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Hero.
2004-08-27, 11:57 AM #1
how is it "presented by Quiten Tarintino". O_o

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2004-08-27, 12:07 PM #2
I don't know, but I heard it kicked arse.

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2004-08-27, 12:09 PM #3
he's the one who made them finally release it in the US, IIRC.

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2004-08-27, 12:16 PM #4
You would think he would at least have them not reveal massive spoilers in the previews.
2004-08-27, 1:28 PM #5
Maybe he didn't have control over that? Oh well.

Hopefully it's good. I trust that Quentin Tarantino wouldn't **** us over. He makes good movies at least [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2004-08-27, 1:32 PM #6
Why was it not going to be released?
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2004-08-27, 1:35 PM #7
Hero:
[http://dor.nullmind.org/arc/hero2.jpg]

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2004-08-27, 1:40 PM #8
PG-13 Quiten Tarintino movie? Hmm.

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2004-08-27, 2:05 PM #9
I saw the movie a while back subtitled...which IMO is better then dubbing by a lot. It is really good, but I see no reason to see it in theaters again, especially a dub. (It is dubbed isn't it?)

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2004-08-27, 2:05 PM #10
Pff. Real heroes wield the NeSword.

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2004-08-27, 2:08 PM #11
It is not a "Quentin Tarentino movie" people. He just made it possible for it to be released in the US. So stop thinking that it's him just becuase it's "Presented by Quentin Tarentino"

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2004-08-27, 2:10 PM #12
Presented != Made

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2004-08-27, 2:18 PM #13
Doesn't look too great to me.

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2004-08-27, 2:25 PM #14
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cazor:
he's the one who made them finally release it in the US, IIRC.

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Pretty much

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2004-08-27, 2:47 PM #15
"Presented by Quentin Tarantino" means that it is being presented by Quention Tarantino. I think it is very clear. It doesn't imply that he was at all involved in production, simply that he is presenting it to the audience.
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2004-08-27, 2:51 PM #16
I just seen it in theaters today and I thought it was excellent. The movie was subbed in the theater that I saw it in. The fight scenes have a sense of beauty and gracefulness to it. It definitely has the best sword plays of all the movies I seen this year (then again I haven't seen Kill Bill 2). I enjoyed the grandiose music as well. The music is similar to "Crouching Tigger Hidden Dragon"'s use of drums during fight scenes. However, "Hero" also employs the use of a male choir to make the music more eclectic. The story was also refreshing, even though it doesn't match up to "Crouching Tigger Hidden Dragon". It has some nice plot twists....although the stupid trailers I seen on TV spoiled one of them for me. Although, by the way the story developes, it seems like they're trying to incorporate as many fight scenes as possible.
By the way, are you guys getting the DVD from some import store? Because I can't find any DVDs of "Hero" from where I live.

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2004-08-27, 3:02 PM #17
Haha, it's subbed?! So why did they even bring it to theaters? Blockbuster used to have a copy of Hero, but it suddenly 'dissapeared'. Oh well. Yeah if I recall the movie originally came out in 2002 or 2000.

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Go buy it if you want >.<

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Think while it's still legal.
2004-08-27, 3:43 PM #18
Tarantino gave the movie his name so more theaters in the U.S. would pick it up. It was already played in a handful of threaters in the U.S. about two years ago.

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2004-08-27, 8:23 PM #19
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Haha, it's subbed?! So why did they even bring it to theaters?
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"Passion of the Christ" was subbed.

Also, with Quentin Tarantino's stamp of approval it's bound to go farther than without it. Besides, what's wrong with a subbed movie?

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2004-08-27, 9:05 PM #20
I just got back from it, and I thought it was great. The fights were good and the story wasn't as straight foreward as I thought it was going to be. It was subtitled, I don't think it is going to be dubbed.

[spoiler, kinda]

I really liked how, depending on who was telling the story, the colors were different.

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2004-08-27, 9:35 PM #21
Saw it a whole year ago when it was released here [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] .

Quite good, even if the moral tone seems to advocate dictatorship as a viable form of gpvernment. It isn't anachronistic in the sense of what the Qin emperor's motivation was. But it is a bit odd when compared to another film, The Emperor and the Assassin, that tells the same legend in a more a more epic and lengthy Shakespearean manner, where the Emperor comes off as more of a tragic savage King Lear or Titus figure, instead of some justified reluctant saviour and uniter of the Chinese people.

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2004-08-27, 10:08 PM #22
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">"Passion of the Christ" was subbed.

Also, with Quentin Tarantino's stamp of approval it's bound to go farther than without it. Besides, what's wrong with a subbed movie?</font>


>.< No silly boy. Subtitled movies > Dubbed movies. But usually a foreign film that was already out in America atleast on DVD, if it goes back to theaters, it's usually because it's been dubbed. I see no point other then milking some money that they brought this back in theaters. Then again that IS the point isn't it [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-08-27, 11:55 PM #23
One of the best movies ever.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Daeron the Nerfherder:
...even if the moral tone seems to advocate dictatorship as a viable form of gpvernment.</font>

Not really. Other than the strong, evident message of the movie, you must remember the historical time. Back then, socially, a human life was one of the cheapest commodities everywhere in the world.

The message of the movie reflects perfectly this proverb: "Don't ask what the country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". Was it not JFK who said that first?

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2004-08-28, 12:59 AM #24
But, can JFK be seen as a (by western standards) totalitarian and harsh ruler [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

The use of vivid colours for different narrators is a really neat gimmick. I remember reading that supposedly the colours represent different things in Buddhism
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imagination for crimson, reality for blue, truth for white, and enlightenment for green.
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The sheer amount of costumed extras in some of the scenes is really impressive too.

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2004-08-28, 3:04 AM #25
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..even if the moral tone seems to advocate dictatorship as a viable form of gpvernment.
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Perhaps because it IS a viable form of government.
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2004-08-28, 4:57 AM #26
I just want to see it for that autumn-looking fight scene in the forrest. It was breathtakingly beautiful.

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2004-08-28, 6:10 AM #27
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mort-Hog:
Perhaps because it IS a viable form of government.</font>


I can't bring myself to justify that with a rebuke, so instead I say:

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2004-08-28, 6:26 AM #28
I might not want a totalitairian government, but it is viable, in that it can be made to work. It was made to for centuries upon centuries.

We may be better off with democracy, but look at Rome. Just because we are so enlightened doesn't mean such a totalitarian government couldn't return.

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2004-08-28, 8:42 AM #29
I think I read somewhere that the Chinese government financed the film? By the way, one of you said that this movie came to theaters once. When was this? I don't remember seeing any advertisements.
2004-08-28, 12:53 PM #30
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cloud:
I think I read somewhere that the Chinese government financed the film? By the way, one of you said that this movie came to theaters once. When was this? I don't remember seeing any advertisements.</font>


Which is exactly why it flopped in the U.S.

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2004-08-28, 4:35 PM #31
I saw it tonight, beautiful movie

How the story kept repeating itself got repetative though, felt like I was watching Groundhog Day :P

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2004-08-28, 5:33 PM #32
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Which is exactly why it flopped in the U.S.

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Because the Chinese financed it, or because it wasn't advertised?
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2004-08-28, 9:20 PM #33
...the lack of advertising which lead to only a handful of theaters to pick it up. Or am I supposed to be a redneck xenophobe and say something along the lines of "The Chinese financing the movie, uh-yuck, no red-blooded American would give money to them thar orientals?"

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2004-08-28, 10:23 PM #34
I saw it tonight, and the best word to describe it is "meh".

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2004-08-29, 7:59 AM #35
It's awesomeness was overshadowed by it's length and drawn-out boring parts.

While it was an awesome and artistic take on Chinese history, it really immersed you in the story, and it was just a really great movie, it had no action. I'm not one to say action makes a movie, but there was NOTHING to make it interesting for 20-30 minutes, until a 5 minute swordfight, then more... not... interesting... stuff... Yeah

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2004-08-29, 8:38 AM #36
Yosh, what are you talking about? That movie had SO many fights, I was starting to get tired of them. It was basically ALL fighting.

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2004-08-29, 11:40 AM #37
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by lassev:
"Don't ask what the country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". Was it not JFK who said that first?

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2004-08-29, 9:00 PM #38
Probably spoilersm but I don't think anyone cares.

Yeah, it had a lot of fights... between the same four people, over and over and over again. After a while, you get tired of their one-legged flying sword stab moves, especially when it's the same people dying, ten different times.

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2004-08-30, 4:41 AM #39
It was fighting, but it wasn't action the way I'm talking about. I'm talking about active advancement of plot. And the fights were less fighting, more...choreography. Beautiful choreography, but choreography none-the-less

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2004-08-30, 1:38 PM #40
I saw it 8 months ago when a classmate of mine let me borrow her DVD. It was all Chinese and I had to figure out how to play the movie while reading Chinese text, and getting the English subtitles to work. Pretty good movie. I might go see it in theatres.

What I find more ironic is that the movie already went to the oscars.

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