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Holiday console/game charts + netflix streaming on wii
2010-01-15, 4:31 PM #1
I found two interesting posts on joystiq.com today. First off is the sales charts in the US for December: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/14/december-npd-nintendo-ends-2009-on-a-high-note/

I was dismayed at the number of wii games that top the charts -- and I bought super mario wii so I helped. I'm disappointed because really, really, really my stepson and I enjoy the games on the 360 the most. And HD games kick ***. And blu ray rules. I was also surprised at how close the sales numbers were for ps3 and xbox for the new call of duty game. I guess I would have expected there to be a lot more xbox sales. Does anyone know the total installed base in the US of xbox vs ps3? Maybe ps3 caught up while I wasn't watching?

Also, it sort of makes dual-console releases a no-brainer -- it's not like there are a lot more on any one console. The case for exclusives is less clear -- companies must get nice bonuses from either sony or ms to make an exclusive game (esp. if it's a good one with a lot of hype which would be over-a-million-seller on each console).

The second link is about stupid reggie from nintendo america spouting his dumb mouth about wii netflix streaming: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/14/reggie-wii-users-dont-care-about-hd-netflix-streaming/

Seriously? I would love to have hd streaming on my wii. In fact, the more devices I can stream on, the better. I would *love* an hd version of my wii as well.
Quote:
"over 26 million consumers have bought a Wii. The consumer is saying, for them, the quality of the visual is not nearly as important as the overall entertainment."
For me, this isn't true at all. I bought the wii because I wanted to play the latest Zelda. I had skipped gamecube so it was an obvious choice to get the wii (although I was disappointed in the zelda controls, that is a different story). I didn't *care* about hd then because I didn't have an hd tv. But as soon as I got an hd tv I suddenly cared about it. Does that mean I'm going to stop buying games for the wii? Yes, except for nintendo-developed blockbusters like mario (and perhaps another zelda). Our gaming budget for the past year has been almost exclusively xbox 360. And everyone knows how much I'd love to love a console not made by MS.

Is it really that people don't care about HD, or is it that most people still don't have an HDTV?

Actually, my parents bought an hdtv and still watch normal dvds on it and think it's the best thing ever -- but regular dvds look a lot crappier to me on hdtv than they do on sdtv... Blargh.
2010-01-15, 4:46 PM #2
You know what really sucks? I've played Brawl in HD, thanks to PC emulators, and it looks incredible. They wouldn't even need to play with the textures much, it was really that good. They really missed out on that.
2010-01-15, 5:54 PM #3
I absolutely don't care about HD. I have a HDTV, an xbox 360 with very few games on it, and a Wii with heaps of games.
Hell half my favourite games are the wiiware ones, made by third party groups with small budgets.
The way I look at it is: A great game with crappy graphics is still fun, but a crappy game with great graphics is still crap.
Graphics > gameplay, every time.

Don't get me wrong, it would be good if the wii had HD, but to me it's just an added bonus, it's not something that affects my choice in purchasing or anything.
You can't judge a book by it's file size
2010-01-15, 5:58 PM #4
However, great games with great graphics triumph over all, so...
2010-01-15, 6:01 PM #5
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
However, great games with great graphics triumph over all, so...


A controller with enough physical buttons so that I don't have to waggle it to do things better suited to a button helps too.
2010-01-15, 6:17 PM #6
Originally posted by Darth:
A controller with enough physical buttons so that I don't have to waggle it to do things better suited to a button helps too.


wiimote+nunchuk actually has quite a few, plus there's gamecube or classic controllers.
2010-01-15, 6:30 PM #7
:downs:
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
wiimote+nunchuk actually has quite a few, plus there's gamecube or classic controllers.


Which only help if the games actually support them. I'm looking at you, New SMB...
2010-01-15, 7:15 PM #8
Why on earth are you looking at SMB? That game is perfect for the wiimote. Hell the game doesn't even use all the buttons on the wiimote because it doesn't need to.
You can't judge a book by it's file size
2010-01-18, 11:46 AM #9
Speaking of mario bros wii, I saw in one of the tricks videos a guy doing a triple-jump or something where the third jump, mario would jump a lot further. I tried this but can't get him to do it. Is there a trick?
2010-01-18, 11:49 AM #10
No, you just have to be running full speed during all the jumps...

On a side note, the Wii using netflix baffles me... Netflix, but no DVD playback... really nintendo?? really?
Quote Originally Posted by FastGamerr
"hurr hairy guy said my backhair looks dumb hurr hairy guy smash"
2010-01-18, 11:52 AM #11
That's why you install the Homebrew Channel and DVDX. Then you can watch DVDs using mplayer :P
2010-01-18, 11:53 AM #12
Originally posted by KOP_AoEJedi:
No, you just have to be running full speed during all the jumps...


Not completely true, the first jump doesn't have to be at full speed, I've done it from a near standing jump with only pushing across at the last minute, making sure I had the run button held down and the jump is at full height (don't know if those are required but it works for me).


Originally posted by KOP_AoEJedi:
really nintendo?? really?[/B]


Wii does a lot of online stuff but yeah, it does seem strange. What really baffles me is that the Wii can quite easily play dvd's, why on earth did they not enable it to begin with
You can't judge a book by it's file size
2010-01-18, 12:22 PM #13
Hrm, I'll try it again. -- re: dvd, maybe licensing costs?
2010-01-18, 12:23 PM #14
Oh, the other important thing is that you do the subsequent jumps as soon as you land.
You can't judge a book by it's file size
2010-01-18, 12:35 PM #15
Quote:
Wii does a lot of online stuff but yeah, it does seem strange. What really baffles me is that the Wii can quite easily play dvd's, why on earth did they not enable it to begin with


Exactly, I mean... even from day one everyone knew it could. The content (games) plays off a DVD format. The only thing the wii lacks from nintendo itself is the codecs. I guess they saved $20ish on each console cost by not having to worry about regions and codecs.
Quote Originally Posted by FastGamerr
"hurr hairy guy said my backhair looks dumb hurr hairy guy smash"
2010-01-18, 6:06 PM #16
I don't know about HD games, but HD television and movies is soooo retarded, imo. Do we realy need to see the actor's makeup-clogged pores?
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2010-01-18, 7:01 PM #17
yeah that's soooo retarded ur right
"Honey, you got real ugly."
2010-01-18, 7:59 PM #18
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
I don't know about HD games, but HD television and movies is soooo retarded, imo. Do we realy need to see the actor's makeup-clogged pores?


Yeah we should totally just forget HD and go back to old black and white silent films with quality so blurry you can only just make out what's going on. After all, who cares about seeing the detail, as long as you get the jist of what is going on?

:downswords:
2010-01-18, 8:28 PM #19
lol ur so rite.
we should also use 1 meg drives and 8 bit colour
2010-01-18, 8:38 PM #20
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
I don't know about HD games, but HD television and movies is soooo retarded, imo. Do we realy need to see the actor's makeup-clogged pores?


I would find that as a fault of the actor and/or make-up then the HD =p
You can't judge a book by it's file size
2010-01-18, 8:43 PM #21
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
I don't know about HD games, but HD television and movies is soooo retarded, imo. Do we realy need to see the actor's makeup-clogged pores?

Has your account been hijacked by a 12 year old or have you just always been like this and I didn't notice?
>>untie shoes
2010-01-19, 6:39 AM #22
What 12 years olds say things like "makeup-clogged pores"? Except maybe a twelve year old girl that has teenage friends.
You can't judge a book by it's file size
2010-01-19, 6:53 AM #23
Originally posted by Deadman:
What 12 years olds say things like "makeup-clogged pores"?


You must not know many 12 year old girls.

(In b4 "LOL OF COURSE I DON'T" pedopost)
2010-01-19, 7:13 AM #24
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
I don't know about HD games, but HD television and movies is soooo retarded, imo. Do we realy need to see the actor's makeup-clogged pores?


I used to think the same thing, but I found out that's really only with older, upscaled movies (or remastered), or low budget films. I've watched LOST on blu-ray (Seasons 1-3, NO ONE RUIN ANYTHING!) and it looks amazing. It's not the detail of the people that I notice, but the detail in the environment, the backgrounds are rarely blurry unless intended to do so.
Quote Originally Posted by FastGamerr
"hurr hairy guy said my backhair looks dumb hurr hairy guy smash"
2010-01-19, 7:51 AM #25
I'll ruin LOST for you: It's terrible.
2010-01-19, 9:12 AM #26
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
You must not know many 12 year old girls.

(In b4 "LOL OF COURSE I DON'T" pedopost)


Only a few, most aren't willing to put out.
You can't judge a book by it's file size
2010-01-19, 9:32 AM #27
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
I'll ruin LOST for you: It's terrible.


It's not bad. Predictable, but still fun to watch. It has some good eye candy as well.
Quote Originally Posted by FastGamerr
"hurr hairy guy said my backhair looks dumb hurr hairy guy smash"
2010-01-19, 9:37 AM #28
Predictable? It's random and nonsensical, it's quite clear they are making it up as they go along.
Friend of mine watches the show all the time, and goes to various forums where people try and explain the plot. There are many theories, all of which are ridiculous.
You can't judge a book by it's file size
2010-01-19, 10:06 AM #29
Originally posted by Deadman:
Predictable? It's random and nonsensical, it's quite clear they are making it up as they go along.
Friend of mine watches the show all the time, and goes to various forums where people try and explain the plot. There are many theories, all of which are ridiculous.


Well, I figured out a lot of things before they 'revealed' them in the series. Especially John Locke's dad being Sawyer's family con man
Quote Originally Posted by FastGamerr
"hurr hairy guy said my backhair looks dumb hurr hairy guy smash"
2010-01-19, 12:33 PM #30
Originally posted by KOP_AoEJedi:
I used to think the same thing, but I found out that's really only with older, upscaled movies (or remastered), or low budget films.
That may be so. I've really only seen stupid stuff in HD. Like CSI Miami. *shudder*
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2010-01-19, 12:51 PM #31
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
You know what really sucks? I've played Brawl in HD, thanks to PC emulators, and it looks incredible.
Most Wii and Gamecube games do, in fact. It's unspeakably shameful that Nintendo's beautiful artwork is perpetually hamstrung by stupid business decisions and bad game design.
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2010-01-19, 1:10 PM #32
Wait, what game is that?
2010-01-19, 1:18 PM #33
Twilight princess?

I don't want a Wii but I want a gamecube for it.
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2010-01-19, 1:24 PM #34
I guess I stopped before you get on a boat? I didn't realize there was a boat part, I don't even remember any oceans.
2010-01-19, 1:36 PM #35
It's Smash Brothers Brawl on the Pirate Ship level.
2010-01-19, 1:39 PM #36
Ah, thanks.
2010-01-19, 1:59 PM #37
PS2 games are starting to look pretty awesome when emulated on PC as well.
2010-01-19, 2:15 PM #38
Originally posted by Connection Problem:
PS2 games are starting to look pretty awesome when emulated on PC as well.


Too bad getting them to run properly is a different story...
2010-01-20, 7:00 AM #39
Originally posted by Deadman:
Only a few, most aren't willing to put out.

You're a pervert! Necrophilia is soo sick!
Sorry for the lousy German
2010-01-20, 7:11 AM #40
*hangs head in shame*
You can't judge a book by it's file size

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