i like the british version of a wigger, the "chav". hahahaha

What's weird about chavs is no matter where they're from, they all speak with a faux-manc accent. That and they tend to wear things that should make the 5th of November a night to stay in, lest they go up in flames... <_<

Who would win in a fight? A wig or a chav?

I don't know if the American 'wigger' is directly comparable with a 'chav', I think chavs are more like the stereotype of American trailer park trash - white, uneducated working class. I suppose the Venn diagram describing wiggers and trailer park trash must overlap to a significant degree, though?

The whole "alright" thing is weird too, but I find myself accidentally sayin it. When my flatmate sees me he goes "Mikealrigh", so fast and usually I say "....whut" and then it processes.

I prefer "yo yo, whuddup"

I'm northern *shakes fist*

Chavs would have anyone. You can't really walk around unless it's in the town centre past 9 here without running into groups of them, and then its 50/50 whether you get punched/attacked. Sad really. Touchwood I've not had any trouble yet, but there's me jinxing it.

Another ****ed up thing about england -- Glasgow smiles.

Yeah they definitely do. Usually there's two types of "wiggers". Rich boys who think they're street, have a fetish for buying every single type of Nike shoes they see, brand new jerseys/hats/etc. Then theres the white-trash poor wigger, who is actually somewhat authentic in that he would actually probably shenk you. The rich boy version would just run to their corporate businessman daddy if you stood up to them.

Ok, the stereotypical 'chav' is more like the latter, so white trash vs. chav would be an interesting fight. This would be an epic episode of Deadliest Warrior.

White trash has the obvious advantage of probably owning guns, but chavs have the zerg rush and always fight in large groups and could possibly get in close with knives and bottles.

Then there is what's also known as 'scatty chavs', slightly older guys that have usually done jailtime and serve as like a spiritual leader to the chavs, generally a professor of thugonomics providing courses and mentoring on all aspects of petty crime and street-corner cider-drinking.

Also, in the north 'chavs' are often called 'neds' (apparently short for 'Non-Educated Delinquent', but that's probably a backronym), but they're essentially in the same thing. Though in Scotland chavs/neds are segregated into Catholics and Protestants.

Haha, I love discussing the intricacies and differences of the decay of western society.. let's write a book!

I don't know enough about England to try, other than the one friend I have from there. All I know, is I like the way your country does education, over the way it is done here. That's about all I can offer.

Our education system is dreadful, you are forced to commit far too early on. Once you pick your GCSE subjects you're pretty much stuck with them for 2 years, regardless of how you find them, in many cases this will be the first time you've even done the subject (ie business studies, economics etc). Then you have to pick your A-Levels, again you're stuck with your decision for two years (this has improved lately with AS-Levels, but you're still committing for a year), at which point you're probably picking subjects you know you can do well at, rather than trying to expand your horizons. Then you pick your degree course, you can only change your 'major' at the start of each educational year and this normally involves starting your degree over (ie any credit you gained during the first year doesn't count towards your degree if you switch to a different subject).

I did a Computer Science degree (primarily because I knew I could do well at it), and there was never the opportunity to take a completely unrelated course for a single semester just to try something different, all the optional courses were still related to Computer Science in some way.

It's a truly terrible system, and whilst I know the American system has its problems, it almost certainly gives you the ability to gain a more well-rounded education if that's what you're after.

As someone else who has been through the system, I totally agree.

+1.

The French Bac system is much better for a well rounded education, though the problem with that is you're forced to do more than you'd probably want, and you might feel a bit "jack of all trades"-ey.

North of the border they have Faux-Weegie accents.

Wait until you visit Scotland.


You mean Chelsea Smiles - Glasgow isn't even in England.

What? Scottish people love being called English. It's one of their favourite things!

Hey now, it just bugs me when people don't understand the difference between the 4 nations - Otherwise I'm not usually one of your stereotypical nationalist arseholes.

I think he's mixing it up with that peculiar type of kiss they have in Glasgow

Also chiming in with the crappy lack of choice in our education system. I felt from fairly early on that I was on the wrong degree course, but any efforts to change were thwarted and I was too naive/stupid to drop out in 1st year. Ended up blundering through the rest of it with less than stellar grades and am now working a nothing job. I don't see much of a way out in terms of changing my qualifications or getting new ones and I can't see a new job opportunity coming any time soon in the current job market. I'm sure it'll liven up eventually but for the moment I feel rather aimless/futureless.

One of my brothers (British) says "Brilliant" a lot.

Haha. I do too.

Wikipedia says its called a glasgow smile so

Either way its just a ****ed up thing to do to someone, britain or scotland.

Chelsea Smile makes you look like Heath Ledger's Joker. Glasgow Kiss is an unexpected head butt.

That's all there is to it.

When I was in Sheffield last week I heard "wanker" more times in a 6 hour period than probably the word "the"

You should come to my office.

Scotland is in Britain. ;_;

The German system is a lot more stringent. You pretty much have to decide what sort of career you want to do for the rest of your life before you enter high school. It's also based on merit. A person might have to work their entire life as an auto glass repairman because he failed to get into a better secondary school as a 10 year old.

One of the most appealing things about America was (before Americans became the laughing stock of the international community) our freedom. It's conceivably possible to train and work as a fireman for 30 years before going back to school and becoming a heart surgeon. It's not very likely to happen, but there is nothing stopping someone from trying.

What about the Liverpool Kiss?

Also

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006041701665

Could you be more wrong?

You misspell everything, you've allowed the nanny state to be way too involved in your business, and your ridiculous political correctness is offensive on its own and has openly welcomed fundamentalist Muslim immigrants who support the destruction of your country.

The first point is just a joke, and obviously the only one that would work in a play or whatever you're doing.

Oh, and when you pay for coffee at a restaurant you pay full price for a Dixie Cup sized serving. And your teeth

Lulz. I've only heard of that as the Glasglow Kiss though, to be fair.

See if you can still say this in a decade or two.

I think there's a whole lot of stuff wrong with the American education system, but I agree with you that this is one of the things we do right that many other places don't.

Money. America is the land of the free, but only for the wealthy. The class conflict in the US today is very similar to the UK in the 1950s.

I don't really know what classifies as "not wealthy" to you, but in regards to education, it seems like these days just about anyone can get an education one way or another, worst case scenario you work your way through a trade school after studying for the GED on your own. I guess I'm just not sure what you're referring to.

If you are talking about the fireman example, a lot of people use student loans and work their way through medical school, from what I understand.

It's pretty easy to get grants, especially when you're over the age of 25 or so. Schools are more and more welcoming to "non-traditional students" these days and a student who would have had no chance to enter their top choice when fresh out of high school or undergrad would have a much better chance with some work experience. It looks good for the school.

The real classism comes in after schooling when paying back loans. It's not a big deal for doctors or lawyers who make a large amount of money from the start, but the teachers and social workers are going to be spending a large amount of their income on repaying loans for years after graduating.

Among underprivileged youngsters, their lack of opportunities is more from a lack of desire for education. This is due mainly to two factors. The first is the poor influence from parents, especially recent immigrants whom are extremely reluctant to deal with the "system." If their parents are not concerned about education, the children certainly won't be. The other factor are the terrible schools in underprivileged areas, worsened by the legacy of Bush's education policies most importantly No Child Left Behind.

I just really don't like Lewis Hamilton

Good man.

My parents live in Welwyn Garden City, which is sort of near Stevenage where Lewis Hamilton is from, and our local newspaper has an entire page dedicated to whatever Lewis Hamilton is doing - even though he's not local! I hate that page.

Apparently his dads a complete arsehole; I know a bloke that does something to do with Karting down in England, and seemingly when Hamilton was growing up his dad would pull the race card if he did anything unruly or unsportmanly.

Parliament was the worst thing to ever happen to England.

Know what annoys me about England? How it's not in the United States of Earth yet. What the ****, England. JOIN US.