I'm playing Borderlands at the moment with a friend and am loving it!

But I need another game to play single player so what would people suggest in the Action RPG niche?

Gears of war is another one of my favorites because of the game-play but doesn't have the RPG aspect... Also just finished splinter cell and am looking forward to the next due to the strategy involved... can be frustrating sometimes though!

I used to be into fantasy type games like Diablo but haven't found any to be all that great on 360... yet...

I take it you are looking for 360 titles only?

You should just play Torchlight on PC. It'll make you feel better about the world.

Mass Effect

..is $4.99 on Steam today. FYI.

Mass Effect, STALKER (Sort of...)

I recently became addicted to Demon's Souls on PS3. It got Gamespots GOTY award. It's single player with funky multiplayer aspects. Fairly hardcore game. Highly addictive. It has a story, but it's fairly thin. It feels like diablo, but not in the borderlands kind of way, in more of a "This is a dark disgusting world with evil crap that you need to kill and you can die any second and the loot is ridiculously hard to get/figure out how to use" kind of way. And it has all sorts of interesting bosses/locations. One of the games goals is "kill all of the 20ish bosses." (It makes it feel like what Shadow of the Colossus might feel like)

Borderlands was more of a "Team, Kill, loot, rinse repeat" game. It didn't have the fear factor, or the fear of random PVP during gameplay, which Demons souls has.

Welcome to massassi....

Mass Effect is probably the best RPG I've ever played. Dragon Age: Origins is good, too, but not as captivating.

Yeah, if you haven't played Mass Effect, that's pretty much the winner of the thread.

Borderlands is an action fps with rpg elements (and by rpg elements I mean you get level ups and gear with semi-random stats like in diablo)

Mass Effect

mass effect, bioshock, dark messiah

ABSOLUTELY Dark Messiah, loved every moment of it

Bioshock is great if you want to play a watered down, less frightening, more predictable version of System Shock 2 which happens to have neat water effects.

Oh and, Deus Ex is still one of the best FPS games with RPG elements. As long as you don't mind silly running animations and AI that sometimes walks into walls. But the story is fantastic.

Lebedev's Airfield was a MIND****

I understand the hype about Bioshock but was never really in to it myself. I loved a lot of things about it such as its atmosphere/setting, story, and inventory system combined with an FPS. That being said, there was just something that wasn't right about the rest of the game. The shooting and gameplay and enemies just felt like they were off in a sense I can't describe. It just didn't feel right. I'm the type of person who plays a game for hours until they beat it, but I just couldn't get through Bioshock. Maybe it was the juxtaposition between reality and fiction that the developers got wrong, or maybe they couldn't decide which to focus more on, but it's not a game for everyone.

Mass Effect.

For me, Bioshock really immersed me into the game, and it didn't really 'feel like a game' till it got towards the end where you got stuck with a standard "defend the target, repeat repeat" mission.
I agree it's not for everyone though... nor is Mass Effect, I hated that game =p

Actually... pretty much no game is for everyone, I've even found people who didn't like GTA:SA, and most non-gamers like that! (hell even my mother liked it, until she saw my nephew running over people en masse)

Mass Erect

Bioshock has a few major problems:

1. It was watered down for consoles. In System Shock 2 you had a real inventory system. Bioshock simplifies things by replacing that system with two weapon menus and instantly eating, drinking and smoking everything you pick up.

2. The gameplay was shallow and repetitive. There were a few good plasmids, but most of the weapons weren't fulfilling to use.

3. It used the same story as System Shock 2 but not as good.

I liked it but it was not as good as most people say. I think it's unfortunate that most huge Bioshock fans will never play System Shock 2, which is the true masterpiece.

I agree entirely with your other points but not this one, over-simplified inventory systems suck, yes, but so do over-complicated ones. I was fine with Bioshocks inventory system.
Not saying SS2's was over-complicated... because I don't remember, I loved SS2, from what I can remember of it.
I did notice similarities in story line but I didn't know they were practically identical (not that I'm arguing with that)

Simple inventory is okay, but not even having slots for items in the world? I'm slightly annoyed it was sold as, or at least hyped as, an FPS with RPG elements, but really it was not.

SS2's problem was weapon maintenance, which thankfully there are mods to fix. Weapon maintenance wasn't a bad idea per say, but without high maintenance skills your pistols go from brand new to rusted and broke in like 20 rounds.


The story is entirely different, but the mechanism through which it is told is exactly the same. And unfortunately for me, I saw this coming, so I knew that Atlas was Fontaine within the first hour. They even did that same shtick where another character (Xerxes in SS2, Ryan in Bioshock) would question why you are helping Shodan in SS2, Fontaine in Bioshock before you knew their true identities.

It wasn't really a bad design decision seeing as the majority of the audience had never played System Shock 2. It's like if you write a book, publish it and only 50 people read it. Then, a decade later someone with a lot of money reads it and pays you to write another one. So you do, except you recycle the entire formula of the first one. It doesn't matter since not many read the first, but for the 50 people that did read it, it's not as amazing as it should be.

Agreed on both points.

It's a spiritual successor that doesn't actually succeed the original in any meaningful way. I have hope for the sequel, at least.

Well, maybe if you look at Bioshock as a way to get newcomers into the storyline so they could make Bioshock 2 as the actual sequel they wanted in the first place it's not so bad.
But I'm probably just clutching at straws here, only the time will come.

Fable 2

Just to be technical/annoying: It was watered down.
AKA: I played both Bioshock and SS2 on PC.

I'm actually playing SS2 through for a second time right now, and I feel like I'm playing Bioshock the more and more I play it. especially with the Garden area in SS2, I completely forgot about that (although it's significantly smaller than the area in Bioshock)

What sucks is: Shodan seems significantly less awesome after playing Bioshock.

All this talk of System Shock 2 makes me feel like digging through the cupboard and seeing if I can find it...

I don't get you guys, always complaining about not being able to find games.
You are posting on the internet, 600 megabytes takes half an hour.

My apologies for trying things the legal way.
plus half the nostalgia rating comes from blowing the dust off the box

I'm not a big fan of RPG games, but I love Mass Effect. It kicks ***. Stop wasting time on this thread and go play it!

Torchlight is $5 now.

Torchlight is the ****.

Also, they ran out of Mass Effect keys.

If you don't already have Torchlight, you are a moron for not getting it at 5 dollars.

Purchased Torchlight based on the recommendations in this thread. It better be good, or else Sithlord and llibja are getting banned! (Can't ban Vin since he's another admin).

Eh, it's not bad, it's a "been ages since I've played diablo so I'll play this" game.
The lack of control customisation really irks me though, even moreso does the lack of multiplayer