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Some basic questions about weed
2009-09-02, 1:35 PM #41
You typically don't actually eat the leaf/bud. You extract the oil that contains the THC which you can then cook with; best results I've had were making butter then using the butter to cook anything like cakes, brownies, cookies etc.

The high is very intense and can last for a VERY long time. You don't have the health risks of inhaling the smoke either.
2009-09-02, 1:40 PM #42
Originally posted by Tracer:
...why would you ever eat weed?


THC is fat and alcohol soluble. aka BROWNIES or BOOZE that gets you hiiiiiigh....
2009-09-02, 1:58 PM #43
Eating Marijuana (or rather the THC Extract) is the safest way to get high, in terms of how it affects your body. You eliminate the effect of smoking anything period on the lungs. The second safest way is a vaporizer, which rather than burning the Marijuana (which starts to burn roughly around 500-700 degrees Celsius), uses lower temperatures that cause the only the THC (which starts to burn around 180+ Celsius) and leave the "bud" of the Marijuana plant alone, effectively eliminating a huge amount of chemicals when inhaled during smoking. The downside to eating Marijuana versus Smoking is that it is a lot more difficult to gauge when you've reached your limit, and you get way higher. If you smoke Marijuana it takes roughly 5 minutes before the effects are noticeable, and maybe 10 before you know whether you're TOO high or if you can smoke a little bit more, maybe even less depending on the person. When you eat Marijuana the effects can take up to 2 hours before they kick in, and you can't really gauge how much you need to eat. Once you've eaten too much, it's too late. There are a lot of people that eat One magically baked Cookie, wait for the effects to kick in and don't notice anything after an hour and a bit, and eat a second one only to find the first one starting to kick in a little bit after.

Alcohol + Weed... ****S you up. With a capital F. I say this is only something that and experienced smoker should even try. You aren't going to die, but unless you know what to expect it might not be very pleasant.
2009-09-02, 3:37 PM #44
Originally posted by Temperamental:
Alcohol + Weed... ****S you up. With a capital F. I say this is only something that and experienced smoker should even try. You aren't going to die, but unless you know what to expect it might not be very pleasant.


Pussy, my own version of Green Dragon (151 + quarter of chron) is my drink of choice :)
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2009-09-02, 4:39 PM #45
You are what you eat ;)

I've actually never had a green dragon. I've always wanted to make one but never had the patience to let it sit for enough time. I never said I didn't love being high and drunk either, it's a fantastic combo. Just not something someone new should try. :cool:

A green dragon is definitely one of my things to be trying soon though.
2009-09-02, 4:45 PM #46
It's actually not that bad. I much prefer it to a straight up 151 shot. And it definitely works, haha

I let it sit for about 2 months, and it has a definite planty smell. It also has a very planty taste that sticks around for a while, but it definitely takes the explosiveness out of the 151. I recommend it actually with some Arizona Iced Tea afterwards. It's sugary enough to kind of wipe out that lasting plant taste
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2009-09-02, 5:08 PM #47
Originally posted by mscbuck:
Pussy, my own version of Green Dragon (151 + quarter of chron) is my drink of choice :)


Definitely need to try this.

It's late but here:

1. Can weed make you hallucinate?
Pretty much no. Not like how you are thinking, anyway.

2. Can weed worsen mental illness/trigger schizophrenia?
Unsure, but leaning towards yes.

3. When you are under the influence of weed, is it difficult to act like you're sober?
Yes, unless you are experienced. Slightly reddened eyes give it away though.

4. Is weed very addictive?
Mentally, probably, but I wouldn't say "very". Physically, no.

5. Does weed affect your judgement?
A little bit. Not as severely as alcohol.

6. Is quitting the use of weed associated with withdrawal symptoms?
No.

7. If you're feeling anxious or low to begin with, will weed just strengthen those feelings?
Nah, not really. I think it works the same when you just sit down while some problem is on your mind. When the weed makes you very relaxed, and you think about problems in your life, you seem to feel lower.

8. Is there a lot of bad/contaminated weed out there?
I've never gotten contaminated weed. Sure, you get occasional schwag (****ty "compressed" weed, lots of stems, poorly manicured, seedy) but nothing laced with other substances.
2009-09-02, 5:43 PM #48
Originally posted by ragna:
8. Is there a lot of bad/contaminated weed out there?
I've never gotten contaminated weed.


You don't know.

I used to think that you'll know when you smoke bad stuff, but trust me, you don't.

Recent research in the Netherlands has shown that about 50% of the weed in Amsterdam coffeeshops is contaminated with toxic pesticides.

And people used to think that most of the stuff you buy in shops is clean. Truth is, you can't really tell unless you test it in a laboratory.
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2009-09-02, 5:49 PM #49
Originally posted by JediKirby:
Please link or make thread NSFW


Don't see how it is NSFW.
2009-09-02, 5:51 PM #50
How much of said "toxic pesticide?" Most crops have some form of "toxic pesticide," it doesn't mean it's a health issue.

Besides, I think he meant contaminated with other illicit drugs.
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2009-09-02, 5:54 PM #51
<3 Organically grown Marijuana
2009-09-02, 5:57 PM #52
Organic doesn't mean it doesn't have pesticides.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2009-09-02, 6:06 PM #53
You can select ingredients that have zero pesticides in them. If you've ever grown MJ you'd know you can get pure organic soil, no additives or pesticides, even stating such on the bag. Then you just use water and your choice of ferts, which you can also go the chemical route (Miracle Gro and pre-mixed formulas alike), or make up your own entirely organic based one with the individual components.
2009-09-02, 6:08 PM #54
Oh you mean growing it yourself. Well, I just meant that in general organic does not necessarily mean no pesticides.
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2009-09-02, 7:10 PM #55
Originally posted by Emon:
How much of said "toxic pesticide?" Most crops have some form of "toxic pesticide," it doesn't mean it's a health issue.


Agreed.

It's probably a different situation in the States anyway.

The problem here in Holland is that our current Christian Democrat government is cracking down extremely hard on growers.

The results of this is that more and more MJ loving hobbyists (who, for the most part grow responsibly) are quitting. Because of the ever high demand in coffeeshops weed is grown more and more on a large scale by criminal organizations that produce only a small number of popular (commercially attractive) varieties in large quantities. Aside from using pesticides they often thrown in all kinds of contaminants just to heighten the weight of the product.

So as a result of the governmental policy, weed is getting only more scarce, more expensive and worse quality.
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2009-09-02, 8:15 PM #56
Like Emon said, I think he meant like people using small glass shards to make it appear to have more trichomes (which = most of THC in layman's terms), or lacing weed with PCP, Acid, etc. In that case, it's not very likely.

Again, it really comes down to just trusting/knowing who you are getting from. Which is why I ALWAYS either let the seller smoke me up, or I"ll always smoke whatever he sold me right when he gives it to me and basically make him take a shot. And like someone else said above, market forces kind of prevent stuff like that from happening as well. If you are buying it in bulk to sell, you need people to keep buying from you or else you aren't really gonna be a successful drug dealer :)
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2009-09-02, 8:29 PM #57
Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
You don't know.

I used to think that you'll know when you smoke bad stuff, but trust me, you don't.

Recent research in the Netherlands has shown that about 50% of the weed in Amsterdam coffeeshops is contaminated with toxic pesticides.

And people used to think that most of the stuff you buy in shops is clean. Truth is, you can't really tell unless you test it in a laboratory.


Glass beads contamination: somewhat widespread in Europe. Sickens me. One of the minor reasons why I grow my own now.
Contamination with other drugs (MDMA, LSD, etc): Very rare if at all. Why add value to something without increasing cost?
Contamination with pesticides: Rare. Most weed that is sold, at least in the US, is grown indoors hydroponically anyway, where there is little to no chance of pests. In addition, most growers use cheap natural ways i.e. Neem oil to combat pests anyway.

So yeah, you were half-right I guess.
2009-09-02, 9:28 PM #58
Quote:
[Oh you mean growing it yourself. Well, I just meant that in general organic does not necessarily mean no pesticides.


Yeah I probably should have clarified that. I agree with the rest of what you said though, there are a lot of things people add to their mix.
2009-09-03, 4:02 AM #59
Originally posted by ragna:
Glass beads contamination: somewhat widespread in Europe. Sickens me. One of the minor reasons why I grow my own now.


This is the number one urban legend about weed. And it is NOT true.

There are so many ways to make weed appear to have more THC that do not involve this. There's all kinds of sprays and powders around that do this way more effectively.

Trust me, I have friends who have worked in coffeeshops for years, and they've bought tons of weed off the street for retail in coffeeshops, and NEVER have they seen glass beads in weed. People do all kinds of things with it, they use sprays, they use 'supermix' powders, they'll even throw in grinded salt, but glass is total nonsense.

In Holland, there is more or less continual research about the quality of the weed, and NEVER have they found glass in weed. Nevertheless everybody in the streets will keep telling you this even though it is simply not true.

By the way, some types of hasj are sometimes (although very rarely) contaminated with other drugs. Hasj from Nepal, Turkey and Afghanistan, may sometimes contain traces of opium.
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2009-09-03, 8:47 AM #60
Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
This is the number one urban legend about weed. And it is NOT true


Actually grit weed is a real problem in some places. A few years ago there was a major weed bust and dealers scraped their remaining supplies by weighing it down with water and in some cases glass or sand. This **** was seriously bad and would **** up your throat, and this actually made the proper news. Colleges and schools gave out notices warning about this grit weed and encouraging bong use rather than smoking joints (as the grit floats to the bottom).

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4907.html

It's not so much of a problem now, as the weed is flowing freely, but whenever there's a drug bust there's a lot more (and worse) contaminated weed.
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2009-09-03, 8:51 AM #61
Maybe it's just the area you're in. I've got a ton of friends that are legal through the system because of Disabilities and others that smoke regularly from street dealers, none of us have ever had or known anyone that has gotten weed that was laced with anything. Geographic location might play a part but I'm not certain, it would make sense though. In Canada Marijuana is pretty widespread in its use and tolerance.
2009-09-03, 11:11 AM #62
It's not really a big deal in the US, but it seems to be a growing problem in Europe / UK
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2009-09-03, 11:32 AM #63
Originally posted by mscbuck:
It's not really a big deal in the US, but it seems to be a growing problem in Europe / UK


Pun :awesome:
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2009-09-03, 11:33 AM #64
Ive never heard of that before..so yea.
But it really doesn't seem like they'd make much more money off doing that without making it pretty obvious.
2009-09-03, 1:43 PM #65
1. Can weed make you hallucinate?
In large doses, yes. Marijuana is a mild hallucinogen.

2. Can weed worsen mental illness/trigger schizophrenia?
It can trigger depression from the endorphin imbalance, otherwise no.

3. When you are under the influence of weed, is it difficult to act like you're sober?
No

4. Is weed very addictive?
No. It's not chemically addictive, it's psychologically addictive, which is very easy to break.

5. Does weed affect your judgement?
No

6. Is quitting the use of weed associated with withdrawal symptoms?
As far as physical symptoms, absolutely nothing. Mentally, it leaves you feeling down, which depends on the potency, quantity, and frequency of use.

7. If you're feeling anxious or low to begin with, will weed just strengthen those feelings?
It doesn't change feelings of stress, it may compound them only if weed adds to the stress (parental problems, etc).

8. Is there a lot of bad/contaminated weed out there?
For the most part, no. No one to date has overdosed on weed. If you get laced weed, it's going to be much more expensive and the dealers going to tell you its laced. On the off chance your dealer gives you laced weed without you knowing, he's a ****ing *******. Weed laced with embalming fluid will **** your day up.
2009-09-03, 1:45 PM #66
I've never had had laced weed, but I smoked weed out of a bowl that was used to smoke some other stuff. I was surprised.
2009-09-03, 1:47 PM #67
Weed laced with embalming fluid is a terrible experience
2009-09-03, 2:35 PM #68
Originally posted by Reid:
It can trigger depression from the endorphin imbalance


What are you, some kind of idiot?
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2009-09-03, 7:17 PM #69
I was handed something laced at a concert, and I still have no idea what it was. I don't remember anything from that point on.
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2009-09-03, 9:39 PM #70
Regarding weed+mental disorders:

http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2009/09/02/cannabis-schizophrenia.html

Quote:
They argue that if cannabis use does cause schizophrenia, an increase in cannabis use should be followed by an increase in the incidence of schizophrenia.

According to the study, cannabis use in the United Kingdom between 1972 and 2002 has increased four-fold in the general population, and 18-fold among under-18s.

Based on the literature supporting the link, the authors argue that this should be followed by an increase in schizophrenia incidence of 29 per cent between 1990 and 2010.

But the researchers found no increase in the rates of schizophrenia and psychosis diagnosis during that period. In fact, some of the data suggested the incidence of these conditions had decreased.
2009-09-04, 12:11 AM #71
Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
This is the number one urban legend about weed. And it is NOT true.

There are so many ways to make weed appear to have more THC that do not involve this. There's all kinds of sprays and powders around that do this way more effectively.

Trust me, I have friends who have worked in coffeeshops for years, and they've bought tons of weed off the street for retail in coffeeshops, and NEVER have they seen glass beads in weed. People do all kinds of things with it, they use sprays, they use 'supermix' powders, they'll even throw in grinded salt, but glass is total nonsense.

In Holland, there is more or less continual research about the quality of the weed, and NEVER have they found glass in weed. Nevertheless everybody in the streets will keep telling you this even though it is simply not true.

By the way, some types of hasj are sometimes (although very rarely) contaminated with other drugs. Hasj from Nepal, Turkey and Afghanistan, may sometimes contain traces of opium.


Besides the thing about powders (there were a few reports of green powdery **** from the Netherlands a while back), I have to disagree with you. A simple google search will show that most reports of contaminated weed involve glass beads of some kind. Some info here: http://www.gritweed.co.uk/index.htm. Used to be pretty conspicuous when these jewish dealers started doing it, but they've honed their technique. "Stealth grit" is what they use now - glassy microparticles undetectable without a microscope. You can't believe everything on the internet though, but I'm pretty sure these people aren't trying to be malicious or anti-pot or anything like that.
2009-09-04, 7:09 AM #72
About that grit weed post..

Quote:
'Grit Weed' has become the colloquial name for a general form of contaminated herbal cannabis that has been treated with a variety of unknown sand / grit like substances which appear to have been added to the plant prior to harvest in order to increase the weight of the plant’s yield.


I don't know what the author is speaking about exactly here, but from the impression I got here you can't add glass to a plant prior to harvest to increase its yield. Weight is the exact same thing as Yield. Yield is the total amount of bud you get from the plant after harvest and nothing more. Adding glass shards to the buds is not going to add weight, and if it does it won't be enough to make a difference, especially if these are "microscopic" pieces.

I'm not saying people don't add this kinda **** to their stuff before they sell it, but what the author wrote makes no sense. Especially to someone that's very familiar with the growing process.

If you are going to add stuff to increase your yield you either do Low-Stress Training during the vegetation stage's, or you add certain chemicals or added nutrients to the soil/growing medium/water. Marijuana is supposed to be LEFT alone at all times to do its thing, and only to be moved when completely necessary. You can totally shock the **** out of your plants by simply moving them. ANY time you touch or move your plants buds during the growing phase before harvest, either in vegetation or flowering stage, you can severely damage or affect the yield of your plant negatively, so I don't even know why a grower would even chance ruining their yield in order to increase their yield. A seasoned drug dealer/grower would know this.
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