executed.


Read the article. The father beat the crap out of the guy right after it happened. It happened in his own him. Granted, vigilantism isn't a good thing, but this hardly qualifies as vigilantism, in my opinion. Kid wakes up to dude feeling his privates, kid tells dad. Dad throws dude out of his house and kicks the crap out of him. If the same situation occurred with a child of my own, I'd be hard pressed not to do the same thing.
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2009-06-20, 12:03 PM #14
And you wouldn't even get arrested for it.
2009-06-20, 12:24 PM #15
Originally posted by TheNewKid:
lol australlia


lol thinking this is cuz it's Australia

Seriously, wtf?
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2009-06-20, 12:42 PM #16
The judge probably has a stash of kiddie porn.
2009-06-20, 12:58 PM #17
Originally posted by Deadman:
lol thinking this is cuz it's Australia

Seriously, wtf?

hey you non americans like to say "lol america"
and theres even a vid called america, the states
so fair ****ing game

2009-06-20, 2:38 PM #18
I'm not surprised.
2009-06-20, 5:01 PM #19
The reasoning here is completely flawed. Apparently the law says there is a minimum sentence for child molestation unless there are some extreme circumstances. The judge uses the assault against this guy as an "extreme circumstance" and thus lets him off with nothing. That doesn't make any sense, the act of the molestation in this instance doesn't have anything to do with extreme circumstances, the guy wasn't mentally ill or hopped up on meth or anything. The fact that something happened to him AFTER he molested someone shouldn't alter his sentence for molestation. This guys sentence shouldn't be reduced because of a crime committed by someone else (the assault being the "crime" in this case).

It's like if someone robs a bank, and then in the car during the escape, he gets hit by a drunk driver and has to spend 6 months in the hospital, but lives through it. The judge won't (er, shouldn't) reduce his sentence just because he got creamed on his escape! WTF.

If the guy who did the beating wasn't acting under the authority of law enforcement (and he wasn't), there should be no connection between this other guys molestation charges and his status as the "victim" of a separate crime. If anything, he should be entitled to medical expenses and maybe payment for pain and suffering or whatever they have there, but it should have absolutely no impact on his sentence for child molestation.
2009-06-20, 5:27 PM #20
Yeah that's utterly ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous really. It's horrific that the judge ruled that way.
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2009-06-20, 5:52 PM #21
Exact same thing happened to some close family friends of ours. Yes, this guy was our friend and was in our house, he had married our female friend who already had kids. She came home early one time and found him with her two little girls tied up on the bed. She beat him to near death with a skillet and was not charged with anything. He was on life support/critical condition for weeks. He's in jail now for 30 something years and is on those registered web sites and everything.

So, yes, "LOL Australia" is dead on.

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2009-06-20, 5:53 PM #22
The article almost makes it sound like this was one case. If so, why? If not, why were both cases heard by the same judge?
2009-06-20, 5:55 PM #23
The 'Honorable' Ian Dearden is on Facebook. Who else wants to harass him?
2009-06-20, 6:11 PM #24
In all seriousness,

Advantages of the ruling:
- I am led to believe that violence and binge drinking are serious social problems in Australia and the justice system is trying to curb the behavior by doling out harsher penalties. In this particular instance, a street fight ended with one man (the child molester) so badly beaten that he had to get major reconstructive surgery.

Disadvantages of the ruling:
- A confessed child molester received no jail time, in lieu of a 9 month long rehabilitation program of some sort.
- By ruling that having your face smashed in is an acceptable substitute for jail time, the judge has officially sanctioned vigilantism.
2009-06-20, 6:39 PM #25
Originally posted by Wolfy:
I would say that quote seems accurate. The reason we have a defined law enforcement group is because rampant vigilantism is a pretty good way to lose an social structure.


This is the ****ing stupidest thing I've ever heard, and I've said plenty of stupid things in my time.
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2009-06-20, 10:49 PM #26
Originally posted by Jon`C:
In all seriousness,

Advantages of the ruling:
- I am led to believe that violence and binge drinking are serious social problems in Australia and the justice system is trying to curb the behavior by doling out harsher penalties. In this particular instance, a street fight ended with one man (the child molester) so badly beaten that he had to get major reconstructive surgery.

Disadvantages of the ruling:
- A confessed child molester received no jail time, in lieu of a 9 month long rehabilitation program of some sort.
- By ruling that having your face smashed in is an acceptable substitute for jail time, the judge has officially sanctioned vigilantism.

Binge drinking is a major problem. Violence as a result of binge drinking is a major problem. Violence itself is about the same as you'd find anywhere else.

The biggest problem is that the Australian legal system seems incredibly keen on having everyone never do anything for themselves, ever. The laws for home invasions are absolutely backwards. If people break into your house they expect to sit there and do nothing. If you try to fight them off or otherwise get rid of them, you'll absolutely be charged with assault and end up with more jail time than the people who burgled your home.

I think the rampant binge drinking is just backlash for the government trying to turn us into sissy *****es. Drink on, rowdy teens. Drink on. :colbert:
2009-06-20, 11:41 PM #27
Poor kid gets molested AND has his father taken out of his life all at once.
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2009-06-20, 11:57 PM #28
I think someone should get fired... or get his child molested in his own house. Maybe that will bring some sense to him. Or maybe not.
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2009-06-21, 12:48 AM #29
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
I think someone should get fired... or get his child molested in his own house. Maybe that will bring some sense to him. Or maybe not.


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2009-06-21, 12:49 AM #30
Originally posted by Dash_rendar:
In people's Australia, judge fires YOU!


:omg:
Nothing to see here, move along.
2009-06-21, 1:03 AM #31
Teaching people lessons using other innocent people is kind of cruel, but the judge himself sure deserves something...
2009-06-21, 4:17 AM #32
Quote:
Why did Assault become such a big deal in the last 20 years? When our parents were kids, a good whooping was something you earned, deserved, and learned from.


Exactly. I hate this stupid "don't hit your kids" crap. Beating your kid is different, but if your child is acting like an ******* they deserve a good whooping and it did nothing but good for me when I was a kid. You can't even get into a fist fight in a schoolyard anymore without being charged with assault, let alone getting away without being shot/stabbed.
2009-06-22, 10:43 AM #33
Apparently it's not the first time Honorable Judge Ian Dearden lets a pedophile walk.

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20778708-3102,00.html
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2009-06-22, 12:06 PM #34
Originally posted by Avenger:
Read the article. The father beat the crap out of the guy right after it happened. It happened in his own him. Granted, vigilantism isn't a good thing, but this hardly qualifies as vigilantism, in my opinion. Kid wakes up to dude feeling his privates, kid tells dad. Dad throws dude out of his house and kicks the crap out of him. If the same situation occurred with a child of my own, I'd be hard pressed not to do the same thing.


That's what I said...
2009-06-22, 12:07 PM #35
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
That's what I said...


That's what he said.
幻術
2009-06-22, 12:47 PM #36
That's what she said.
2009-06-22, 1:06 PM #37
Originally posted by TheNewKid:
hey you non americans like to say "lol america"
and theres even a vid called america, the states
so fair ****ing game


Hey, us non-americans aren't all the same, that's so very american of you to lump us all together :suicide:
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2009-06-22, 6:53 PM #38
wow, this is really sad. i really hope i never have to live in a place where i am not allowed to defend my home or my family.
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2009-06-22, 6:57 PM #39
can't they like, appeal?
2009-06-22, 8:37 PM #40
As said earlier, that kid was sexually molested and then lost his dad all in the same day. And since Australia uses a common law system, there is now a precedent and future cases are more likely to end this way.

I for one am proud to live in a country where if I catch somebody molesting my kid, I can kick his face in and not face criminal charges. Likewise, I'm glad I live in a place where I can shoot and kill any unwanted intruders. What are Australians supposed to do if somebody breaks into their house to rob them/rape their family? Just sit there nicely?
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