Well since it seems that I started a arguement on the thread when I asked if I should buy a Gamecube. I'm gonna start a thread on what you think the best console is and list the reasons you think its the best console. I really cant choose if I think my PS2 or Cube is better because I just got my cube and only have 1 game. But so far I like the cube for a few reasons. it has a LOT of multiplayer games is one reason, another is that it has 4 controller ports you dont have to buy a multi-tap. A reason I like my PS2 is because it has more Online games. Post what your favorite console is and argue why you think its better. But dont start flame wars please.

cube
reason 1. Metroid Prime
reason 2. Metroid Prime 2 coming out in november

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Even though I play mostly PC games now, I'll always have a soft spot for consoles. Mainly because they're what got me into video games. Playing games like Mario Bros., Kirby, and Legend of Zelda with my friends are some of my fondest childhood memories.

And on the whole "console war" issue, I think it's more a person's taste in games than anything.

Nintendo-Mostly first-party games based on succesful franchises, alot of adventure games, platformers, and quasi-RPGs like Harvest Moon, Animal Crossing. The total game library is quite a bit smaller, but the good game to bad game ratio is alot better.

Playstation-All third-party games, so obviously there's going to be a wider variety of genres. Pretty popular console for more traditional RPGs, racing games, and fighting games. Sports games are also prevalent. However, there tends to be alot more PS games that are just complete crap, so you really have to be careful when buying.

XBOX-Although I rag on Microsoft quite a bit, it's really a pretty decent console. It's alot better now than the first year after it was released. If you're an avid PC gamer with a decent rig, there's not much reason to buy one, since quite a few of the major titles are PC ports. The XBOX also led the way in internet MP on consoles. I haven't used Live all that much, since I don't own one, but what little I've seen has looked pretty good.

So in the end, it really depends on what you consider to be important in games. By the way, I'm an avid Nintendo fan, if you couldn't tell.

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-Wolfy

I pretty much agree with what you said. Personally I equally enjoy playing games on a console and a PC. Some games are just more suited for PCs, and some games are more suited for consoles.

I don't have the faintest clue why people buy X-boxes, then actually pay to play them online. It just doesn't make sense to me. I soo NO benifits. This isn't me being ignorant, I just don't see why you'd pay for online gaming.

You want online gaming and a hard drive? GET A COMPUTER. Honestly, consoles are fun for a party, or to entertain guests that demand entertainment (Like kids). Otherwise, you play the computer. Simple concept. SP and Party games: Console. Multiplayer and expandable/moddable games: Computer.

The two being mixed makes for all too expensive consoles that aren't at all worth their price. Especially when I can pay the price for all 3 consoles, and get a top of the line PC. Honestly, compair the enjoyment of 3 consoles to a TOP OF THE LINE PC. Especially when console games are usually gimicky.

I am not biased against consoles, at all. I just wish they'd stick to cheap consoles, rather than expensive, over rated hard drives without any of the components that make a hard drive worth spending money for.

JediKirby

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jEDIkIRBY - Putting the Romance back into Necromancer.
Proud Leader of the Minnessassian Council

Live on, Adam.

There's only two things I've ever considered when I've wanted to buy a console.

The games that are out on each system that I'll play and which system has more of said games.

And how comfortable that system is for me to use. Namely controller wise.

The hell with what everyone else thinks. If it has what I want, I'm going to buy it.

As of this moment, if I had to purchase one, it'd be XBox. It has the games I'll play, and I like the controller.

I suggest you take those two factors into consideration.

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You told them all I was crazy,
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The only thing X-Box exists for for me and my friends is for Halo parties.

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it's all about being able to sit side by side with my friends and play co-op on the same screen (namely timesplitters 2 on PS2, but goes for others too)

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Intellivision .. because it rocks

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LONG LIVE DREAMCAST!!!

Indeed. It's a completely different experience than playing someone online. You can take it a step further and make your games drinkng games. Fun time

Personally, I don't have any dislike for any of the consoles. All of them have their pros and cons. I have a PS2 plugged into my TV right now and I think it's great. I'm into sports games, and console jsut play posrts games better than PCs. There are also some great Console-only titles out there that you miss out on if you only have a PC.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

I believe they should have stopped after SNES, but Gamecube has renewed a lost spirit in consoles.

List of MUST-HAVE games for Gamecube:

Metroid Prime 1. Duh.
Super Smash Bros Melee. Single best MP game ever.
Zelda: WW.
Soul Caliber (I know, its on other systems, but still, awesome game.)
Eternal Darkness
Ikaruga
Final Fantasy Chrystal Chronicals
Mario Kart Double Dash


Soon to come:
The Legend of Zelda (OMGOMGOMGOMG)
Metroid Prime 2 (OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG)
Paper Mario (OMGOMGOMGOMG)
Final Fantasy (when Square finally switches over... for good.)
Chrono Trigger 2 (Okay, maybe not, but a man can dream!!!!)

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Dude have ANY of you played Pac-man on the Gamecube. The one where you have to have a gameboy advanced and 3 people are the ghost and 1 person is Pac-man? It is AWESOME!

I seriously doubt that happening.

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Proud Leader of the Minnessassian Council

Live on, Adam.

I don't. Crystal Chronicles and Tactics are just the beggining. Square and Nintendo used to be tight, then they messed it up, but I think they are becoming family again ^_^

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If the Religious Discussions forum was still up, then this thread would be moved to it.

[This message has been edited by Chuckles (edited August 30, 2004).]

I love my Xbox. With a violent passion I does I does.

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Carefui with that axe, Eugene

Pretty much why I like my PS2. I have a multitap and 2 controllers, my friend has another 2 controllers, and the local video store has a good range of PS2 games for hire.

That said, GameCube + 4 controllers is worth the price of admission for Mario Kart: Double Dash. That game is so much fun.

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There is no spoon.

Alright here is my summary.. I own a Xbox and Ps2.. My dad owns the gamecube.. So here is my take..

PS2 - Fairly cheapest for any online play. It does have fairly good quality for gameplay value and graphic value. Alot of realism to it! So If you want to play need for speed underground or socom 2 or sphyon filter the omega strain or resident evil online or sghot recon jungle storm or splinter cell pandora tomorrow.. Its free to play with online.. As opposed to the stinking final fantasy.. Which sucks.. But yeah PS2 is still the best gaming franchise in my books!

Xbox - Hmmm.. Has its own personal HD, Networking capabilities.. 4 controller ports.. Just about adds alittle more then ps2 hardware, which can cost you a arm and a leg.. But if you like to play online, even thou you purchase more for the PS2.. its still free, while as xbox live is expensive ontop a internet bill for paying for your dsl or cabel modem.. Then you have to subscribe to some MMORPG for the xbox.. So that sucks.. Big time! I will get live when I got the money too.. However xbox is the best in graphics and quality.

Gamecube - Nifty little toy, very compact cds. Good memories and friggen great grahpics! I mean it! They will be coming out with a new zelda. This one is more serious looking and the graphics.. *Drools*.. I mean.. They just keep coming out with better games, they get fun by the secound or better then any other console games.. Tis worth considering if you want to entertain others in a multiplayer experience in most games. The four swords zelda, however you need a gameboy SP to do multiplayer. But still nintendo has the best room for entertainment value!

My conclusion.. PS2 is the best experience I have come across so far.. Fairly cheap and cant go wrong on any game! Xbox, powerful in suprior graphics and the capabilities to enhance some gameplay values in making the framerate/cd clocking flawless "Some games tend to lag a bit.. Or slow down in framerate, it may be powerful.. But sometimes too powerfull!". Lastly.. Like I said, xbox has the perfect entertainment value out there to date.. If your looking for a fun game, and you want to make your girlfriend happy.. Cube is the one! Xbox more so is building upo a all sports collecting.. So either way.. I would go ps2.. But its your choice as it is your money!

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Buy a Game Boy.

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The Massassi JO/JA Single Player contest info (I don't know why I have this still in my sig)

xbox live is not that expensive... $6 a month or $50 for a year

live kits are $70 for headset, one game (mechassault or crimson skies), and one year of xbox live service

or $35-$40 for headset, demo disk, 3 months of xbox live

now separately...
headset $30
Crimson Skies $30 (last time i checked)
Mech Assault $20
1 year of Xbox Live $50
3 months $18

so the total separate price for the stuff in the $70 kit is $100-$110 which makes it an overall better deal than the 3 month kit

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LONG LIVE DREAMCAST!!!

I'm going to partially repeat myself.

I think you're a fool if you go out and buy something like a console based upon the number of "good games" released under it, or it's graphics, or it's ability to play games online. That stuff is almost completely irrevelant in the long run.

What you SHOULD look at, like I said, is the games YOU WANT to play. The games that INTEREST YOU. The console that has the most of those games is probably the one you'll end up wanting. The thing I would consider after that is the controller. If you're going to be playing games you like, chances are you're going to be there for awhile. So the controller should be confortable for extended periods. If it isn't you should look for a third party controller that could be more comfortable.

To me, that's what you need to look at if you're going to consider purchasing a console. If you buy it based on something else, after a few months, you may find yourself longing for another one just because there are games there that aren't on the one you have.

It's a clear choice for me what I'm going to invest in within the next few months. I'm getting an Xbox. The controller is the best I've used. The PS2 controller doesn't fit my hands well at all. The Gamecube controller felt flimsy and everything was crammed together. The Xbox controller though is a different story. It FEELS solid. Everything is spaced out pretty well for me. Nothing is a strain to reach over and over again, and I don't feel like I'll end up hitting the wrong buttons accidentially. It has the games I want. What games it doesn't have that I'd like, I can live without. Literally, the Xbox has about 95% of the games I'd like to play. That's what I've looked at when trying to decide what to buy. Not the size of the box, or the graphics, or what other people have said about it, or the amount of "good games". I've looked at what *I* want out of it. That's more important than anything else. These things cost over a hundred bucks. I don't want to be dishing out another hundred 3 months later because I got a console that has zero games I like even though someone said it had loads.

That's my more elaborated opinion.

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You told them all I was crazy,
They cut off my legs now I'm an amputee, God damn you.
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I saw a deal at gamestop.com that you can get a game cude that comes with Metroid Prime and a demo of the sequel for just $99.99 USD

http://www.gamestop.com/gs/bundle/gc_1.asp

-- SavageX


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that is the greatest thing i have heard all day.

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I have both a PS and a PS2 because I enjoy mostly Final Fantasy with a few racing games thrown in.

However, a PC is far superior to a console in FPSes because of the amount of flexibility a mouse can offer.

Never tried the gamecube yet 'cause there aren't many games that appeal to me, and the X-Box is the same.

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You'll see it's all a show, keep 'em laughing as you go. Just remember that the last laugh is on you.

Gamecube

Mario Kart Double Dash
Metroid
Zelda
Pikmin
Many Many Others.


buy three.


/me plays Mario 3 for the SNES

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Drugs & Stupidity, Tons of it.

The same for me. Nothing beats a good game of CTF with 8+ players and no lag.

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Nothing beats the PC port of halo with a good PC. Really I get no lag at all...I'm sick of people who join servers with all vehicles, rocket launchers, and a 400+ ping and then judge the Halo port based on that. I can play on a full server (32/32) and have no lag, it all depends on the server you pick.

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I prefer the PS2.

Games I like, it can play DVD's. There.

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If you're a cheapskate, get ahold of a good old Dreamcast: you can download games for it and write them to CD with no need for a mod-chip or anything, and new games are still being developed for DC in Japan. Ikaruga (recently released for GC was also released for DC for example) and another really awesome shooter called, uhhh, it's like Shikagami no Shiro 2 or something, also just came out for DC.

If you like to play with your friends while sitting in the same room, go with GameCube for gimmicky party games. FF:CC, Zelda 4-sword, and Smash Bros. Melee can keep you busy for a long time.

For online play from a console, I'd suggest an XBox, there's not really much to compete with XBox Live, and for all of the anti-XBox inside me, I really can't deny it's superiority.

If you want single player, I'd say PS2, the game library is massive with plenty of time consuming (meaning hours of gameplay, I don't mean tedium in particular) single-player. Prince of Persia was pretty dang amazing, and although I'm a FF6 loyalist, FFX was pretty good. Plus you'll also have multi-player as a backup, both online and in-house.

As for controller (the basic models), I personally rate them GameCube's is best, PS2 is decent but the analog sticks are clumsy, XBox is third (too fat, awkward buttons). This is a little important if you're gonna be spending a lot of time playing. I always wore a sore spot into my left thumb with the jagged edges of the default Sega Genesis controller.

People keep mentioning Metroid Prime for GC, personally, I don't get why. I enjoy FPS games, but I really wasn't into Prime. Then again, I don't like Halo either. FPS games on console are awesome because the analog stick limits turn speed, but I really haven't played a good console FPS since TimeSplitters 2, and it was only as good as GoldenEye or Perfect Dark.

QM

Here's a site to feed on; just beware of the (single, thankfuly) annoying pop-under.

http://consolebattle.8k.com/

Here's a site that compares them, if you can re-interpret the typos that seemingly favor the Xbox heavily (such as implying that it can do 6.4 billion polygons per second...).

Also, as anyone should know, the clock speed is a poor measure of a computer's power. My main rig runs at a paultry 1.8 Ghz, but since it's an Athlon64, it hangs in there with the 3+ Ghz CPUs. A better example (especially for Intel fanboys) is the Intel Pentium M processor... While it has half the clock speed of a standard Mobile Pentium 4, it's effectively just as powerful.

After a few hours' of research, I've found that in performance, the three are very close. The PS2 is obviously the weakest, but not by much. The XBox, once you convert the figures to equate PCs and Consoles, is about 30% more powerful than the PS2, and the Gamecube is about 32% more powerful.

However, I must say that the Gamecube wins performance hands-down, as its games use Trililear filter by default (it blurs the textures on 3 axes instead of the standard 2, making it far harder to determine individual pixels), and the GC also uses anisotropic filtering by default, which definitely improves image clarity. NONE of the systems use full-scene anti-aliasing whatsoever, though. Also, while I believe all three consoles have four tecture pipelines (limiting them to 4 texutres per surface), the Gamecube can acomplish 8 textures per pixel per pass, allowing more detailed areas to not require a cut to 30fps.

That said, the specs are pointless if you don't even want the games for them. BTW, I don't own any of the three; I'm happy with my PC... Multi-playing? That's what LAN parties are for.

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"I know there's got to be some sort of mathematical equation for this sort of thing, but I prefer trial and error. It's one of the advantages of having a socialized health care system."

I don't really give a damn abou the technical specs of the consoles. They can all look damn impressive.

My console of choice goes to GameCube. Ikaruga, Mario Sunshine, Eternal Darkness, Pikmin, etc., are all great games.

Xbox is second, although there are only three games I really like. Ninja Gaiden is my favorite, with online RtCW second, and Halo third. Couldn't get into Pandora Tomorrow or Rainbow Six 3 multiplayer.

PS2...not even really sure why I own one. Very few games for the system interest me in the slightest.

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To think that once I could not see beyond the veil of reality, to see those who dwell behind. I was once a fool.

I own a PS2 for Final Fantasy games.
I own a Xbox for Xbox Live games and Halo.

I own a Gamecube to have fun the rest of the time.

I think it's pretty telling here. I own one controller for the PS2, two controllers for the Xbox and I own 4 controllers for the Gamecube (counting my Wavebird).

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Those are the games that DEFINE Halo Multiplayer. Minus the ping of course. Yet every game I've ever joined like that blows chunks. And I do mean EVERY SINGLE GAME. Why? Because of idiots. I've done my song and dance on why Halo PC Multiplayer sucks before, I don't feel like doing it again. Xbox Halo without a doubt completely owns Halo PC.

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You told them all I was crazy,
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i joined one really great demo server 32 players, people intelligently using vehicles... with that many players you could actually manage to fill up a warthog...

but mostly it's games where people go "NO SHEES *****!!!!!!!!!!111" and everyone tries to go for the banshees ... it's also too common to find CTF games that are being played like deathmatch and everyone ignores the flags...

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LONG LIVE DREAMCAST!!!

OMG KEWL YOU ROCK.

Except nobody said anything about a PC.

GoY--local cominc book store has a Halo party every friday night--4 boxes, usually 12+ people around. In the middle of it (around 10-11) they order pizza. Talk about geek heaven

It usually lasts until 1-ish.

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PlayStation 2 because it is utterly awesome. Awesome controller. Awesome games. Smaller than Xbox.

GameCube has plenty of really good games. You can't watch DVDs or listen to audio CDs because it uses tiny disks, but that may or may not matter to anyone. It's cute and compact; you don't even need to keep it around your TV, just put it away and plug it in only when you need it--it doesn't feel like it'll break if you do that constantly. The controller is good and can be very good for some games, but for some games it is a pain.

Xbox sucks. Xbox has absolutely no redeemable qualities. It is fat and ugly, and presents no technological innovation whatsoever (it is made out of crappy PC parts, exactly like a PC, except compared to modern PCs it is obsolete). The controller is absolutely horrible--it is hideous, big, heavy, and uncomfortable, yet it feels very fragile. I haven't played too many games on the Xbox, but of the ones I have played they were not good at all. For example, I played the Amped snowboarding game (I think it was Amped 2), which according to Microsoft is supposed to be the best and most innovative snowboarding game of all time ever, and it was utter crap. The control of the snowboarder, and the physics were poor. Although the graphics weren't bad, they looked like a four year old PC snowboarding game called Boarder Zone of which I only played a demo on my 350 MHz, 64 MB RAM, 4 MB video memory computer.

1. fragile? the PS2 controller feels fragile... and it is... xbox controllers are the most solid console controllers since the 16bit days and they aren't that big... not even the original version of the controller...

2. play more games... there are some really good titles for the system



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LONG LIVE DREAMCAST!!!

1. I hate the xbox, its so big and chunky with an uncomfy controller. The cube is probably what to get if you want fun party games like the old nintendo consoles, but at times its too cutesy. I reckon the ps2 is the best as it has a wider selection of better games, and when you're bored theres the EYETOY! Best... thing... ever....

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I love controller s, hate the original, though. And X-Box Halo parties are insanely fun.

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