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Trasformers: Revenge of the Fallen
2009-06-24, 12:02 PM #1
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A very simple plotline, but thats because all the effort was put into making it an amazingly epic action movie with even better special effects.

I saw it at a midnight show and if Dark Knight was the one movie you HAD to see last summer, this is the movie for this summer.

OK so spoilers next, I hope I did enough filler to cover it, but just in case

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ZOMG DEVESTATOR BALLS
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2009-06-24, 12:30 PM #2
I didn't even know there was a new transformers movie till a day or two ago.
2009-06-24, 12:33 PM #3
I heard it was terrible.
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2009-06-24, 12:36 PM #4
The toys based on it do look cool though:

http://forbiddenplanet.com/toys/action-figures/transformers/?q=revenge%20of%20the%20fallen%20action%20figures&sort=relevance&show=available&size=60
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2009-06-24, 1:03 PM #5
I went to the films premier in L.A. on monday (bragbragbrag) and it was....alright. It was essentially the fist movie with better action scenes and special effects (you can actually SEE what the transformers are doing in this one- it isn't edited like a music video on meth anymore.)

Here is my beef with the movie. It's Transformers with seven extra minutes tacked on....but it feels about an hour longer. It isn't as bad as the reviews are making it. It's entertaining, it's a great popcorn flick, but it's also a movie designed for 12 year old boys. There is NO substance whatsoever to the movie, which makes it hard to re-watch- but did I enjoy it while I watched it? Hell yeah. Would I go see it again or buy the DVD? I doubt it.

Oh, also, the totally racist 'black' transformers that can't read? Are you kidding me? They were like robotic gremlins chock full of racial stereotypes.

(Also, comparing this to the Dark Knight in any way shape or form is a load of devastator scrotum)
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2009-06-24, 1:09 PM #6
GIANT ROBOTS BLOWIN **** UP **** YEAH!!!!!!
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2009-06-24, 1:14 PM #7
I usually switch my brain off for Michael Bay films, but from what I hear about this one I'll probably have to remove my brain before entering the theater.
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2009-06-24, 1:27 PM #8
GIANT ROBOTS BLOWIN **** UP **** YEAH!!!!!!

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2009-06-24, 5:44 PM #9
I'll probably go this weekend and watch another case of a director completely raping my ****ing childhood.
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2009-06-24, 6:44 PM #10
Did you really just compare Transformers 2 to The Dark Knight... really? It's like apples and oranges..

Plus one is awesome and the other is terribad.
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2009-06-24, 9:08 PM #11


The more complex the better :D
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2009-06-24, 9:41 PM #12
This movie delivers exactly what it promises. While I can see how a lot of people wouldn't like it, it really is impossible to be disappointed by it.
2009-06-25, 5:19 AM #13
Its funny, every review I have read about Transformers 2 is pretty poor. Bashing it hard. Yet everyone I talk to that has seen the movie enjoyed it.
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2009-06-25, 5:22 AM #14
If it is anything like the first, I will avoid it like the plague. My friend saw it last night and said it was the worst movie he's ever seen, so now it is just peaking my interest in just how bad it can be (which I hear is pretty terrible)
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2009-06-25, 7:32 AM #15
Heres a very basic rundown of how it goes

Kick *** opening with lots of transformer action.

Lots of emo crap (sigh it was like Indy 4 all over again and I nearly fell asleep during it) Silly bit of politics included.

Terminator Rip Off, then some more kickass stuff with transformers leading to a rip off of the da vinci code and ending with kick *** US Army and Transformer *** kicking.

Was a bit perplexed by how the military was suddenly very good at killing them...
2009-06-25, 8:21 AM #16
heard it was too loud and beyond awful
2009-06-25, 9:16 AM #17
It was better than I expected.

Don't get me wrong, it had it's corny moments, but overall I was pleased. I thought it was better than the first one.
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2009-06-25, 10:27 AM #18
Originally posted by The_Reafis:
Was a bit perplexed by how the military was suddenly very good at killing them...


Not really. In the first movie they used rifles and heavy cannons. In the second they used 120mm smooth bore sabot rounds from M1s at point blank range, and freaking enormous bombs.


When Megatron was broadcasting his message to earth did anyone else notice Obama's image flash on the monitor for a single frame just after he said "you leaders have deceived you?"
2009-06-25, 5:32 PM #19
That was the Fallen not Megatron.

Did anyone else sit in a theatre of stunned silence when they killed Prime?
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2009-06-25, 6:52 PM #20
just got back from seeing it.

overall i thought it was great. my one beef with it was all the stupid little jokes they tried to squeeze in. i mean come on optimus prime dies and the stupid little autobots are making jokes. just seemed a little out of place.

optimus prime definitely kicked some *** though, the action scenes were really good.
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2009-06-25, 7:24 PM #21
I have come up with a metaphor for this movie.

Anyone can film a movie that is just hundreds of explosions. That doesn't make it great. Say you have 100 C4 charges. You blow them up one by one, it gets boring after a while. But say you arrange them just right around a sphere of plutonium. Then you blow them up, and it becomes a fission bomb.

Now, take that fission bomb, and place it at the end of a cylinder of lithium deuteride. Detonate it and you have a thermonuclear weapon.

It is the precision application of explosions that amplifies their awesomeness instead of diminishing them. Michael Bay proves in this film that he is indeed a master of explosions.
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2009-06-26, 1:54 AM #22
I thought the first half of the movie was more or less and excuse to show Transformers transforming and fight all while rapidly going nowhere. The second half had the same action and pace as the first but is also where the majority of the (very thin) plot happened.
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2009-07-04, 3:51 AM #23
I watched it after drinking 4 pints, a jagerbomb and another beer in the cinema, the action was good but the story-boarding flow was still pretty thinly tied together (even for someone intoxicated).

That being said, it might be the only movie you'll see for a very long time with an F4 Phantom II, SR-71 Blackbird, B1B Lancer, F16, YF23, A10 and who knows for the helicopters.
2009-07-04, 4:16 AM #24
eh, it was an ok film.
Not bad, not omg-must-see.
Definitely wasn't worth forking out cinema-money for, but oh well, could've been worse.
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2009-07-04, 6:56 AM #25
I thought it was OK, but I think I liked it more just because I grew up watching Transformers, thus it's embedded in me. The plot was horrid, and there were times when even the film itself got confused 5 robots go down under the ocean, one is killed to reactivate Megatron, that now makes 4, plus the now reactivated Megatron which brings us back to 5. Then, as the robots leave the ocean, we only see one of them leave (Megatron) one ship is destroyed out of all the dozens above, and someone utters the line "6 robots coming up from the water now, sir".


If I had to say I had any problems, the main ones would be:

1. The action was crazy, but I couldn't see what the hell was going on half the time. I'm all for crazy, flashy stuff, it's amazing to see and the SFX were brilliant, but when I can't tell what's going on exactly or am confusing (when I know Transformers lore) robots while they fight (colours blending because they move too fast) there is a problem. The problem with the action to me, is one of two things... Either the action is too fast, or the camera angle was an extreme close up so it didn't matter if it was slowed down or not. Seriously I thought all these people were whining about the action saying they couldn't see anything except when it was in slow motion, and this is the first time I'd have to say I completely agree with the internet. There were only a few shots that were not in slow motion, that I could tell what was happening (fights with the autobots/destructicons). All in all, the action was phenomenal, thrilling, and frustrating at the same time.

2. There was not ONE time that the camera was still. Seriously, if you go back and watch the movie, there were maybe a total of 3 shots in the entire film where the camera doesn't move, or has barely any movement at all. Every other single shot, even ones without the actors moving, had movement even if it was extremely slight. It's like watching a movie with severe A.D.D. Although, this didn't really hinder my opinion of the film, it just bothered me that I was always spinning around the characters.

All in all it was a good action flick, but nothing more.
2009-07-04, 8:47 AM #26
I thought it was ****ing terrible. I was astonished Bay could make a 2.5 hour movie about robots and explosions boring and racist.
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2009-07-04, 8:47 AM #27
Originally posted by KOP_Snake:
Did anyone else sit in a theatre of stunned silence when they killed Prime?


some little kid behind me was sobbing a bit

i kinda expected prime to spend a good chunk of the movie dead or otherwise incapacitated


overall it was worth the $0 i paid to see it (in a theater)


and all the people whining about the racial stereotypes i think the TF2 Heavy said it best

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2009-07-04, 9:40 AM #28
I particularly liked the bit when the military helicopter dropped the corpse (parts?) of Optimus Prime several hundred metres , what kind of director would think that makes a good shot?
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2009-07-04, 11:12 AM #29
Michael Bay.
2009-07-04, 12:46 PM #30
It was not very good. There were a lot of contributing factors, such as Shia LaBeouf's terrible acting (which, not surprisingly, also ruined the latest installment of the Indy franchise), the constant movement of the cameras, those horrid twin robots, the overuse of special effects, and the lack of a decent plot.

It did not help that we were surrounded by obnoxious, belligerent slobs in the theater (no, I do not need to hear color commentary throughout the course of the movie, my eyes and ears work just fine, thank you very much). Now I remember why I like seeing independent films at a Ritz instead of terrible, but popular, films at a UA or Regal.
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2009-07-04, 6:11 PM #31
Thought it was great. Went in expecting explosions and action. Got just that.

Went to see "Up" right after that, so both my action and story cravings were satisfied. :)
2009-07-05, 8:54 AM #32
I saw it because a small chunk of it was filmed at my school (the quad and frat parts). I thought it was better than the first one but really looooong.
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2009-07-05, 10:08 AM #33
I can confidently say it's one of the worst movies I've seen in the last 5 years.
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2009-07-07, 5:51 AM #34
Everyone needs to read this: http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/bonus_robs_transformers_2_faqs.php. It pretty much fully describes everything I hate about this movie in a friendly Q&A format.
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2009-07-07, 6:10 AM #35
It missed out the bit where all the component parts of Devastator were conveniently lying around near the pyramids ready to assemble should the need arise.
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2009-07-07, 6:11 AM #36
It was good, more action, but not as good of story as the first. At least they didn't try to make bumblebee something different, he's cool without a voice.
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2009-07-07, 6:24 AM #37
The action was amazing.

The rest, not so much.

I HATED those 2 twin dumbass autobot twits. They are the worst comic relief characters since Jar Jar Binks and even Lucas had a better excuse to have Jar Jar than Bay can muster for these two.

Oh and the old *** decepticon with the cane... What the ****?

I didn't really like the Fallen and I really disliked how down-played Megatron felt. He was no longer a villain, he was just a crappy henchman to some greater (read lamer) evil. I felt beyond decieved by the title "Revenge of the Fallen". I thought the flick would be about the fallen decepticons from the first flick excerting revenge on the Autobots and the witwicky clan. I thought that had a lot of potential. Instead we're served some souped up greater evil that really doesn't cut it for me.

From what I understand, they intend to do a Transformer 3, but Micheal Bay will not be at the helm. (Thank da maker!)
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2009-07-07, 6:27 PM #38
Originally posted by happydud:
Everyone needs to read this: http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/bonus_robs_transformers_2_faqs.php. It pretty much fully describes everything I hate about this movie in a friendly Q&A format.

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2009-07-07, 6:50 PM #39
Wow, it has a 35 metascore.
That's the lowest I have ever seen.
2009-07-07, 8:11 PM #40
That toplessrobot article rocks. So does the movie :awesomelon:
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